Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

Tbf to M she did try to focus back on the parents instead of herself when asked the question about her experience.

But I don't think that's because she empathised with them, it's because she knows she's on dodgy ground with her story.

What I'd like someone to ask her is: I understand you spoke about your own experience to help others going through similar, could you tell us about the help you got, how it supported you and your journey back to good mental health so that people listening can see a hopeful path if they seek help?

Why won't she talk about the help she got if she wants to remove stigma and help others?

We know why.
Because she didn't get any help.

My guess is that that evening she was upset and told Harry she sometimes wishes she wasn't there. This was a passing emotion in a difficult situation and she was able to rally and go out for the evening.

This incident is now dressed as 'being suicidal' in a horrible attempt to exaggerate her distress. Dangerously ignoring the real difference between severe depression and ideation and passing heightened emotions.

But now she's stuck with the exaggerated story she told and it doesn't add up because the emotion/ thought didn't persist and she didn't get any help.

Remember it was all a story about needing to 'go somewhere' and the RF didn't arrange it.
Plus all the nonsense about going to the HR Dept.

If you think of it as a 'family business' HR is there to support the employees on behalf of the family/directors.

H&M are the equivalent of directors. Why would they not arrange these things themselves?

It just doesn't make any sense. It's completely nonsense

Tbf to M she did try to focus back on the parents instead of herself when asked the question about her experience
But I don't think that's because she empathised with them, it's because she knows she's on dodgy ground with her story

Exactly, @StrawberryWasp. Focusing on others would be an admirable thing to do, except that the whole thing falls apart because it simply isn't her usual approach

So all that's left is to think she did it to cover up her own lack of credibility, in which case it lookss even worse

On a separate note though, I'm wondering why this bit of the interview has just been released when AFAIK it hadn't previously been seen

But now she's stuck with the exaggerated story she told and it doesn't add up because the emotion/ thought didn't persist and she didn't get any help.

I'm sure she also doesn't mind the parallels with Diana.

Yes its turns my stomach when Harry constantly compares Meghan to his mother. Diana was flawed and made mistakes but the mitigating circumstances of her marriage, age etc were very different and she absolutely did genuinely care for others suffering. Watching footage of her in her charity and activism work, you can truly see her heart was in it. I am not one of those people who idolise Diana, but she had a loving, kind heart.
Wheras any contact Meghan has had with people via charities, Royal duties, public appearances etc is SO patently performative and hollow that it's awkward to watch. It's so ironic that she was an actress because actually she cannot act convincingly at all.

Diana also gave Royal life 15 years. Meghan didn't.

Diana had such a different upbringing to Meghan. Handling people comes more naturally when you're raised with noblesse oblige.

A kind heart is an added advantage.

@Rhaidimiddim There's a definite link here. She's picked on the wrong person this time.

I suppose it was inevitable in the end that she would.

@Alectoishome It’s ridiculous, isn’t it, they were/are such different people. Diana had just turned 20 when she married Charles and she’d previously worked with young children. The marriage was arranged simply because she was “suitable” and she grew into the role. She’d probably have been happier with a more ordinary life, though.

Whereas Meghan has always wanted to be in the public eye, hence her chosen career path. She could’ve been successful out of the limelight, but she wants to be in it. I don't think Harry wants to admit that he was a means to that end.

What I'd like someone to ask her is: I understand you spoke about your own experience to help others going through similar, could you tell us about the help you got, how it supported you and your journey back to good mental health so that people listening can see a hopeful path if they seek help?

Or:

'....could you tell us about the help you got, how it supported you and your journey to NYC a fortnight later where you lived it up with a ton of celebs for your weekend babyshower?

Amazing turnaround.

threatening to end her life and that of his unborn child.

This is a very fiucked up thing to say about a woman who suffered depression during pregnancy and was suicidal because of it - largely due to an avanlanche of agressively negative press coverage, on line harassement, and lets face it, thread like these.

Because this thread, among the gazillion others on Mumsnet about them, revels in any potiential pain or unhappiness these two suffer, and in the absense of that activily hope for it.

She seems quite gracious to me in the clip, clearly wanting to shift the focus to the families who have lost children to suicide due to soicail media.

PH does indeed seem uncomfortable but to my untrained eye it seemed more about the interviewer trying to go back over well covered ground rather than focus on their initiative.

This kind of reasoning seriously makes lives difficult to live.

How do you know it was a sudden departure as against a planned leaving time?

If you have the proof of that you then need proof that they left sue to her boredome and not some other reason.

Life is short to fall into these crazy arse hypothesee.

Her child was compared to chimpanzee.

They had plenty of cause. The racisim in this country raised it's ugly head and hounded the two of them.

The lack of push back in that regard from government, palace and civil institions is a shameful stain for us.

Except all those wonderful female politicians who were the only ones to show some moral courage.

Where?

This is absolutely disgraceful.

Shame on you.

Unless you had direct dealings with them at the time, are a qualified shrink and can produce evidence. In that case, I would love to read it, and no, you would not deserve shame.

@yesmen the point is that you don't have a clearer picture of it than anyone else and everyone is allowed to air their opinions.

Exactly, that was my point!

The suicidal ideation is not something I would personally question but there is only one villain in the recounting of it is the pathetic excuse of a husband that failed to help his wife whilst finger pointing the blame onto others. Archie is the victim in this having this known and his father was as useful as a chocolate teapot.

I'm sorry but I don't believe her.

@Runnerinthenight "I'm sorry but I don't believe her" is quite different from accusating someone of threatening their nearest with the murder of the unborn child and their own suicide, in order to have control.

This is what "threatening to end her life and that of his unborn child" means.

It seems incredibly difficult to defend.

I agree with @Rhaidimiddim and give over with the shame on you shtick it doesn’t wash here. I never believed a word of it either, I don’t doubt she said it to Harry, just like controlling men who threaten suicide if their wives attempt to leave them, suicide threat can be a form of control, funny how it mirrored Diana’s threat to throw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William, it’s almost as if she had read Andrew Moreton’s book Diana, her true story.

Except all those wonderful female politicians who were the only ones to show some moral courage.

Yet strangely silent now her true colours have been revealed for the world to see.

Well @BigWillyLittleTodger , I do find those statements, expressed in that way, shameful.

You don't.

We will not agree.

Well no actually.

It is becuase she is no loinger a resident of our country.

It would be a bit bloody weird for them to keep on at it now that she has left.