Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

I don't understand how people who claim to disapprove of royalty, support Harry. He is royal, but does no official royal work, and just uses his title for self promotion and money making. Surely that's worse? I don't get it.

They disapprove of the institution not the individuals

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So an individual, using his royal titles and status and privilege for personal gain, is ok?

I think that in the beginning people hoped that H&M would tear down the institution with an expose.

However they seemed to forget that H&M kicked and screamed to have half in half out of said institution, then have retained and insist on using their royal titles and status as well as inflicting the horrors of this heirarchy on their children.

Hypocritcal and disingenous.

Its all about the $$$$$$.

He was trying to make a dig. It’s obvious that an heir has to weigh up all sorts of things before marrying someone who will be Queen (or King). It was spite that made him say that. I think people saw it for the dig it was.

I think you're right, @Norahh . Aside from the fact that they both, shall we say, economical with the truth, it's clear that their greedy and dishonest behaviour has been less about challenging an institution and more about lining pockets.
They carry on in a very royal way!

The British public
The British press
The British media
The British royal family
The British courts
The British police
The British security services
The British army
The British civil service
The British education system
The British political system
The British adherence to freedom of speech
TK Maxx

...the US First Amendment...

Anyway. It does make me wonder if this is perhaps the start of a trial separation. All ventures have failed, their love story has faded and their stars are tarnished with filth they put out themselves. They’re probably better off breaking up this folie a deux ans trying to put together so semblence of a good life apart.

NRTFT so apologies.

But H&M are like salt and pepper - "they move together".

And "destined to be together" unlike others in the RF whose wives merely "fit the mould" 🤦‍♀️

Someone's disrupted the cruet set.

Possible.
It's also possible that being apart will give them both some breathing space, esp him, if he's been as controlled as it looks.

Do please share the video and evidence you have seen of him kicking and screaming......

@Spectre8 why does it need to be video evidence? The text from his novel makes it clear that he had tantrums- if you can’t believe the evidence of his own words then what can you believe?

It’s a figure of speech 😊

He demeans the matron sexually. Describing her (in his eyes, lack of) hotness, cruelly talking about her physical appearance, sad eyes, greasy hair, curved back. And you think that's ok? He's a prince. He may have been a child, but he had disproportionate power even then (as all the children of the powerful do over lowly staff); and he had the power and adult brain not to write such filthy trash now. But write it he did.

I have read Spare. AN Wilson described it as akin to Mein Kampf, beautifully written (thanks to the ghost writer, JR Moehringer), but that he put it down with utter disgust. I can see what he means.

Harry did openly express his disappointment that the half in and half out wasn’t facilitated by his family. At a speech he made in February 2020 for example:

”What I want to make clear is we’re not walking away, and we certainly aren’t walking away from you. Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the commonwealth, and my military associations, but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn’t possible”.

I wonder, if he feels that this matron was insufficiently kind to him in the wake of his mother's death, what came first? The horrible way he describes her after decades makes me wonder if he had already been mocking and cruel and she avoided him as much as possible.

(My DH actually cried a bit when he described his house matrons tragic death, after even more decades, but he isn't an arse)

I wonder why they wanted to stay half in when his family was just so horrible to them both. They were so mean they couldn’t wait to get on their ‘freedom’ flight. She was almost driven to well we all know what (allegedly) but had the Queen said yes they’d be all fine and dandy. Throw in Windsor Castle and everything would have been perfect.

I can’t see how their fans never think about this.

I think that M wanted to wear the tiaras and other jewels that money can’t buy and that they wanted to meet VIPs at state dinners etc so that they had future connections and anecdotes for their commercial projects.

Firstly, that is so disrespectful to his grandmother. After devoting her life to the monarchy, she has the right to decide what can work and what can't. Secondly, it is absurd to say you want to be in public service but not be publicly funded. If you are earning money from private sources but still fulfilling public roles you may very well be compromised by individuals and organisations paying you who may want to take advantage of your royal role. I can't fathom H's level of arrogance to think he was entitled to retain his position but on his terms. He has no constitutional role so it's down to the monarch to decide if she wants him to carry out public roles and on what basis.

Exactly. All the glitzy bits of being Royal, skip the opening recycling centres and trade of their connections.

HMQ, Charles and William saw through that plan

I think that M&H skipping Trump’s visit and using maternity leave as an excuse was a clear indication that half in / half out couldn’t work. As a royal they have to be photographed with who they are told to and personal beliefs can’t be a barrier to their diplomatic role.

And yet it didn't stop Charles snubbing the banquet held for the Chinese diplomatic contingent, or referring to the regime as "appalling old waxworks"

In fairness he'd probably got a point about the regime, and since this was from his private journal it should never have been published at all, but in his position it really didn't look good