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Harry’s anxiety in NY

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Makingwaves2 · 23/09/2024 20:13

What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

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BustingBaoBun · 28/09/2024 12:22

BunnyLake · 28/09/2024 12:21

You’re only as good as your worst self. Those stories don’t need other nicer things to balance them out. They’re stand alone horrible.

In your opinion.

I read it all in context

jeffgoldblum · 28/09/2024 12:27

What context makes up for the cream on the penis story?

Hughs · 28/09/2024 12:29

Good for him to bite back against an inherently unjust system.

Hardly biting back against the system when he insists on using his titles and being addressed as Sir by the plebs. Not to mention doing his white saviour act in Nigeria and Colombia 🤮

Pretty fucking toothless bite, I'd say.

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:31

Mylovelygreendress · 28/09/2024 12:20

“I had a lot more respect for him after reading it.”

What about his description of his school matron ? His first sexual encounter? The suggestion that only he married for love ? @yesmen

Well, it is a while since I read it but, the young child whose mother had come to a violent end, found himself alone and broken hearted in bording school. The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later.

His first sexual encounter was cringe and written as such. For someone else it might be along the lines of "and then my dad walked in."

He did not say that only he married for love. He acknowledged that he had much more freedom in choice of life partner than the monarch or monarch in waiting. They have to factor many things besides love - not a hard task to imagine that.

Seems like you should read the book, it is very reasonable.

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:34

Hughs · 28/09/2024 12:29

Good for him to bite back against an inherently unjust system.

Hardly biting back against the system when he insists on using his titles and being addressed as Sir by the plebs. Not to mention doing his white saviour act in Nigeria and Colombia 🤮

Pretty fucking toothless bite, I'd say.

But the whole point of the monarchy is that it is bloodline.

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

If you accpet the monarchy you must accept that.

Otherwise we would be in the (wonderful) position of being able to choose the bastards.

BunnyLake · 28/09/2024 12:36

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:31

Well, it is a while since I read it but, the young child whose mother had come to a violent end, found himself alone and broken hearted in bording school. The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later.

His first sexual encounter was cringe and written as such. For someone else it might be along the lines of "and then my dad walked in."

He did not say that only he married for love. He acknowledged that he had much more freedom in choice of life partner than the monarch or monarch in waiting. They have to factor many things besides love - not a hard task to imagine that.

Seems like you should read the book, it is very reasonable.

We should all factor in many things other than love. Harry should have as well.

BunnyLake · 28/09/2024 12:38

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:34

But the whole point of the monarchy is that it is bloodline.

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

If you accpet the monarchy you must accept that.

Otherwise we would be in the (wonderful) position of being able to choose the bastards.

Of course you can. It’s not actually imprinted in your DNA you know. It’s just a title and titles can, and have, been removed.

Hughs · 28/09/2024 12:38

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

He doesn't have to use his title.

He doesn't have to insist that people call him Sir.

He didn't have to accept titles for his children.

He doesn't have to do pretend royal tours.

He is absolutely not biting back against an unfair system, he has no problem with the unfairness of Archie being a prince and Archie's pals not.

Mylovelygreendress · 28/09/2024 12:38

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:31

Well, it is a while since I read it but, the young child whose mother had come to a violent end, found himself alone and broken hearted in bording school. The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later.

His first sexual encounter was cringe and written as such. For someone else it might be along the lines of "and then my dad walked in."

He did not say that only he married for love. He acknowledged that he had much more freedom in choice of life partner than the monarch or monarch in waiting. They have to factor many things besides love - not a hard task to imagine that.

Seems like you should read the book, it is very reasonable.

Oh I have read it ! It was reduced in a charity shop .
It was terrible what happened to Diana but she was also William’s mother and he is only a couple of years older yet so many people think only Harry has suffered .
He is however the only one who has monetised her death .

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:38

jeffgoldblum · 28/09/2024 12:27

What context makes up for the cream on the penis story?

Making headlines. Selling books.

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:40

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:31

Well, it is a while since I read it but, the young child whose mother had come to a violent end, found himself alone and broken hearted in bording school. The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later.

His first sexual encounter was cringe and written as such. For someone else it might be along the lines of "and then my dad walked in."

He did not say that only he married for love. He acknowledged that he had much more freedom in choice of life partner than the monarch or monarch in waiting. They have to factor many things besides love - not a hard task to imagine that.

Seems like you should read the book, it is very reasonable.

I have read it, it strikes me as unreasonable.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2024 12:42

His ego is too inflated and fragile to look closely at himself and see the conflict within his own words and actions

Very probably, @Norahh, but Harry's spoken openly about having therapy and one of its purposes is to encourage people to do exactly that

Admittedly this depends on the patient being receptive (and not walking out if they dislike what's said) but I sometimes wonder who these people have been and what their actual qualifications are

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:42

BunnyLake · 28/09/2024 12:36

We should all factor in many things other than love. Harry should have as well.

Oh I agree.

But knowing that your wife will also be Head of State puts a layer over things no? You wouldn't want to put someone in that position without being as sure as you can be that they could cope and would be able for it.

It is certainly an extra layer.

Basically, he was saying that there would be demands and pressures on Catherine that Meghan would never have.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2024 12:46

The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later

Allegedly, @yesmen

And even if it was true, what reason could there be - in adulthood, when most would have learned better - to focus cruelly on her disability rather than the perceived behaviour?

Uricon2 · 28/09/2024 12:47

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:34

But the whole point of the monarchy is that it is bloodline.

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

If you accpet the monarchy you must accept that.

Otherwise we would be in the (wonderful) position of being able to choose the bastards.

He could stop using it completely. He could have refused titles for his kids, as Anne did when her mother was reigning monarch.

Instead the "call me Harry" thing seemed to last about 10 minutes and he was very keen that Archie and Lili should be Prince and Princess.

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:49

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2024 12:46

The matron had a choice - be kind or be cold hearted and border on cruel. She chose the later

Allegedly, @yesmen

And even if it was true, what reason could there be - in adulthood, when most would have learned better - to focus cruelly on her disability rather than the perceived behaviour?

It may well be me, but I did not take it as cruel or demeaning.

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:51

Uricon2 · 28/09/2024 12:47

He could stop using it completely. He could have refused titles for his kids, as Anne did when her mother was reigning monarch.

Instead the "call me Harry" thing seemed to last about 10 minutes and he was very keen that Archie and Lili should be Prince and Princess.

But why?

He is of royal blood. He is actually a prince.

He never said he wanted to leave the royal family. He did say he wanted to live independently.

And he does.

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:51

Worse, for me, was invading the privacy of his loved ones.

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:53

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:51

But why?

He is of royal blood. He is actually a prince.

He never said he wanted to leave the royal family. He did say he wanted to live independently.

And he does.

Absolutely! He and Meghan are full on Monarchists and Royalists. I think their fans are full on royalists, those who don't care if people are working royals or not, just that they have royal titles.

Baital · 28/09/2024 12:54

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:34

But the whole point of the monarchy is that it is bloodline.

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

If you accpet the monarchy you must accept that.

Otherwise we would be in the (wonderful) position of being able to choose the bastards.

He can choose not to use his title. Edward and Sophie's children are technically Prince/ Princess.

They don't use those titles, by choice.

Harry could do the same, but he chooses not to. Plus, of course, the monogramed doormat 😂I think the titles are very important to him (and Meghan).

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:55

Baital · 28/09/2024 12:54

He can choose not to use his title. Edward and Sophie's children are technically Prince/ Princess.

They don't use those titles, by choice.

Harry could do the same, but he chooses not to. Plus, of course, the monogramed doormat 😂I think the titles are very important to him (and Meghan).

Where would they be without royal titles?
They need them for the headlines, the clicks and the $$$$$$.

Hughs · 28/09/2024 12:56

*But why?

He is of royal blood. He is actually a prince.

He never said he wanted to leave the royal family. He did say he wanted to live independently.

And he does.*

People are challenging the earlier claim that Harry is "biting back" against an unfair system.

He really isn't.

IsoldeWagner · 28/09/2024 12:57

They're "biting". Not "biting back".
They're biting because it seemed to be a profitable way to use their titles. Quite the career they've forged.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 28/09/2024 12:58

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:34

But the whole point of the monarchy is that it is bloodline.

He cannot 'hand back' his title of prince. He is born that.

If you accpet the monarchy you must accept that.

Otherwise we would be in the (wonderful) position of being able to choose the bastards.

I seem to remember a king abdicating, not that long ago to marry 'the woman he loved' and giving up his titles. Harry could if he wanted to, he doesn't want to. And he was kicking up a fuss about his kids not having royal titles when they were just too many generations below the monarch (the then Queen) now they can have titles and he wants them. He wants the best of both worlds instead of sticking to his supposed principles. He wants to be treated as a royal prince without any of the responsibilities or work involved. And resorts to slagging off his family to make a buck, one of natures true gentlemen.

Baital · 28/09/2024 12:58

yesmen · 28/09/2024 12:51

But why?

He is of royal blood. He is actually a prince.

He never said he wanted to leave the royal family. He did say he wanted to live independently.

And he does.

You do know 'royal blood' is just ordinary blood, don't you? It isn't physically different from non-royal blood...

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