Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

It was more a nibble than a bite because he wanted to retain all the perks of the “ unjust system” - titles , security , money from Pa etc

I think in this day and age inherited estates aren't owned by the current incumbent, but are in a trust. Otherwise Inheritance Tax would break them up in a few generations.

Traditionally the person with the title (eldest son of the previous incumbent) heads up the management, but not always.

Perhaps then Harry should give up his titles, the titles he was so desperate to secure for his children and his place in the line of succession as a real protest against this "inherently unjust system".

He won't though.

Well, that's where his complaints fall apart, isn't it?

He doesn't want to be in second place behind his older brother - fair enough.

But he does want to be ahead of everyone else! He isn't calling out the system of primogeniture and inherited privilege, only moaning about his place in it.

Just being moany and petulant when you're a 40 year old man, isn't great.
He needs to have a look at Caroline Kennedy, for example. Her father murdered in the most brutal and public way. A nation plunged into grief. Then her uncle, similarly. Then her only sibling and his wife killed in an air accident.
Perhaps he needs to consider an intelligent, wise and mature approach, because he's certainly got the time and money to facilitate it.
I doubt that he'd have the life of service that Caroline Kennedy has forged, but it may ameliorate his victim mentality.

Quite. He's fairly determined to maintain his privilege, use it and monetise it.

He is currently 5/6th most senior in the unjust system, and the UK has a population of about 67 million 😂 and all he can see is that he was second to William 🤔

I know. It's utterly absurd.

Impression I have as well.

It's not that a hierarchy exists it's that he not at the top.

He has more money and more opportunities than any one in my social circle and yet still moans how hard done to he is.

Yes downside exits - but he could have side stepped much of the publicity and media interest in last few years instead has courted it and at same time moaned about it.

His ego is too inflated and fragile to look closely at himself and see the conflict within his own words and actions.

He kicked and screamed for half in half out of the hideous racist institution.

When he didnt get what he wanted he kicked and screamed some more.

But he held on tighly to the trappings of the hideous racist institution (money, titles) so that he could continue to float about cloaked as a royal - maintain the superiority and heirachy that he so despises in his new life in order to weaponise and monetise. He has even inflicted the branding of the hideous racist royal family on his young children.

He has zero principles.

But, @SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun - he loves being in the media, doesn't he? He seeks out the publicity and the clicks. He wants to be a celebrity, but clearly not with the downsides.

Harry said he thinks his father and William are trapped. So why would he want the "big inheritance", which is a life limiting one in his eyes?

I read somewhere that Harry's real envy was of friends whose parents made their money in industry/business, who had vastly more money to throw around than his "paltry" allowance and inheritance. Hence his reputation as a cheapskate, his bleating about having to buy his clothes from the TK Maxx "sale" and selling out his family for cash rather than using what he has in the bank.

When he has had so much and access to so much without the burdens of duty, and has come into contact with enough ordinary people to be able to appreciate his immensely fortunate position in the world, what exactly has he got to complain about?

He wants to be a celebrity, but clearly not with the downsides.

Exactly - without the hard work often of years behind the scenes or the dealing with bad or just wrong stuff in press that nearly all have to deal with.

I suspect having really good PR staff early on in life meant it's come as a bit of a shock.

He addressed all of these points in his book.

It seems like his atttitude to being the 'spare" was as a team player. He would take the hits, be a cover and so on. It became a probelm when his wife was targeted. And then it became a huge problem when the family would not help him with that problem.

The Royal men are bloody awful to their women. PoW, the Queen, Fergie - all were ripped apart by the media without any help at all from the institution. I really look down on them for that,

It seems that a lot of the PH 'wildness' was grief mangement, and something I recognize from my own behaviour after the death of my father when I was young. The back up in my family was not great either, around that issue.

But, he also says that most of what was written about him, and the descriptions of him as a person were not accurate. That is why he wrote the book - to get his own version of him out there.

Even though his version contained lies and demeaning comments ( school matron ) ?

What image of himself did he achieve to get out there when he wrote spare?

Do you think it was more positive?

His own "version" isn't better. He doesn't come across well. Nor from Oprah, Netflix or any other interviews.

To you.

To me on the other hand...

Like most things, parts were good and others not so muc.

As I said, I found him to be excellent in his descriptions of childhood grief and the ongoing consequences of parental loss at a young age.

I thought his insights into trauma for armed forces personel was compassionate and it certainly gave me a different perspective.

It was interesting to peep behind the curtain of being raised in a royal family, something that is incredibly rare.

I had a lot more respect for him after reading it.

Good question (not aimed at me I know) but I don’t think even his most ardent fans can believe he came out of that book as a better version as his pre-book self. Todger cream (associated with ‘mummy’), the story of him flying overhead of his father’s car and what he could do to him, his kill count, the appalling treatment of his school matron (retold without an ounce of shame now he’s an adult), etc and that’s just what I’ve gleaned from not even reading the book. I wouldn’t be impressed by those stories from my own partner never mind a privileged prince.

His point about the matron was that his mother had just died, and this woman did not offer a very young child one ounce of comfort.

Re lies - how could we possibly know?

I took it a face value and read it at face value.

But I am not a cynical person.

I think it's ridiculous to be critical of a book when you haven't even read it! What you are talking about here is probably 5% of the book, if that.
Like any autobiography, some parts are very boring, some parts are fascinating, and some are just padding. But to pick out the bits that have been sensationalized in the media and then make a judgment without even reading the whole book is a bit much

“I had a lot more respect for him after reading it.”

What about his description of his school matron ? His first sexual encounter? The suggestion that only he married for love ? @yesmen

You’re only as good as your worst self. Those stories don’t need other nicer things to balance them out. They’re stand alone horrible.

You really should not offer opinion on a book you have not read.

You could offer opinion along the lines of "I don't want to read it becuase ..."