Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

they said that the British people were racist towards her. I don't believe that for a moment, there was enormous good will towards them when they announced their engagement,

Yes. I was pleased for Harry. I (and most of my friends) enjoyed watching the wedding. I was mildly looking forward to following them as working royals and seeing Meghan's fashion choices. First niggle for me was that she didn't choose a British fashion house for her wedding dress (although the actual designer was British) but I continued to defend them long after many people were criticising.

That's what I mean H&M had far more goodwill on their wedding day than C&C had.

They didn't want to build on it and threw it away they didn't know a good thing when they had it.

C&C had to really work to get Camilla completely accepted.

A bit like Sophie and Ed, the public was completely against them at one point but keeping their noses clean and doing the job. They have worked to get support.

Looking to the future, I think the RF PR machine would work and build Harry's reputation if he kept his head down and did the job.

But not a chance for Meghan.
I'm horrified at that video clip of Meghan and those Mothers. That poor woman was opening her soul to the world and Meghan just wasn't the least bit interested. Didn't even pretend to be interested. Where were her Acting Skills?

Where were her Acting Skills?

They were focused on the money shot output - ie still photos of her on the floor with little babies - thats all she was there to accomplish.

Except they have based their brand on being True Love and joined at the hip, unlike all Harry's family who married for duty...

You would think that Meghan would be there in the audience to support Harry. I mean look at how many tedious things he has had to do to support her. It's a mystery.

Says you, I haven't seem them come out and explicitly say thats their branding or anything they have done makes it clear that's what it is.

oh come off it @Spectre8 there we’re entire segments of the Netflix doc in which Harry said they married for love, unlike his family. And she said they were like salt and pepper they love together. In that phase of PR the entire messaging was about their grand love story and how different it was to the rest of his family. Which is, of course, total tripe.

What am over analysis of him sorting himself and clicking his knuckles. Human aren't allowed to feel anxious when speaking to a big crowd anymore FFS.

Bloody hell, Harry is really scraping the barrel with his fake haunted house appearance on a US chat show.

From an early morning slot at the UN to a late night ridiculous skit, so much for him moving to more of a statesman type role.

It goes from bad to worse.

That was such a wicked thing that Harry said on the NF series, inferring that his brother fell into the trap of marrying someone who fit the mold as apposed to someone who you destined to be with. That it was a decion he made with his head rather than his heart, it was a sense of duty. To say that about your brothers wife, whom he has three children with who will grow up to read/hear that he said that one day. Its despicable.
And its a cruel kind of destiny for Harry and his children, if they were destined to be saddled with Meghan, she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever other than her looks, and time erodes good looks - then there will no shine on the empty husk that she is.

Children benefit from parents who work as a team and provide a calm and stable environment.

A volatile household not so much. Never mind the greatest love story of all time.

He's correct in that his dad married out of duty and not love, clear as day he's always loved Camilla rather than manipulative Diana. Ah if only he followed his heart and married for love we wouldn't have to tolerate Harry's whiny woe is me crap (or William but not a fan of him either).

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That was such a wicked thing that Harry said on the NF series, inferring that his brother fell into the trap of marrying someone who fit the mold as apposed to someone who you destined to be with. That it was a decion he made with his head rather than his heart, it was a sense of duty. To say that about your brothers wife, whom he has three children with who will grow up to read/hear that he said that one day. Its despicable.

It was despicable. Add it to the crafty shade thrown on Catherine by Meghan (making HER cry, faux sympathy that she was called 'Waity Katie', the wide-eyed assertion that 'Kate is a good person', sneakily implying that she isn't but I am!) on top of the trumped-up racism charge. And Harry was really close to Catherine once - so it's a terrible betrayal by him - more so than by Meghan, who was never going to like her, was she?

This is why I see no way back for Harry with William, even if Charles succumbs.

Yes that's true.
Diana may have gone on to become a manipulative woman with the press etc, but she hardly manipulated her way into marrying a prince as Meghan did. Diana was so young and naive, I believe she genuinely went into the marriage thinking it would be happy ever after. Wheras Charles was totally cyncial. It's very sad.
Harry's constant drawing of parallels between his mother and his wife did make me feel really sorry for him, he's a very messed up person. He so badly seems to need to try and see his mother in those he loves. I noticed hes doing something similar about his daughter now, saying shes 100% Spencer etc.
But in reality there are no parralels between Diana and Meghan's lives.

No there isn't, but that wasn't what I was saying. I was saying his comment ironically relates more to his mother than the people he was trying to shade.

Like, just from one article about them (In The Cut)

“One of the first things my husband saw when we walked around the house was those two palm trees,” she coos. “See how they’re connected at the bottom? He goes, ‘My love, it’s us.’

“In one of those lessons, Meghan remembered something she’d learned at a young age from a friend’s mom: Salt and pepper are always passed together. “She said, ‘You never move one without the other.’ That’s me and Harry. We’re like salt and pepper. We always move together.”

Harry and Megan would never have been one of our biggest assets on the world stage.

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Harry and Megan would never have been one of our biggest assets on the world stage.

To my mind, they could have been - if they were completely different people. The people that they actually are, rather than the people their fans imagine them to be, are not assets at all. Not even to their own endeavours.

They both struggled with not being the heir and his wife imo.

They could have carved a fun life like Zara and Mike or undertaken serious work like Edward and Sophie but pushing to be the equals of William and Catherine led them to inevitable pushback and disappointment. Harry should have known this and explained to Meghan that while William is also Charles’ son, they aren’t equals because of aristocratic conventions like primogeniture and that if Harry had been first born and female then male preference primogeniture for people that age would have meant the same.

This

Normal, adult women do not talk like this.

Ooh...that's made me feel very queasy...

The horror, the horror!

It was the rehearsal and that’s all. She lied and was caught out again

I just wonder how this is all going to pan out in say 5 or 10 years time.

They got married in 2018 and 6 years down the line it all seems rather a mess.

It appears that Meghan was never suited to the UK and being part of the royal family. Now it seems that Harry isn't perhaps suited to LA and the celebrity lifestyle that Meghan craves and is possibly missing the UK, his family and old friends.

Meghan having a life long ambition to be rich and famous is one thing. But Harry was/is rich and famous and doesn't have the same ambition. Being the grandson of the late Queen, the son of the King and the brother of the future King he already had the platform of being famous. Mixing with A list celebrities presumably doesn't hold the same appeal to him as he has had opportunities aplenty all his life.

He may not have liked some of the restrictions of being in the royal fold, but it must have been far easier doing some relatively low key appearances, the occasional overseas visit, smiling in the right places, giving a few chosen words that have been written for him and picking up several million a year guaranteed for life for doing so. All accompanied with grace and favour luxury accommodation, security and staff.