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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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LolleePop · 02/10/2024 07:44

There's nothing to read in to Harry doing these visits alone. He looks fine, happy in pictures.
They're not preparing to split up or separate. Meghan's fine, she never was suicidal (it was a lie to generate sympathy) and she won't be suicidal now. Sure, she'll be seeking PR damage control advice, but she's not going to get cancelled. Harry's never going to leave her, never ever in a million years will he, because he's emotionally dependant upon her. And Meghan will come back, smiling brightly and forging ahead with her career agenda. We've seen her lay low before, this isn't a new thing.
This will all blow over and Meghan will move on.
It's not the catastrophic ending of Meghan that some people are thinking it is. Not by a long shot. She's made of Teflon.

Needanewname42 · 02/10/2024 07:46

Can you imagine how she's reacting to the headlines though?

She must be livid.

SidekickSylvia · 02/10/2024 07:46

She might be angry, rather than upset. So Harry staying out of the way is probably self preservation.

MrsFinkelstein · 02/10/2024 07:49

@Twistybranch I really do hope Meghan has plenty of support around her. Being hit with those allegations must have been devastating. I have very little respect for her and Harry's behaviour towards both their families, and do feel she is someone who let power go to their head and did treat staff badly. But reading about yourself in those terms must be awful. Hopefully now she is reconsidering her attitude and behaviour.

I am surprised Harry didn't say 1 word at all in support of his wife (& still isn't) at any of his moments on stage with a mic. Even 1 sentence. Just nothing. I'd be devastated if my husband didn't publicly support me if he had the platform to do so.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 07:59

I’m not surprised they have basically said nothing. It’s the royals strategy and they have seen it work well for them in the face of Harry and Megan’s allegations . So staying quiet and not commenting is often the best policy. All the staff saying something nice was stupid pr.

i would imagine Megan is very upset by it though, I also suspect there is an element of truth in it I’m afraid.

they both need to rehabilitate their images. Harry seems to be cracking on. Head down, doing charitable work, limited focus on himself or fanfare. Megan isn’t.

Vespanest · 02/10/2024 08:05

This is Harry the hypocrite, when Meghan was receiving critism and bad headlines the palace was deemed complicit for silence and yet Meghan is being dragged and not only is Harry quiet, he's left her to it. Where is Harry the dragon slayer who always speaks up for his wife and will engage and fight with any media who dare to print disparaging comments.

Twistybranch · 02/10/2024 08:10

MrsFinkelstein · 02/10/2024 07:49

@Twistybranch I really do hope Meghan has plenty of support around her. Being hit with those allegations must have been devastating. I have very little respect for her and Harry's behaviour towards both their families, and do feel she is someone who let power go to their head and did treat staff badly. But reading about yourself in those terms must be awful. Hopefully now she is reconsidering her attitude and behaviour.

I am surprised Harry didn't say 1 word at all in support of his wife (& still isn't) at any of his moments on stage with a mic. Even 1 sentence. Just nothing. I'd be devastated if my husband didn't publicly support me if he had the platform to do so.

Exactly, he made a big press release when they were engaged calling out the press ( the press were nothing but fawning over her)

Then he left the UK on his freedom flight to escape the press after the 2018/2019 stories on her - even though these are very mild compared to what has been written about her in recent years

Yet he says nothing at all, does nothing at all about the worst headlines she’s faced. He does nothing????

Didn't they say, the worst thing you can say is nothing at all? Hmmmm

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/10/2024 08:10

After the Oprah interview, they absolutely had the world’s attention. It was headline news and discussed by the great, good and everyone else.
However, it really was just another form of gossip fodder. In the end, how they present themselves has fallen out of favour.
The brands, podcast, jam, whatever it’s an endless cycle of nothing. They do not deliver on anything and in 2024 people expect.
Like it or not, even if the RF is not as popular as it once was, it’s an age-old institution. I don’t think KC has handled any of it well, but he’s not well at the moment.
W and C are feeling the pressure as life would have been technically easier if H and M were around to share the workload.
I think W has handled it very well in public. He definitely has a warmth about him that people take to.
If you want to be a commercial entity you have to deliver something people want to buy or buy into.
H and M - they didn’t think any of this through, did they?

Citrusandginger · 02/10/2024 08:14

It does like like Harry might possibly be being supported by the RF press team again.

This piece from Hilary Rose might be wishful thinking and I'm sure she will be back to her ascerbic self soon, but it's a departure from her usual H&M articles.

He showed up and did not whinge. Is the real Harry back at last?

www.thetimes.com/article/74e8bab0-55ee-41f5-a9d0-7e799b176c9b?shareToken=e201203d99f0a4060b5ae42118016cae

Hiji · 02/10/2024 08:31

Vespanest · 02/10/2024 08:05

This is Harry the hypocrite, when Meghan was receiving critism and bad headlines the palace was deemed complicit for silence and yet Meghan is being dragged and not only is Harry quiet, he's left her to it. Where is Harry the dragon slayer who always speaks up for his wife and will engage and fight with any media who dare to print disparaging comments.

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I agree with still .... is he still throwing mud at the UK press and BRF blaming them for unfair opinion and coverage of his wifes behaviour......now its the US press writing 'unfairly' about his wifes behaviour - is he going to tackle them?

Problemis it isnt the US tabloids - its The Hollywood Reporter - with 12 staff on record and the editor doubling down with his follow up interview with Access Hollywood.

Seems PH is now conveniently doing it the RF way of no comment etc whilst MM herself is doing it her way coming out with an ill advised counter story which took two weeks to deliver as she coerced and cajoled staff and wrote up drivell herself (watered the seeds to nurture the team?).

I suspect PH is the 'current Sr employee' who spoke out and is also the man others are referring to when they said she 'made a grown man cry'

Needanewname42 · 02/10/2024 08:35

@Citrusandginger
Yes you could be right.

There has to be some truth in the allegations. You don't get allegations from two places like that.
Nasty people are nasty everywhere.

@Hiji if you've got that right, he must be ready to walk. He can't seriously live like that.

I do hope he is able to build bridges and get the support he needs.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 08:36

Citrusandginger · 02/10/2024 08:14

It does like like Harry might possibly be being supported by the RF press team again.

This piece from Hilary Rose might be wishful thinking and I'm sure she will be back to her ascerbic self soon, but it's a departure from her usual H&M articles.

He showed up and did not whinge. Is the real Harry back at last?

www.thetimes.com/article/74e8bab0-55ee-41f5-a9d0-7e799b176c9b?shareToken=e201203d99f0a4060b5ae42118016cae

That’s interesting and what I commented earlier coincidentally, so the departure from the norm is obvious.

I doubt he’s being supported by the palace, Harry has excellent advisors, simply they didn’t listen. But if we remember back a few weeks ago where it was rumoured he wanted to spend more time in the uk, doing royal duties, and he was advised to just keep his head down and crack on with the job, I think that’s what hes doing.

its the same for the African trip he’s currently on. There is none of the normal hoopla, he’s just getting on with it. Normally there is huge publicity and it’s all about Megan, let’s face it, a platform for her, but this is a whole different animal. At its core it is more royal, as it is how the royals behave, they never make it about them,

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 08:41

Citrusandginger · 02/10/2024 08:14

It does like like Harry might possibly be being supported by the RF press team again.

This piece from Hilary Rose might be wishful thinking and I'm sure she will be back to her ascerbic self soon, but it's a departure from her usual H&M articles.

He showed up and did not whinge. Is the real Harry back at last?

www.thetimes.com/article/74e8bab0-55ee-41f5-a9d0-7e799b176c9b?shareToken=e201203d99f0a4060b5ae42118016cae

The "real" Harry she is talking about was a construct of palace PR. Harry showed us who he is in Spare, an entitled, arrogant, victim in his own mind.

If he is finally listening to a PR person then great for him, but he is seemingly happy to throw his wife under a bus in the process. Which isn't surprising, the money he has made since leaving the UK has come by throwing his family under the bus after all, it's what he does.

Meghan is obviously a difficult person to work for, but Harry let her behave like that. She invisible found life in the family extremely difficult on top of pregnancy hormones, but Harry didn't lift a finger to help her. Now chickens are coming home to roost and one again her useless husband is no where to be seen.

Makingwaves2 · 02/10/2024 08:43

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 08:41

The "real" Harry she is talking about was a construct of palace PR. Harry showed us who he is in Spare, an entitled, arrogant, victim in his own mind.

If he is finally listening to a PR person then great for him, but he is seemingly happy to throw his wife under a bus in the process. Which isn't surprising, the money he has made since leaving the UK has come by throwing his family under the bus after all, it's what he does.

Meghan is obviously a difficult person to work for, but Harry let her behave like that. She invisible found life in the family extremely difficult on top of pregnancy hormones, but Harry didn't lift a finger to help her. Now chickens are coming home to roost and one again her useless husband is no where to be seen.

Eh? He left his country and all his friends to move to the US for her. I think that’s quite a lot.

forevernumb · 02/10/2024 08:46

Normal reporting of Prince Harry now without the distraction that Meghan has become. Out and about, normal photos taken yet still the same old babble from him about how people need to listen. He still can't stop his preaching.

SqueakyDinosaur · 02/10/2024 08:49

@PeggyMitchellsCameo, your point about them not thinking things through reminds me of a bit towards the end of Tina Brown's Palace Papers about one of the last times she saw Diana, and her post-RF plans. She comments that they were realistic and practical - a succession of 2-3 year projects to raise the profile of, and money for, the issues she cared about. TB says how much more developed and thought through they were than H&M's.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 08:50

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 08:41

The "real" Harry she is talking about was a construct of palace PR. Harry showed us who he is in Spare, an entitled, arrogant, victim in his own mind.

If he is finally listening to a PR person then great for him, but he is seemingly happy to throw his wife under a bus in the process. Which isn't surprising, the money he has made since leaving the UK has come by throwing his family under the bus after all, it's what he does.

Meghan is obviously a difficult person to work for, but Harry let her behave like that. She invisible found life in the family extremely difficult on top of pregnancy hormones, but Harry didn't lift a finger to help her. Now chickens are coming home to roost and one again her useless husband is no where to be seen.

What are you on about. He “let “ her. This isn’t the 1950s. No one’s husband lets them do anything. Or shouldn’t. And he did a huge amount to help her. He left for her.

Noseyoldcow · 02/10/2024 08:55

"I suspect PH is the 'current Sr employee' who spoke out and is also the man others are referring to when they said she 'made a grown man cry'

"He showed up and did not whinge. Is the real Harry back at last?"

Who knows? I suspect though, that the real Harry IS a whinger. Blige me, his autobiography was just an extended whinge, wasn't it? Sausages anyone?

As to the state of his marriage and whether Meghan bullies him, again who really knows? Even in the event of a divorce you'd have "his truth" and "her truth", neither of which would align with the genuine truth.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 08:55

I do wonder if we will see a return to the whole mega pr activities with Megan front and foremost, or if this is how it will be now, Harry quietly getting on with it solo.

megan is coming back she’s obviously letting the furore die down, and working out her strategy , and she will only do what benefits her. Not realising getting your head down and getting on with it, brings huge benefit. Look at the positive headlines Harry is getting. She’s going to come back with a bang. She’s just working out how.

Makingwaves2 · 02/10/2024 08:56

forevernumb · 02/10/2024 08:46

Normal reporting of Prince Harry now without the distraction that Meghan has become. Out and about, normal photos taken yet still the same old babble from him about how people need to listen. He still can't stop his preaching.

The irony is he is the one who needs to listen.

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 08:57

Makingwaves2 · 02/10/2024 08:43

Eh? He left his country and all his friends to move to the US for her. I think that’s quite a lot.

I'd find that more heat warming if it wasn't well known that he wanted to leave before he met her. She enabled him to leave a life he is on record as not enjoying, he enabled her to bully her staff without doing anything to stop it.

I'm not saying Harry is awful and Meghan is perfect, I just don't buy that there is a "real" Harry who is different from the one in Spare and the Oprah interview. I see no evidence for that construct. I do see an "old" Harry, who played the palace PR game which was well received, maybe he is finally going back to what worked for him with the public.

I just find this apparent PR campaign of separating them and seemingly putting all the blame on her whilst Harry gets positive press to be unfair. But, as I said, it's his pattern to blame everyone but himself.

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 09:03

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 08:50

What are you on about. He “let “ her. This isn’t the 1950s. No one’s husband lets them do anything. Or shouldn’t. And he did a huge amount to help her. He left for her.

Apart from leaving the country, which he wanted to do before he met her, what has he done for her? He certainly didn't help her adjust to the family. He insisted that "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets" even in the face of the late Queen and William raising concerns. He was "embarrassed" to help her when she was struggling with her mental health.

If I am being unkind to people my husband at least points it out, when I'm struggling with mental illness, my husband gets me help when i can't help myself. By "let" I mean that he didn't do either of those things, not that he should have told her what to do.

He's given her an expensive lifestyle. And now he is standing back and letting her be castigated in the press, just like he did with his family. It's his MO.

Mostly I think I'm annoyed by this because he is obviously still trying to get half in half out and I don't want him representing my country

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/10/2024 09:03

The "real" Harry she is talking about was a construct of palace PR. Harry showed us who he is in Spare, an entitled, arrogant, victim in his own mind

Correct as usual, @MrsLeonFarrell; he's shown us who he really is in a lot else as well, but Spare did as good a job as anything else

As said though, the public can be gullible and the media swing this way and that according to what'll produce the best clickbait at the time, so at the moment we see the ridiculous "Harry the statesman" and by next week it'll probably be something else

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 09:04

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 08:57

I'd find that more heat warming if it wasn't well known that he wanted to leave before he met her. She enabled him to leave a life he is on record as not enjoying, he enabled her to bully her staff without doing anything to stop it.

I'm not saying Harry is awful and Meghan is perfect, I just don't buy that there is a "real" Harry who is different from the one in Spare and the Oprah interview. I see no evidence for that construct. I do see an "old" Harry, who played the palace PR game which was well received, maybe he is finally going back to what worked for him with the public.

I just find this apparent PR campaign of separating them and seemingly putting all the blame on her whilst Harry gets positive press to be unfair. But, as I said, it's his pattern to blame everyone but himself.

As much as I agree that there is one Harry, and it is who did spare and all the attacks, I am also not convinced Harry would have left and was wanting to do so, and it wasn’t he left as Megan was suicidal.

MrsLeonFarrell · 02/10/2024 09:05

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/10/2024 09:03

The "real" Harry she is talking about was a construct of palace PR. Harry showed us who he is in Spare, an entitled, arrogant, victim in his own mind

Correct as usual, @MrsLeonFarrell; he's shown us who he really is in a lot else as well, but Spare did as good a job as anything else

As said though, the public can be gullible and the media swing this way and that according to what'll produce the best clickbait at the time, so at the moment we see the ridiculous "Harry the statesman" and by next week it'll probably be something else

The idea that he is any kind of statesman is hilarious. I don't want him representing me, he hasn't got the character needed.

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