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Continuing HR article, Netflix

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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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Uricon2 · 21/09/2024 14:05

'The Duchess of Sussex said on the red carpet of the Power of Women event in Los Angeles last night that she wants to create ‘things that make people feel’ as well as ‘a sense of community’.'

'things that make people feel'. I didn't know strawberry jam and dog biscuits were such powerful conduits of emotion, TBH.

Hiji · 21/09/2024 14:12

Uricon2 · 21/09/2024 14:05

'The Duchess of Sussex said on the red carpet of the Power of Women event in Los Angeles last night that she wants to create ‘things that make people feel’ as well as ‘a sense of community’.'

'things that make people feel'. I didn't know strawberry jam and dog biscuits were such powerful conduits of emotion, TBH.

Maybe make people feel - belittled, hurt, distressed....

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 21/09/2024 14:17

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 13:31

Yes, that's what I said. WME are very powerful and preventing negative publicity for a client is part of their remit. The fact that they chose not to do so here signifies that the Sussexes, or certainly Meghan, are finished in Hollywood.

I never really understood what sort of work MWE were supposed to find for her. Yes, she was an actress, but at the time she signed with them, it was made clear she did not intend returning to that career. Any TV work would be handled by their NF contract. So what did that leave? Maybe some sort of brand endorsement deal, but it's clear no major names want to work with her. I don't think ARO is going to materialise either.

Things happen quickly in the entertainment biz, and if Meghan has been with one of the most powerful Hollywood agencies for well over a year now, without any sign of any projects in the pipeline, then it's hard to see where future contracts are going to come from.

I remember IcedPurple. You said that it wasn't just that the Hollywood Reporter said what they said; it's that they felt free to say it. They knew the climate was right to publish and that there would be no pushback from WME. I found that interesting and still do.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 21/09/2024 14:28

Will we see Harry doing the country visits alone?

Will he want to? Botswana possibly, because that links with Sentebale which was very much Harry's project (but not only his, Prince Seeiso of Lesotho was one of the joint founders.) But elsewhere? I didn't follow the Colombia trip in detail, but Nigeria seemed to be All About Meghan with Harry just there somewhere in the background.

Mylovelygreendress · 21/09/2024 14:47

Many years ago, a disgruntled member of staff accused me of bullying . The accusation was investigated and - rightly - thrown out . Even though I knew it was rubbish ( and other colleagues assured me it was untrue) I still took time to reflect .
In contrast , Meghan has been accused by several people of bullying , belittling and generally obnoxious behaviour yet never seems to pause and consider her actions . I find it strange that someone could be so sure that they are right and everyone else wrong .

Hiji · 21/09/2024 15:08

Mylovelygreendress · 21/09/2024 14:47

Many years ago, a disgruntled member of staff accused me of bullying . The accusation was investigated and - rightly - thrown out . Even though I knew it was rubbish ( and other colleagues assured me it was untrue) I still took time to reflect .
In contrast , Meghan has been accused by several people of bullying , belittling and generally obnoxious behaviour yet never seems to pause and consider her actions . I find it strange that someone could be so sure that they are right and everyone else wrong .

The only reflecting she has done is DARVO - so pointing the blame right back to claim that these reports from her employees were a "calculated smear campaign".

Also she doubled down to justify her behaviour on the Spotify Podcasts to protest that people call you 'demanding' when you are 'only setting a boundary'.

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 15:27

Thedom · 21/09/2024 11:11

I agree, they are now on phase ‘god knows how many’,

I think the next iteration of the H&M story will be an attempt to have Harry as the Royal ‘statesman’ face, and Meghan as the commercial face. Although I think it will be difficult for Meghan, personally, to step away from the benefits of her British Royal family title, she has really leaned into her Duchess title despite her very short tenure as a working Royal, and despite being so vocal and nasty about how very miserable she was in that capacity. Will we see Harry doing the country visits alone? I don’t think Meghan could cope, she desperately wants to be feted, even if it’s by crooks.

I really think using that Royal title was her first big misstep, It is so disingenuous and inauthentic, and she has never managed to create any credibility around it, in fact, it has been the very opposite.

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The problem is that they have tried to set themselves up as 'American royals', and that's just not a 'thing'. Establishing that daft 'Office of the Duke and Duchess' website. Going on pseudo royal 'tours' in any country that will have them. Insisting on using their pointless titles in America. And so on. They're trying to recreate their royal role in California, and it just doesn't work. In fact it looks ridiculous.

They should have separated their 'brands' 4 years ago. I think it's too late now. 4 years ago they were fresh and exciting, with lots of support. But now they're both in their 40s and old news. Besides, neither has any marketable talent. Happily for them, they have more than enough money to live in comfort without ever having to work again, but as you say, they, or at least she, needs status and adulation. The bizarre thing is, if they'd stayed as working royals they'd have had that pretty much guaranteed for the rest of their lives. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer, either of them.

Hiji · 21/09/2024 15:35

Yes those uncomfortable chasms between what they bring to the table with their respective 'talents' against the amplified 'status' that they see themselves and the psychological imperative for adulation and attention.

smilesy · 21/09/2024 15:40

'things that make people feel'. I didn't know strawberry jam and dog biscuits were such powerful conduits of emotion, TBH.

make people feel sick 🤔

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 15:54

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

Thank you for your contribution.

BreadInCaptivity · 21/09/2024 16:24

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

Not angry. Actually quite fascinated by how 2 people who had so much privilege and goodwill have managed to piss it all away in such spectacular fashion.

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2024 16:33

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

Not angry, just fascinated.

I'll stop being interested when Harry stops suing the UK and stops trying to achieve half in half out by the back door.

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2024 16:34

BreadInCaptivity · 21/09/2024 16:24

Not angry. Actually quite fascinated by how 2 people who had so much privilege and goodwill have managed to piss it all away in such spectacular fashion.

And this.

There is something in royal genetics that throws up someone who does this in most generations.

Hiji · 21/09/2024 16:41

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

Quite fascinated to see the bullys finally outed -- too many people are still suffering and being silenced by them both behind closed doors over many years whilst they float around preaching a fake humanitarian anti-bullying initative exploiting vulnerable bereaved parents to solely enhance their own H&M brand and commercial interests.

Grosteque couple.

BreadInCaptivity · 21/09/2024 16:42

Re: WME.

Yes it is interesting.....

They should have been able to stop this story so why haven't they?

Possibly they have already prevented publication multiple times and are fed up with using their collateral on repeat.

Maybe they have experienced the same behaviours (especially about taking professional advice) and allowing publication is effectively a warning shot to say this is what happens to clients who risk our reputation by not following guidance.

Or they just don't care anymore because every endeavour seems to fail and there's only so much spin you can dole out that's credible.

Whichever way you cut it it's not good news for H&M.

What next will be interesting. I think they may well find that whilst burning all those bridges felt good at the time and brought in the bucks, it's left them with very limited accessible forward destinations as it's hard to see how some of those bridges can ever be rebuilt.

CoffeeCantata · 21/09/2024 16:43

Mischance · 21/09/2024 12:11

Why do so many people feel the need to shit on this couple?

Wake up and smell the coffee!

CoffeeCantata · 21/09/2024 16:45

Dabralor · 21/09/2024 15:43

God, can't believe people are still angry at this pair. They shifted out of the UK what, 4years ago now - it's a bit weird that you all still care what a random rich couple do.

This post makes no sense. It completely fails to address the points raised in the recent news of Meghan's workplace bullying, which is now attested not only in the UK but also in the US.

What do you have to say about that? Are you OK with workplace bullying?

Uricon2 · 21/09/2024 16:49

I'm only musing, but as others have rightly said, WME should have been able to stop this. I wonder if their failure to is because they know it is a) true and b) there is worse to come, so have backed off to let it take its course, possibly hoping that they will get ditched by M and H at this point for not having killed the story. It does seem very odd.

ETA @BreadInCaptivity put it better!

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 16:52

Uricon2 · 21/09/2024 16:49

I'm only musing, but as others have rightly said, WME should have been able to stop this. I wonder if their failure to is because they know it is a) true and b) there is worse to come, so have backed off to let it take its course, possibly hoping that they will get ditched by M and H at this point for not having killed the story. It does seem very odd.

ETA @BreadInCaptivity put it better!

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WME are huge. Meghan, who as I said above has failed to score any lucrative contracts despite being on their books for over a year, is small fry. I'm not even sure they're still repping her. Even if they are, I suspect they will drop her soon, as Spotify have done, and NF will do as soon as their contract expires. I doubt they consider her worthy of any great effort at this stage.

Hiji · 21/09/2024 17:01

I understood that PH was due to be platformed with all the great and the good this coming week at The Clinton Global Initiative in NYC - talking about The Parents Network for Online Bullying....

However I cant see him listed as a participant or on the agenda?
Maybe it needs updating? Or I have missed it? All the other people that were trumpeted to be speaking are all on there?

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative-september-2024-meeting/

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 17:13

Hiji · 21/09/2024 17:01

I understood that PH was due to be platformed with all the great and the good this coming week at The Clinton Global Initiative in NYC - talking about The Parents Network for Online Bullying....

However I cant see him listed as a participant or on the agenda?
Maybe it needs updating? Or I have missed it? All the other people that were trumpeted to be speaking are all on there?

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative-september-2024-meeting/

He's there. Listed as 'Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex'. Because it's very important that everyone knows his full British peerage title at all times.

Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 17:15

WME must see what way the wind is blowing.

Netflix is coming to a close. M&H will say, this chapter has been successful for them and they have achieved what they set out to do.

I cannot, for the life of me, think of any celebrity that has been able to launch a successful business, when the opinion of them is both so toxic and divisive, in addition to intense media scrutiny. I just don’t see how it is possible to launch ARO and for it to be a money maker.

They don’t have Harry on the books, only Meghan. So where do they go with her? Theres no point in them exerting huge energy fighting these types of HR bullying stories, if they aren’t likely to reap a financial reward from working with her.

We can see, the media can see it, WME are starting to see it…..Will Meghan ever see it?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/09/2024 17:18

BreadInCaptivity · 21/09/2024 16:42

Re: WME.

Yes it is interesting.....

They should have been able to stop this story so why haven't they?

Possibly they have already prevented publication multiple times and are fed up with using their collateral on repeat.

Maybe they have experienced the same behaviours (especially about taking professional advice) and allowing publication is effectively a warning shot to say this is what happens to clients who risk our reputation by not following guidance.

Or they just don't care anymore because every endeavour seems to fail and there's only so much spin you can dole out that's credible.

Whichever way you cut it it's not good news for H&M.

What next will be interesting. I think they may well find that whilst burning all those bridges felt good at the time and brought in the bucks, it's left them with very limited accessible forward destinations as it's hard to see how some of those bridges can ever be rebuilt.

Another of your common sense posts, BreadInCaptivity

I'd only add that with so many potential clients, most of whom will have a lot more credibility and abilities to sell, WME may have simply decided they're not worth their time any more - though I'd love to be a fly on the wall if someone's picked to deliver that message

Hiji · 21/09/2024 17:23

IcedPurple · 21/09/2024 17:13

He's there. Listed as 'Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex'. Because it's very important that everyone knows his full British peerage title at all times.

Whoops must have missed that and couldnt see his picture -- thought he might have cried off sick!

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