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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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EdithWeston · 01/10/2024 19:45

garlicandsapphires · 01/10/2024 19:40

Does anyone side eye Catherine for wearing very very pale yellow to Harry’s wedding? Yellow that photographed as white…?
I thought that was odd, for her.

I didn’t like that choice.

I don’t think nearly white (that may well look white in certain lights) is appropriate for a wedding

wordler · 01/10/2024 19:47

garlicandsapphires · 01/10/2024 19:40

Does anyone side eye Catherine for wearing very very pale yellow to Harry’s wedding? Yellow that photographed as white…?
I thought that was odd, for her.

It was a weirdly light yellow but I think based on what Doria and Camilla were wearing there was a light pastel theme for the main wedding party for the photos so after pale green and pale pink were taken, and Meghan's best friend was in a deep blue - so maybe yellow was best option left.

I'd have been too worried about various postpartum leakage to feel confident in a pale pastel and have gone for a dark blue or red! But I'm sure she would have been criticised if she'd stood out in a dark colour too.

Also squeezing your body into anything formal after only 26 days must have been stressful.

Serenster · 01/10/2024 20:05

If you look at the official photo released, it’s clear that Kate’s lemon coat dress was perfectly placed in the colour scheme Meghan had selected for her wedding. I very much doubt it was a coincidence that Kate, Camilla and Doria were all in different very pale pastel shades, with just the Queen in brighter shades (and all the men/boys bar Charles in black). They also contrast beautifully with the bright green silk wallpaper.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 01/10/2024 20:06

garlicandsapphires · 01/10/2024 19:40

Does anyone side eye Catherine for wearing very very pale yellow to Harry’s wedding? Yellow that photographed as white…?
I thought that was odd, for her.

I’m wondering if she had a couple of choices and went with the outfit, which fitted. After all had Louis been overdue, perhaps Catherine would have only given birth 2 weeks prior.

BasiliskStare · 01/10/2024 21:18

I am pretty sure Catherine tries to do the Right Thing - I am guessing the colour of her outfit was appropriate - may not have shown so on the TV in certain lights

balletflats · 01/10/2024 21:39

If Meghan had not been happy with the colour of Catherine's dress I am sure she would have been prostrate on the floor of the Church, wailing and needing smelling salts.

Needanewname42 · 01/10/2024 21:41

SqueakyDinosaur · 01/10/2024 18:53

On a recent episode of the Queen's Reading Room, she talked about how KC3 is a brilliant reader-aloud to children. So he may be more pro them than we think....

I don't know how to link Internet photos. But Google images Charles and Camilla's Granddaughter.
It's really sweet, suit, spinning the wee girl. There is definitely a fun side to Charles we rarely see.

BasiliskStare · 01/10/2024 21:41

@balletflats 😂

StartupRepair · 01/10/2024 21:42

I think it's great that Harry's DC are kept out of the public eye. Shame about the isolation without extended family. I suspect they are told that the UK family are very mean to Mummy and Daddy. Oh and the US relations too.
It is a lot of heavy lifting for Doria being the only relative in their lives.

BasiliskStare · 01/10/2024 21:47

@StartupRepair I agree with you in that I don't think it is bad parenting from H&M to keep their children out of the public eye . What I do think is curious is if A&L ever ak ask " do we not have grandads " and given they are Prince and Princess - I wonder how Harry will tell them that the UK is too dangerous for them to visit given their Grandpa is the King and Harry has been there. Also they will find out they have cousins and relatives.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 01/10/2024 21:54

I see Harry is now in Africa on his own.. he does seem to be doing a lot on his own now..

MrsFinkelstein · 01/10/2024 22:28

garlicandsapphires · 01/10/2024 19:40

Does anyone side eye Catherine for wearing very very pale yellow to Harry’s wedding? Yellow that photographed as white…?
I thought that was odd, for her.

No. The colour irl was darker than it appeared on camera. In the formal photos it was completely in keeping with the chosen colour palette.

I mean, no one was going to confuse her with the Bride.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 01/10/2024 22:33

I’m sure we’d have heard about it if either H or M were Unhappy about it!

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 01/10/2024 23:10

Back to Harry and his kids, I think of them when I see that photo of Harry out on his bike being slowly trailed by his security in a 4 x 4. It just makes me think why isn't he taking his children out on a bike ride. You know who likes going out on their bicycles? Children!! Children do. Why doesn't he go cycling with them. He is never even seen with a child seat on his bike.

BreadInCaptivity · 01/10/2024 23:17

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 01/10/2024 23:10

Back to Harry and his kids, I think of them when I see that photo of Harry out on his bike being slowly trailed by his security in a 4 x 4. It just makes me think why isn't he taking his children out on a bike ride. You know who likes going out on their bicycles? Children!! Children do. Why doesn't he go cycling with them. He is never even seen with a child seat on his bike.

Was that not a criticism of H's in the OW interview (that his father never did this) that resulted in a number of pictures of Charles doing exactly that doing the rounds in the press/SM?

Easily found example of many below.

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Twistybranch · 01/10/2024 23:43

Back to the HR article:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/01/is-meghan-markle-poised-for-an-ellen-degeneres-terrible-boss-downfall/

An interesting article and showing the story hasn’t gone away. But the most interesting part is this:

Schiffer said it’s too soon to say whether Meghan is poised for an Ellen DeGeneres-style fall from grace.
It depends on whether the back and forth in the U.S. media will prompt other news and entertainment organizations to do some digging, or other current and former employees to speak out, for or against the American duchess. He also wonders if Meghan and Harry are at risk of litigation.
“Are there more things that will come out?” Schiffer told Newsweek. “The question is, what is the life of the set of allegations? If it can stay alive it becomes additional stories that start to solidify a serious image hit.”

So I’ve been thinking this:

1- Why did HR do the story in the first place? Had there been rumours for months and they decided to investigate? Or did they have a direct source and started from there? they obviously don’t think much of her career to do a story like that….i don’t think they would waste time on someone on the industry who many depend on for jobs. They must see her as expendable in producing/entertainment world.
2- It would have at a minimum, taken weeks to investigate this story. They had 12 contacts speak to them that confirm the negative behaviour but there would have been a lot more who were maybe unwilling to talk, not useful etc. That’s a lot of researcher/journalists time don’t you think? So there must have been something concrete to go on in order to get the green light to investigate from the editor. The editor seems very involved too. Which brings me back to thinking everyone in Hollywood must know about this behaviour.
3- Now that we’ve had the Times and the HR, there’s obviously people willing to speak. So like it said in the article….are other outlets going to continue to dig? So more and more stories come out and she gets cancelled? These things sometimes snowball.
4- Interesting that they are talking about possible litigation. Look at all the lawsuits hitting diddy right now.
5-From Ellen’s special, she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong. But she did say she seen a counsellor about how people thought she was ‘mean’. I wonder if Ellen would have recommended that same specialist to meghan! Maybe that’s why she has gone super quiet.
6- Final thought. How on earth is a woman who was suicidal from the press writing relatively mild criticisms of her in 2018/2019….now be coping with what I can only imagine as the worst possible headline that we’ve had about her? She’s still human, she will be mortified and upset and can’t make out it’s just a smear campaign. We know she’s upset because we had the silly US Weekly clap back. How can she possibly be coping well with this? And Harry yet again has pissed off on another PR jolly.

Is Meghan Markle poised for an Ellen DeGeneres ‘terrible boss’ downfall?

Ellen DeGeneres could prove to be a cautionary tale for the American Duchess of Sussex, as the comedian’s reputation has never really recovered from allegations that she was not a nice person…

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/01/is-meghan-markle-poised-for-an-ellen-degeneres-terrible-boss-downfall

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Hiji · 01/10/2024 23:51

I wonder whats happening to the German doc - was that held back at one point because of threat of litigation? Maybe that will run a deeper expose?

BreadInCaptivity · 02/10/2024 00:04

Interesting post @Twistybranch.

Re: the HR article it wasn't a big piece so maybe they were testing the waters for how much traction it got before digging deeper?

Is it worth their time to do so? TBH calling a few former staff members for comment isn't serious journalistic investigation - though they will have done due diligence on sources.

I suspect there is more going on behind the scenes than we know.

As for M's state of mind, yes it will be a horrible time for her and as you point out one where H is failing to provide support (shades of him failing her when she was pregnant and having suicidal thoughts in her - yet he couldn't help her - despite being a multi millionaire, heading a MH initiative, having access to his own therapists etc etc).

But it's a double edged sword isn't it.

They've denied all this as a smear campaign so the show has to go on. Nothing to see here....

He bunkers down with her, cancelling engagements and that leads to more press "Sussex's in Crisis" type headlines.

There's no easy response to all this. That's why it's so damaging.

ClosingTheDoorOnThePast · 02/10/2024 00:43

As for M's state of mind, yes it will be a horrible time for her and as you point out one where H is failing to provide support (shades of him failing her when she was pregnant and having suicidal thoughts in her - yet he couldn't help her - despite being a multi millionaire, heading a MH initiative, having access to his own therapists etc etc).

This is the thing isn't it? She was suicidal then, has tried to control her narrative since and then all this has kicked off. I do wonder how she is coping especially considering PH is overseas. I'm not a Meghan fan at all but this is potentially career ending stuff. I guess we are witnessing history in the making.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 02/10/2024 06:24

this is potentially career ending stuff

It won't be. She doesn't have a career, for starters. And there is a reason why King Charles used to refer to her as 'Tungsten'. She will go into 'I don't like it, so I'm not hearing it' mode and charge onwards, sure of her own brilliance. I wonder if it affects Harry more.

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 07:22

And Harry yet again has pissed off on another PR jolly

im not sure about this, he seems to be low key just doing it. It’s not the big extravaganza that occurs when Megan accompanies him, and he seems to be focusing on the causes. This tour is a very different animal to the others. No big publicity before it, no Harpers bazar, no acting like a superstar.

id not be surprised if Megan was supposed to be there, and cancelled.

Needanewname42 · 02/10/2024 07:31

If she's so abusive to staff, how do we know she's not abusive and controlling to Harry? He never seems to look happy when they are together.

Someone is stirring this stuff.
H is out the way while the shit is hitting the fan. When is he due back in LA?

I can't help feeling this is his big bid for Freedom. Getting positive coverage of him, negative for her?
He's done his bit of the Netflix documentaries, so no more contractual obligations.

Good time to break away if he's ever going to do it.

Twistybranch · 02/10/2024 07:35

Frenchkisserintheusa · 02/10/2024 07:22

And Harry yet again has pissed off on another PR jolly

im not sure about this, he seems to be low key just doing it. It’s not the big extravaganza that occurs when Megan accompanies him, and he seems to be focusing on the causes. This tour is a very different animal to the others. No big publicity before it, no Harpers bazar, no acting like a superstar.

id not be surprised if Megan was supposed to be there, and cancelled.

It might not be flashy or in variety but that’s because he wants to act like a ‘statesman’ but he doesn’t act on behalf of any state, this is just a PR exercise for him

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Twistybranch · 02/10/2024 07:37

Needanewname42 · 02/10/2024 07:31

If she's so abusive to staff, how do we know she's not abusive and controlling to Harry? He never seems to look happy when they are together.

Someone is stirring this stuff.
H is out the way while the shit is hitting the fan. When is he due back in LA?

I can't help feeling this is his big bid for Freedom. Getting positive coverage of him, negative for her?
He's done his bit of the Netflix documentaries, so no more contractual obligations.

Good time to break away if he's ever going to do it.

Yes the whole new PR drive is definitely about he isn’t involved with the Netflix deal anymore. He did the bare minimum and is now out

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upinaballoon · 02/10/2024 07:41

Mylovelygreendress · 01/10/2024 19:08

The King ( when simply Prince Charles) wrote The Old Man of Lochnagar to entertain Andrew and Edward . It was later published and the proceeds donated to charity .

I was going to say that, if you hadn't. I remember him reading it on Jackanory, on TV.

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