Continuing HR article, Netflix

[Twistybranch]

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

If you did then I've missed it too - just rechecked the list of participants and unless I'm losing what passes for my mind I can't see his name?

Unless maybe he's bought a place and is on some other list, but then Archewell aren't named among the sponsors either

Of course I'm not ok with workplace bullying.
I just fail to understand why people are so invested in the comings and goings of this daft couple.
Do you get this angry about other people like Mohamed al Fayed or that french rapist or any number of other people who have done really terrible things, or is it all reserved for Meghan and harry? Were you furious at anyone before 2020 or was it all just being stored up for the big Oprah moment?

I'm not angry, I don't care enough to whip up that kind of emotion within myself about them! But they are the gift that keeps on giving and I admit I am interested in what they're going to do next. They just keep shooting themselves in the foot and making terrible faux pas. And the fact that they are/were royalty, and seem desperate to keep themselves in the public eye no matter what the cost, despite ostensibly wanting out of all that - makes it a fascinating and very public car crash, that they seem very interested in perpetuating. I admit I can't keep my eyes away. And I don't think they want me to.

@Dabralor

People aren’t angry. They finally feel vindicated. For those who saw through the entire Sussex act years ago this comes as confirmation of the fact that the Sussexes have been slinging mud to deflect from their own behaviour.

If there is anger then it is about the fact that these two preach about kindness and community but their behaviour is completely the opposite. The hypocrisy is masssive.

@Dabralor Do you not understand that people have the capacity to be angry about several things at the same time?

Although, to be clear, I am much more angry about Al-Fayed, the French rapes and the carnage that is being played out in many parts of the world than I am about this, frankly pathetic, couple.

Do you get this angry about other people like Mohamed al Fayed or that french rapist or any number of other people who have done really terrible things, or is it all reserved for Meghan and harry? Were you furious at anyone before 2020 or was it all just being stored up for the big Oprah moment?

Yet another "whataboutary" comment.

It's perfectly feasible to hold views on multiple people in the news simultaneously and equally for those feelings to be different.

As above I'm not angry with H&M. Nor am I furious.

If they stopped behaving hypocritically and used their platform for good instead of greed I'd support their efforts (as I did prior to their ridiculous half in/half out throughly entitled demands).

I do however feel anger towards about MaF and Pelicit and the people complicit in the behaviours of both. The same way I hold Andrew in contempt.

The above are all beyond redemption. But for H&M I don't think this is the case, though I doubt their ability improve public perception of them as they appear to lack any ability to reflect on their behaviours to their own detriment.

The party was thrown by WME ... Missing, though, was one of Emanuel's most famous ­clients, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex. But – just three days after a ­brutal take-down in the usually placid industry bible The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled her as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor husband Prince Harry were showing their faces.
Whether they didn't get an invite or declined to go, their attendance at the event would have made the couple appear at least sanguine in the wake of the article

No f*ing way would they have NOT gone to this party if they'd been invited! It would've been a huge signal of WME's continuing faith in Meghan if she'd been able to show her face at such an illustrious event, hob-nobbing with A-listers and waving two fingers at THR and all the people she's bullied. The fact that they didn't go is a clear indication (to me, at least) that they weren't invited. The fact that WME didn't kill the story speaks volumes IMO, and not being invited to the party is huge. I reckon WME will drop Meghan asap. I remember reading at the time she signed with them that Ari Emanuel didn't want to take her on, because 'he didn't know what he was going to do with her' and that he only did it as a supposed favour to Serena Williams, who had no doubt had her arm twisted by MM to get herself signed to WME.

Dabralor - I'm* not *angry, but I am interested in narcissistic behaviour and what happens when it's unchecked. H&M are a good example.

But this thread isn't about the sleaze-bag, Mohammed Fayed. It's about Meghan and Harry (Meghan really) and the recent Hollywood Reporter article. Call me old-fashioned, but I like to stick to the topic the OP has raised.

Totally!

I'm eager to see where Meghan goes from here with her anti-bullying virtue-signalling. I cannot abide hypocrites, and it will be fascinating to see what she does next.

Giving people their voices...yeah, right. As long as they sign an NDA.

I honestly don't see a future for them even as Hollywood adjacent, which at best they are. They seem unable to come up with anything that actually, demonstrably makes them money other than dirt dishing on the RF and as we all know, the door to top up that supply has clanged shut a while ago. I don't think WME will keep them either and given the HR piece, won't other agencies run as if pursued by a bear if they approach them?Neither of them have the talent or bankability to behave badly and be saved.

It was pretty apparent from the get go that they have little real currency other than their titles and nothing they have done has disproved that. What happens next is going to be interesting.

@Uricon2, I'd expect that "other agencies" would fudge their behaviour and take them on if there was sufficient money in it, but as you said yourself they have no real talent to sell and the well of RF stories has long run dry

There's a tipping point involved in these things which once reached can be impossible to come back from, but whether they're quite there yet remains to be seen

I never really understood what sort of work WME were supposed to find for her. Maybe some sort of brand endorsement deal, but it's clear no major names want to work with her.

I think a major brand endorsement deal was exactly what she was after. Remember the Dior story that broke around the time she signed with WME? How Meghan was going to be the new brand ambassador or some such nonsense - and then Dior denied it and signed someone else.

Remember the Dior story that broke around the time she signed with WME?

In light of whatever went wrong with Givenchy's bride/bridesmaid dresses - and this for a hugely high profile event - I doubt another leading couture house would touch her, @cheezncrackers

I'm not sure anyone's ever known how the Dior story came into being, but if WME trailed it hoping Dior might bite they may have been a bit overoptimistic

I don't see how the Parent Network can have any credibility now. It never had much given the tacit support for the Sussex Squad, but the accusations of work place bullying put it beyond the pale. Choosing to dismiss this as a smear campaign - the same thing that they have been saying since 2018, no reflection that they might be the problem. And no, I still don't think this just a Meghan issue, Harry is culpable for not stepping in at the very least, very likely more.

Well PH is scheduled to be on a panel showcasing the Parent Network on Tues - alongside Katie Couric the journalist who mocked MM when she was on a panel with her at SXSW last year from repeating the soapdish story. Maybe MM refused to share a platform - wonder if KC will behave or not be able to resist putting the boot in to PH?

Wasn't Diana offered a deal to be the face of Dior (which she refused)? I'm sure I remember that but she certainly had one of their bags named in her honour, the Lady Dior.

I'm inclined to think that rumour was more attempted Diana cosplay.

I don’t think he’s there either. Has he pulled out or was he never meant to go?

I found him on the agenda at the start of day 2 - couldnt find his picture tho

Bingo! The same old claptrap to try to stifle someone else's opinion. Why do you care? Oops there's another bingo!

I have had wine tonight so that might be the reason but i can’t see his name anywhere!

That's quite the line up at the Clinton presentations ! The Sussexes are nowhere near this level of knowledge, power or commitment. They flit from thing to thing. These people are the real deal.

I never really understood what sort of work WME were supposed to find for her. Maybe some sort of brand endorsement deal, but it's clear no major names want to work with her.

What kind of brand would she be endorsing, and why would her endorsement carry any weight with consumers? Fashion? She's not known for great style and glamour, in the way that Princess Margaret, Grace Kelly or Diana, for example, were. She hasn't got any great personal achievements behind her, such as Anne or Zara or her pal Serena have. And if it's just to be the face of something, well there are a great many younger and more beautiful faces around.

I think that's an interesting question.

I'm sure I fully agree with your assessment though.

She is very pretty and whilst I don't necessarily think her fashion choices are aways to my taste she does have her own aesthetic.

I do think she has a good eye for jewellery for example, particularly more modern pieces.

The truth is there is always someone younger and prettier so I don't think that's the bar here - especially if you're pitching to a demographic that can afford lux goods as they are more likely 30's upwards.

The problem I feel is that she attracts devotion and distain in equal measure along with a huge segment of people in the US specifically for whom she barely moves the needle in terms of recognition/interest.

In that sense she's simply not a great potential brand ambassador, especially when she and H have proven to make choices that are contentious with a reputation for "doing it their way". That makes them/her unpredictable/uncontrollable and that makes brands very nervous indeed.

After all one of the biggest global brands is The British Royal Family and their track record in successfully promoting and remaining loyal to that (despite a very significant financial incentive and more than Dior would pay annually) is not an inducement to given them a shot at representing another.