Continuing HR article, Netflix

[Twistybranch]

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

I thought Harry only believed in ´his’ truth and not the actual facts. He admits himself that his memory is flawed (as proven my the myriad of inaccuracies already found in Spare).anyone who believes a word out of his mouth is either paid or needs an intervention.

@BreadInCaptivity
Totally agree.

Their lack of critical thinking is remarkable.
It really wasn’t too much of a long game to recognise that Charles and most importantly William were the ones they needed to keep onboard. William being key here.

But frankly they haven’t thought anything through properly. It’s evident they don’t listen to sage advice either. It’s ok to make a couple of unwise decisions/mistakes but to blunder on constantly making poor decisions without actually having a tangible talent for anything just highlights their somewhat questionable and precarious “star platform”.

They only really have PH’s position of royalty. And the further away he is from the main players the less his royal connections mean. If he and her hadn’t blown up that solid connection and were still well thought of, their glitz and perceived value would still of held considerable sway in forging that semi royal lifestyle that it would appear they both want.

I sometimes think that in their somewhat loose acquaintance with actual truth and facts, H and M have rather more in common with a certain orange former president than they would like to admit.

Anyway, since I doubt my question will be answered, the story is:

Omid Scobie (Meghan’s unofficial spokesperson at the time) said in his new epilogue added to the paperback version of Finding Freedom that “"sources confirmed that upon discovery of Jason [Knauf]'s email, two of the individuals mentioned in the email asked for any allegations made to HR about their experiences with Meghan to be rescinded."

Valentine Low who had spoken to Meghan’s victims directly to write both the original Times article and who included details of their accounts in his book Courtiers tweeted that Omid’s comments were: “misleading nonsense. The former staff members did not make the bullying allegation, Jason Knauf did”. Meaning that the complaint had been made by a third party on the basis of what he had seen and heard - individual victims can’t do anything about that (except decline to be interviewed in any investigation).

Fast forward and we know the investigation was concluded, and that past and present employees were invited to speak about the handling of bullying claims relating to Meghan. The Palace confirmed that the inquiry had resulted in changes to policies and procedures but declined to give any further details - which is completely normal in employment investigations.

So the allegations were not withdrawn and the investigation did go ahead, concluded, and no-one knows the outcome (despite what TripleSec may claim).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61984118

🫱 bigly 🫲

By my count there are only 2 or 3 long-standing Meghan and Harry fans apologists supporters on this board who are still trying to either defend them against all odds, or to pretend the past couple of weeks haven't happened. They make me think of the famous lines from Casabianca:

The boy stood on the burning deck
Whence all but he had fled;

I know they're annoying but there's a part of me which grudgingly admires such blind faith and determined loyalty in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Just as Meghan is a fascinating study in practical narcissism, it's interesting to see how deeply invested some people have become in her and Harry - and how hard they're finding it to wake up and smell the coffee...or the burning deck... which other people could sniff years ago. It must be a case of wanting things to be a certain way (which we're all guilty of in some areas) and being desperate to hold on to a powerful myth they've bought into. I used to adore Huw Edwards, but when the story broke and the evidence was presented, I had to let my admiration go - and it was hard! It upset me a lot, having to accept that someone I thought was almost the personification of the BBC was a dishonest and sleazy character - but I'm a realist.

The dogged determination to cling to the wreckage of the good ship Harry and Meghan is absolutely fascinating to anyone interested in psychology.

To me , it obvious why these allegations and stories are being printed now ,
Before they were protected ( to a certain extent) by the palace.
Then they were protected by certain big movers and shakers in the US .

Truth always comes out eventually and once the protection they once had steps away .
All it takes is one small uncontested story ...then another..... then another and before you know it the dam bursts and out it all comes, we have all seen this before with other high profile people.

However it appears that someone is trying to protect Harry to a certain extent and uncouple him from some of these allegations , I welcome any media that points the blame squarely at the two of them !
They are both to blame and should both be held accountable.

I think you are right @jeffgoldblum. He is being drawn away from Meghan issues as if he had nothing to do with them. But at the very least he’s enabled her to continue to behave like this. It’s very much like people want to make Melanie Trump into some sort of innocent bystander when she’s qt the very least complicit in his behaviour.

👏@jeffgoldblum I completely agree

Sad state of affairs. If you can’t name your source don’t print rubbish.All while the HR is increasingly seen as more like a tabloid these days and moving to reporting on royals and the entertainment side of things. And all of it is immediately lapped up by those who wish to see the claims as true. Sad state of affairs. If you can’t name your source don’t print rubbish.

Sorry, are you the same person who quoted an obscure, whacky website called 'RoyalObserver' with a weird, entirely unsourced 'article' about Charles being a bully?

I'm pretty sure you are.

Sad state of affairs. If you can’t name your source don’t print rubbish.

Thanks @Bontonbonbon and @IAmATorturedPoet , honestly I think it's pure sexism personally, the woman should always take the blame and punishment!
Tale as old as time!
Eves fault Adam ate the apple!🍎
G maxwell the only one in prison!
Makes me sick!
Meghan is just as guilty as Harry but why should he get away when his actions are just as bad and if rumours are to be believed then even worse.

This is the aspect that is really annoying me at the moment.

Their lack of critical thinking is remarkable.
It really wasn’t too much of a long game to recognise that Charles and most importantly William were the ones they needed to keep onboard. William being key here.

I think they probably thought that by the time William became king they would be 10x richer, 10x more important and 10x more popular then him 🤦‍♀️

Urgh *than him

I'm unsure why Harry - currently in NYC with a mic in hand, talking about online bullying, hasn't spoken out in defence of his wife?

Why not say these horrible stories are all untrue? Even just 1 comment?

I'd fully expect my husband to defend me publicly if he had a platform to do so.

Totally agree @MrsFinkelstein . I would be really annoyed if my DH didn’t defend me if the allegations are untrue .

I can't. She will be Mama Bear-protective of her children and W now, and H will be lucky to get a colf mince pie at Christmas. You can only push a nice person so far.
Fat finger edits

I agree C and W will not want H in the same room as their children. They will not want him to be able to find out any private info about their lives. They don't trust him and never will.

I wonder what Harry's social circle would be like if he moved back - I think a lot of his UK friends were also William's friends, I can't see them being particularly happy to have Harry back, especially those who have seen up close what William has been through this year.

I think of all the things that have ever been said about Meghan, one of the most apt was William calling her abrasive (as said by Harry in his book). She is incredibly unlikeable and abrasive. I think most people are able to come across pleasant and likable enough, if they care to. She isn't able to. Perhaps she knows that on some level and that is why she has form for love-bombing as she has turn up the dial that high in an attempt to appear likable.

You may well be right

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/meghan-markle-moving-on-after-name-cleared-buckingham-palace-bullying-investigation

@jeffgoldblum
Yes Harry is being drawn away from Meghan.
Lots of other stories are coming out too like BoJo having a chat.

There is the talk of a business separation. But I think its more than that. Something is happening behind the scenes.
Give it time

I think most would be very wary, so many of them are from the aristocracy where it is part of their culture to be very private, and courting the press is seen as desperate and embarrassing. There are the occasional outliers (what was that family from that television series where they swore a lot and the house was falling into disrepair? And then when the heir got older he was a contestant on Big Brother 🤦‍♀️)

I think he'd largely have to make new friends. Probably whatever 'celebs' would have him and whatever old mates aren't quite so rich and principled. I'm sure his life wouldn't be as lonely as it is now but if I were him I'd rather live near my children, and Meghan is never going agree to them being in the UK.

Evie magazine? Really? 🤦‍♀️