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Continuing HR article, Netflix

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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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AutumnCrow · 29/09/2024 12:10

cheezncrackers · 29/09/2024 11:50

New article about Meghan as a boss in The Times today. This is the archive link for anyone who doesn't have a subscription:

archive.is/VYF2l

I think that's either a very naive article or it's been deliberately written to provoke comments.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 12:23

I think that it’s them putting the money in, to tax dodge
They use these philanthropic comapnies as a cover to disguise their name

You could well be right, @Twistybranch, though as with so much else concerning this family we'll probably never know

After all when the Head of State sets the example of accepting cash in suitcases and treats from gangsters there's not much point expecting better from the rest

CathyorClaire · 29/09/2024 12:33

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 11:37

There is so much about them that is murky, money-wise. Its never been got to the bottom of with what happened to the millions Meghan was paid by Disney for doing a voice-over for an elephant documentary. She announced she was donating her fee to the elephant charity featured in the doc, but the charity since said they never received it.

Agreed.

It started with charitable funds from the Royal Foundation ending up in Henry's private company and thus beyond the scrutiny of the Charity Commision.

The final destination of those funds has never been revealed.

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 13:40

CathyorClaire · 29/09/2024 12:33

Agreed.

It started with charitable funds from the Royal Foundation ending up in Henry's private company and thus beyond the scrutiny of the Charity Commision.

The final destination of those funds has never been revealed.

I remember reading that Archewell was registered as a charity in the state of Delaware, a state they have no connection to but whose laws mean legally they can keep 95% of the funds as personal expenses. Hence the only giving out a few paltry thousands occaionally. They really are a foul pair. Grotesque.

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 13:42

Five episode on Polo seems to me to be four episodes too many. Unless of course they are going down the Real Housewives route, in which case it might do quite well!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 13:50

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 13:40

I remember reading that Archewell was registered as a charity in the state of Delaware, a state they have no connection to but whose laws mean legally they can keep 95% of the funds as personal expenses. Hence the only giving out a few paltry thousands occaionally. They really are a foul pair. Grotesque.

You remember correctly, Alectoishome, though Archewell aren't alone in this; countless "foundations" are registered there and for the same reasons, but not all are quite as loud as H&M in telling everyone else what they should be doing

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 13:51

cheezncrackers · 29/09/2024 11:50

New article about Meghan as a boss in The Times today. This is the archive link for anyone who doesn't have a subscription:

archive.is/VYF2l

"If Charles were to welcome Harry back into the fold, the nation would probably follow his lead; the reservoir of affection for Diana's boy is deep. "

Really? I think that when people write about Harry they tend to forget about Diana's other boy. The one who works away steadily representing the UK, bringing attention to charities, who isn't flashy and who this year has had to face the prospect of losing both his father and his wife to cancer whilst so called supporters of his brother and SIL spread the vilest of rumours online.

William isn't a cheeky chappie, he seems rather staid (and I agree that the long summer break is out of date) but he has a lot of respect in this country and I think in general the public prefer boring and reliable to the emotional train wreck Harry has been for the last few years.

I don't think the public will follow Charles' lead on this, I think they need to see William's, assuming they will follow any lead apart from their own after Harry sold his family's privacy for money and suggested the country was racist.

BreadInCaptivity · 29/09/2024 14:25

I've said before that I think H&M both lack the ability to make long term strategic plans.

As a couple their behaviours are very reactionary and have been right from off with Harry's unprecedented press release when they were dating.

The megxit half in/half out was after H was told to wait and come back with a proposal. Post being told no, they then changed the narrative to how they "had" to leave due to a toxic family and UK press.

They "had" to do Oprah and the book/Netflix as Charles cut them off (evidence shows otherwise).

There's no evidence at all they ever paused to consider the long term outcomes.

There is one person in all of this they were unwise to piss off. They though is was The Queen.

But anyone with an eye to the future would have realised the most important person to keep on side was William, because if you play a long game he's the one that really matters. Whatever Charles may do William can undo.

Will William ever welcome them back?

I think for M not a snowball's chance in hell (not that she would want to come back anyway) but I very much doubt he would open his arms again to H.

Maybe he's more forgiving than I would be, but the betrayal by the only person who really understood what you had lived through and who you felt would always have your back must have been profound.

The repeated "stabs" to him and Catherine (remember her being described as a sister to H) demonstrate an utter disregard for those relationships. This wasn't a one off comment but drip feeds of anecdotes and information through Scobie, Spare and their interviews.

Who would welcome that back into their life? Their children's life? To set that as forgivable behaviour?

Truth is W doesn't need H as much as the reverse.

There might forever be a "hole" left but W has got a lot of loyal people around him to fill it, something H is sorely lacking.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 14:39

I don't think the public will follow Charles' lead on this, I think they need to see William's

That's an interesting perspective, @MrsLeonFarrell, especially now William's the direct heir and his father's time is perhaps going to be more limited than some once thought

I'll say yet again that we don't know what's happening behind closed doors, but whether William would be prepared to go along with a "welcome back Harry" from his father remains to be seen
Certainly he's never shied away from being seen to do things his own way - the fact he didn't take over the Prince's Trust is a case in point - and I wouldn't expect him to be railroaded easily

Which could in itself create issues for the family ...

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 14:40

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 13:42

Five episode on Polo seems to me to be four episodes too many. Unless of course they are going down the Real Housewives route, in which case it might do quite well!

The title puts me in mind of a Jilly Cooper style storyline. That would be entertaining!

Abouttimeforanamechange · 29/09/2024 14:45

I think that's either a very naive article or it's been deliberately written to provoke comments.

Another 'testing the water' piece, to gauge what the reaction might be to H attempting a comeback?

I can't see W welcoming fully back into his own family. Aside from the behaviour towards Catherine, which would be reason enough, there's the drug using. Not what you want around your children. Plus H said somewhere he saw it as his duty to protect Charlotte and Louis from the trauma of being Spares, or WTTE. And according to H, W told him his (William's) children were none of H's business. W&C won't want him spewing any of that nonsense around the children.

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 15:06

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 14:39

I don't think the public will follow Charles' lead on this, I think they need to see William's

That's an interesting perspective, @MrsLeonFarrell, especially now William's the direct heir and his father's time is perhaps going to be more limited than some once thought

I'll say yet again that we don't know what's happening behind closed doors, but whether William would be prepared to go along with a "welcome back Harry" from his father remains to be seen
Certainly he's never shied away from being seen to do things his own way - the fact he didn't take over the Prince's Trust is a case in point - and I wouldn't expect him to be railroaded easily

Which could in itself create issues for the family ...

I agree. I have no idea what William is thinking about the situation, or if he even gives it much thought considering everything else that has happened this year.

I always thought that Harry and Meghan were blatant in their defence of first the late Queen and then Charles. It was so obvious that they wanted to keep the Head of the family onside, but they never considered that, with the ages of those involved, keeping William onside was necessary as well. I think that decision will be costly and I suspect it was made by Harry out of what seems to be a lifetime grudge around being the younger brother.

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 15:07

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 14:40

The title puts me in mind of a Jilly Cooper style storyline. That would be entertaining!

It would be if they went down the scandal route, but I expect it will be a worthy and rather dull documentary focusing on polo as a sport.

Triplesec · 29/09/2024 15:08

GiveMeSpanakopita · 28/09/2024 12:35

On the Mr R More story: it is an interesting hallmark of narcissists that they are often more caring (or lovebomb-ey, depending on your perspective) to total or near strangers than they are to their nearest and dearest, whom they frequently treat with callousness and disdain.

Interesting how many people are on record who do not subscribe to the negativity. One named person claimed she was ‘bullying’. It was investigated, the two concerned were unhappy at what Knauf did. And they did not wish to support any action. Case closed. Then years later it is leaked by KP just before the Oprah interview.

The hound dog journos in parts of the UK with their links to Murdoch and the owner of HR create a confusing and weird mashed up hit piece in the HR. We have the editor on record as biased and right wing tweeting nasty things about Harry and Beyoncé. All while the HR is increasingly seen as more like a tabloid these days and moving to reporting on royals and the entertainment side of things. And all of it is immediately lapped up by those who wish to see the claims as true. Sad state of affairs. If you can’t name your source don’t print rubbish.

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 15:09

Triplesec · 29/09/2024 15:08

Interesting how many people are on record who do not subscribe to the negativity. One named person claimed she was ‘bullying’. It was investigated, the two concerned were unhappy at what Knauf did. And they did not wish to support any action. Case closed. Then years later it is leaked by KP just before the Oprah interview.

The hound dog journos in parts of the UK with their links to Murdoch and the owner of HR create a confusing and weird mashed up hit piece in the HR. We have the editor on record as biased and right wing tweeting nasty things about Harry and Beyoncé. All while the HR is increasingly seen as more like a tabloid these days and moving to reporting on royals and the entertainment side of things. And all of it is immediately lapped up by those who wish to see the claims as true. Sad state of affairs. If you can’t name your source don’t print rubbish.

Nice try 👏

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Serenster · 29/09/2024 15:09

It was investigated, the two concerned were unhappy at what Knauf did. And they did not wish to support any action. Case closed

Your source for this is?

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 15:10

Adding. Ironically, given the attempts to smear her, I believe that the person who will have the most influence and is mostly likely to try to calm the family and encourage people to forgive each other is Catherine. She comes from a stable background and seems to have made an effort when they were all younger to include Harry in things with her and William. I can see her offering the hand of friendship way before William.

Uricon2 · 29/09/2024 15:11

Plus H said somewhere he saw it as his duty to protect Charlotte and Louis from the trauma of being Spares,

He really does talk some delusional cobblers, doesn't he?

I don't see William welcoming him back, at all. I suppose he might pay lip service if Charles really wants it, especially in view of his health, but giving Harry a role when he becomes king? Nah. In all this there is also Camilla to consider. She's also been on the receiving end of the spite, vitriol and accusations with no right of reply. I imagine at the very least Charles will take that into account in further dealings.

Yes, trying to keep the 90+ year old late Queen "onside" (although I'm sure she saw through it) while throwing the next 2 Kings and their wives to the wolves was one of the least smart in a catalogue of not smart decisions.

Triplesec · 29/09/2024 15:16

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 15:09

Nice try 👏

The truth never has to try. However, nice try to the industry who continues to attempt to kill off these two. Didn’t work. Will not work.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 29/09/2024 15:22

Yes, trying to keep the 90+ year old late Queen "onside" (although I'm sure she saw through it)

I'm sure that 'making sure she has the right people around her' went down well. (I wonder if that was a swipe at AK, who stood up to him.)

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 15:22

Triplesec · 29/09/2024 15:16

The truth never has to try. However, nice try to the industry who continues to attempt to kill off these two. Didn’t work. Will not work.

No, those two are perfectly capable of managing that all by themselves 😂

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Serenster · 29/09/2024 15:23

The truth never has to try.

Does “the truth” want to give us a the source for its assertions, though….🤣

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 15:24

Well it’s that time, late afternoon and we have a super fan with their attention seeking dial turned up to 11.

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smilesy · 29/09/2024 15:27

Triplesec · 29/09/2024 15:16

The truth never has to try. However, nice try to the industry who continues to attempt to kill off these two. Didn’t work. Will not work.

Is that “the truth” as in “it’s the truth because I said so. So there”? 😂

Hughs · 29/09/2024 15:27

So desperate, I'm cringing 🫣

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