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Continuing HR article, Netflix

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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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upinaballoon · 29/09/2024 08:47

EdithWeston · 28/09/2024 18:25

Agree

For Sophie and Edward, they didn't change the PR, they changed the substance. They ended their outside business interests (they were essentially "half in/half out" and it went very badly wrong) and carried out all the duties assigned to them, and built up charitable expertise. The PR was the same as ever - churning out press releases on what they do (even though for years they had next to no coverage), never did what is now called clapping back, and let the good works and general royalling speak for itself.

Camilla - essentially the same approach. No attempt whatsoever to counter directly the absolutely shitty public perception. Instead it was work on the substance - a small number of good causes and letting it grow over years

I really don't see that their aim is reputation management. It's working on the substance that builds the reputation and the rest will follow

Yes, Edith. I'm catching up so sorry if a few more have said that this is a very good analysis.

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 08:59

Continuing the look at Netflix deal:

Seen this on Reddit. The author an executive producer of Meet me at the Lake:

September 2024 to Rolling Stone Brasil, when asked if she was involved in the film adaptations of her two novels:
I'm an executive producer on both projects. On After That Summer, the writers are writing, it's happening, and I'm really excited. And on Meet Me At The Lake, I can't say much about where things are at, but it's moving forward, and yeah, I'm really happy with both projects.

She sure doesn’t sound excited about Meet Me At The Lake, doesn’t sound like much is happening at all.

Netflix own the rights to the book, not Archewell. So as producer….Meghan may not stick around when the Netflix deal is cancelled. Either way, no movie will be out, or in production by Sept 2025.

So that just leaves the cooking show. Which we are all none the wiser if it will actually air. However, from reading how dire POLO sounds, then I’m guessing they will just show it- if nothing just to fulfil contractual obligations.

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CathyorClaire · 29/09/2024 08:59

myrtleWilson · 28/09/2024 21:27

To paraphrase Oprah "Whaaaaaatttt?" Does Scobie suggest H is some sort of bitcoin supremo?

It was something about Harold having made some canny investments. Only about a sentence and no details.

Maybe it's the tax efficient Archewell?

AutumnCrow · 29/09/2024 09:09

Hollywood and SoCal life in general are not looking too clever these days, following covid, the SAG-WGA strike, and a decade and a half of economic & social instability in the film, tv and streaming worlds. (See link below.)

It’s all about the content, the substance, I agree. H&M don’t have the raw talent, focus, background or skills. They and their paid supporters are actually getting pretty annoying now, and polls bear that out, showing them sitting largely in the spaces of ‘who??’ and ‘no thanks’.

And I doubt H invested in anything sustainable. He’s venal. A scrounger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6er83ene6o

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 09:23

AutumnCrow · 29/09/2024 09:09

Hollywood and SoCal life in general are not looking too clever these days, following covid, the SAG-WGA strike, and a decade and a half of economic & social instability in the film, tv and streaming worlds. (See link below.)

It’s all about the content, the substance, I agree. H&M don’t have the raw talent, focus, background or skills. They and their paid supporters are actually getting pretty annoying now, and polls bear that out, showing them sitting largely in the spaces of ‘who??’ and ‘no thanks’.

And I doubt H invested in anything sustainable. He’s venal. A scrounger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6er83ene6o

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A good read.

Spells disaster for H&M and explains why they have pivoted away from PR about their tv projects….to Harry being a ‘statesman’ (of what state exactly?) and Meghans investments, lifestyle projects (when they aren’t decrying she’s not a bully)

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MrsFinkelstein · 29/09/2024 10:03

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2024 20:46

There's also the point that what he's done once he could do again, whether in partnership with Meghan or not

It's clear by now that he'll claim absolutely anything to get what he wants, but also clear that his story changes when it suits, and I'd expect tthe family to want more stability than that after some of the things they've gone through

Still catching up on the thread, so apologies for late posting.

I can see Harry being "brought back", but only in the sense he's in the same country, living in one of semi-forgotten residences, but not being seen at public events with any of the Senior Royals.

He'll never be a working Royal IMO, and while Andrew seems tolerated and slightly indulged by Charles, I see William as much less forgiving. He's very much Diana's son in this regard, and she was ruthless in never speaking to people who annoyed/offended her. (I don't mean William will necessarily never speak to Harry again (in private), I just mean he will be much more unbending in regards to shutting out those from "the Royal Family" publicly he feels will weaken/undermine it.

IMO William has a very clear view of his duty as King and how "the Monarchy" will work in the 21st century. Harry is and has damaged the Crown, and The Crown will always take precedence.

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 10:07

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/09/2024 20:55

Yes and I think Spare makes it obvious that he had issues before Meghan was on the scene.

Definitely. But with a different wife he may well have been able to get over them or just have them quietly tucked away at the back of his mind. I do think he and Meghan have acted as a catalyst in majorly exacerbating each others issues. With different spouses they may well have been individually ok, hardly wonderful people but no worse than many and certainly not so compellingly self-destructive as they are together.

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/09/2024 10:08

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 10:07

Definitely. But with a different wife he may well have been able to get over them or just have them quietly tucked away at the back of his mind. I do think he and Meghan have acted as a catalyst in majorly exacerbating each others issues. With different spouses they may well have been individually ok, hardly wonderful people but no worse than many and certainly not so compellingly self-destructive as they are together.

Yes, I agree that they don't seem to bring out the best in each other.

Rhaidimiddim · 29/09/2024 10:10

adriftinadenofvipers · 28/09/2024 23:37

But they can't do that - they have already accepted an award for only having 2 children!!

That won't stop them - they've already accepted an award for tackling a racism that they then denied existed.

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 10:10

Rhaidimiddim · 28/09/2024 20:29

Nope. I cannot see this happening. We expect a certain type of behaviour from the RF and H has deviated from this big-time, not least in maligning the British press and public.

If the RF try to slot him back in, there will be serious pushback. Against H in a public role, and against the RF for breaking their (informal social) contract with them public.

If we generally tolerate a constitutional monarchy, we won't tolerate one that expects us to respect H after all he has done.

And they must know that, he has well and truly burnt his bridges. It must make them very sad, especially his father.

JADS · 29/09/2024 10:32

AutumnCrow · 29/09/2024 09:09

Hollywood and SoCal life in general are not looking too clever these days, following covid, the SAG-WGA strike, and a decade and a half of economic & social instability in the film, tv and streaming worlds. (See link below.)

It’s all about the content, the substance, I agree. H&M don’t have the raw talent, focus, background or skills. They and their paid supporters are actually getting pretty annoying now, and polls bear that out, showing them sitting largely in the spaces of ‘who??’ and ‘no thanks’.

And I doubt H invested in anything sustainable. He’s venal. A scrounger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6er83ene6o

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Hollywood imploding is very good news for the UK and Irish film business. There's a lot of filming going on in Pinewood and Elstree.

Netflix throwing all this money around has been really problematic for the industry. Now they are pulling funding (generally), the market will need to adapt.

I didn't realise the Polo thing would be 5 episodes - sounds atrocious. Interesting that Harry is barely involved. He's so happy to protect his privacy while exposing others. Nacho has been used now, I wonder if they stay good buddies.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:04

MrsFinkelstein · 29/09/2024 10:03

Still catching up on the thread, so apologies for late posting.

I can see Harry being "brought back", but only in the sense he's in the same country, living in one of semi-forgotten residences, but not being seen at public events with any of the Senior Royals.

He'll never be a working Royal IMO, and while Andrew seems tolerated and slightly indulged by Charles, I see William as much less forgiving. He's very much Diana's son in this regard, and she was ruthless in never speaking to people who annoyed/offended her. (I don't mean William will necessarily never speak to Harry again (in private), I just mean he will be much more unbending in regards to shutting out those from "the Royal Family" publicly he feels will weaken/undermine it.

IMO William has a very clear view of his duty as King and how "the Monarchy" will work in the 21st century. Harry is and has damaged the Crown, and The Crown will always take precedence.

That's more or less where I'm at too, MrsLF, and I certainly believe that if Harry's going to make any changes to enable his return, he'll be doing it while Charles is still around

As said so often though, we can't know what's going on behind the scenes. I'd have thought it unlikely, but for all we know William might be in touch with him regularly and just not letting it become public while most of the public remain anti

Crabbyappletree · 29/09/2024 11:07

JADS · 29/09/2024 10:32

Hollywood imploding is very good news for the UK and Irish film business. There's a lot of filming going on in Pinewood and Elstree.

Netflix throwing all this money around has been really problematic for the industry. Now they are pulling funding (generally), the market will need to adapt.

I didn't realise the Polo thing would be 5 episodes - sounds atrocious. Interesting that Harry is barely involved. He's so happy to protect his privacy while exposing others. Nacho has been used now, I wonder if they stay good buddies.

You can't really talk about polo without talking about the BRF. I wonder how much footage of his dad and possibly his brother will be included?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:09

Hiji · 28/09/2024 23:13

Do you think @Puzzledandpissedoff that the misprint was deliberate - and if so was it solely to out KC3 & Kate (maybe as legally it was stopped) or was it purely a stunt to whip up sales? Did it say Kate or PoW - as PoW could have been Camilla at the time?

Without actually being able to know I believe it was deliberate, Hiji, and that given the animus at the time it was indeed Catherine who was implicated

IMO that's just about what it would have taken to shut Scobie down permanently, and it's impossible not to notice his silence since

IcedPurple · 29/09/2024 11:18

Twistybranch · 28/09/2024 22:32

Also explains any Nacho was so pally, because Harry gave him his own tv show to star in!

Yes. These celebrity 'friendships' are always transactional.

Nacho may be a big deal in the polo world, but the polo world is tiny. Also, he's 47 so presumably will be retiring soon and needs to cash in while he can. I'd certainly never have heard of him if it weren't for his 'friendship' with Harry.

I agree that the fact that Harry isn't appearing in 'Polo' will damage viewing figures. NF didn't sign these two to make documentaries about niche sports. After all, neither has any relevant experience. They wanted them to be the 'product' themselves, to be in front of the camera. Nobody cares about 'Archewell Productions'.

Also, if 'Heart of Invictus' is anything to go by, Harry will do zero to promote 'Polo'. I bet NF aren't happy about that either.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:19

Profuse apolofies, @MrsFinkelstein; I linkede MrsLeonFarrell in that previous quote and it was you Blush Flowers

Mylovelygreendress · 29/09/2024 11:26

Did I read correctly ? 5 episodes ? Unless each episode is only 10 minutes long, how on earth are they going to fill 5 episodes ??
Someone suggested that there might be footage of Charles and William included but I don’t think even Harry is that stupid .

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Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 11:37

There is so much about them that is murky, money-wise. Its never been got to the bottom of with what happened to the millions Meghan was paid by Disney for doing a voice-over for an elephant documentary. She announced she was donating her fee to the elephant charity featured in the doc, but the charity since said they never received it.

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 11:39

IcedPurple · 29/09/2024 11:18

Yes. These celebrity 'friendships' are always transactional.

Nacho may be a big deal in the polo world, but the polo world is tiny. Also, he's 47 so presumably will be retiring soon and needs to cash in while he can. I'd certainly never have heard of him if it weren't for his 'friendship' with Harry.

I agree that the fact that Harry isn't appearing in 'Polo' will damage viewing figures. NF didn't sign these two to make documentaries about niche sports. After all, neither has any relevant experience. They wanted them to be the 'product' themselves, to be in front of the camera. Nobody cares about 'Archewell Productions'.

Also, if 'Heart of Invictus' is anything to go by, Harry will do zero to promote 'Polo'. I bet NF aren't happy about that either.

Seemingly Nacho isn’t a top ranked player at all and at 47, maybe his heartthrob image is over. 10 years ago maybe.

But it explains why he made that stupid insta post of him eating Meghans ARO jam on some toast…..he knows what side his bread is buttered!! 😉

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Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 11:46

Alectoishome · 29/09/2024 11:37

There is so much about them that is murky, money-wise. Its never been got to the bottom of with what happened to the millions Meghan was paid by Disney for doing a voice-over for an elephant documentary. She announced she was donating her fee to the elephant charity featured in the doc, but the charity since said they never received it.

It’s all just a tax dodge.

When have they ever given out large sums of money. A few $10k here and there but that’s it.

Yet they have MILLIONS sitting there. $16 million?

I hope someone investigates how much they have actually given out. Max $250k I say.

Actually vile

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:46

The entire family are dubious when it comes to financial accountability, @Twistybranch, but while I'd expect nothing other than further murkiness I'd be more interested to know where these "new" millions came from in the first place

Hard to believe it's any of the US big hitters now most seem to have gone AWOL (though I believe Tyler Perry's still around?) so I'm back to wondering if dad's still funding them - or more likely us, given Charles's taste for charging whatever he can to the public purse

When have they ever given out large sums of money. A few $10k here and there but that’s it

Edited to add that even this is often in "partnership" with other organisations ... or in other words they cough up the money and H&M provide the profile (or did, when their involvement was worth having)

cheezncrackers · 29/09/2024 11:50

New article about Meghan as a boss in The Times today. This is the archive link for anyone who doesn't have a subscription:

archive.is/VYF2l

Twistybranch · 29/09/2024 11:52

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:46

The entire family are dubious when it comes to financial accountability, @Twistybranch, but while I'd expect nothing other than further murkiness I'd be more interested to know where these "new" millions came from in the first place

Hard to believe it's any of the US big hitters now most seem to have gone AWOL (though I believe Tyler Perry's still around?) so I'm back to wondering if dad's still funding them - or more likely us, given Charles's taste for charging whatever he can to the public purse

When have they ever given out large sums of money. A few $10k here and there but that’s it

Edited to add that even this is often in "partnership" with other organisations ... or in other words they cough up the money and H&M provide the profile (or did, when their involvement was worth having)

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I think that it’s them putting the money in, to tax dodge.

They use these philanthropic comapnies as a cover to disguise their name.

I can’t see anybody anonymously donating millions and millions when Archewell doesn’t have a history of handing out large donations. They hand out tiny sums. If even that. Didn’t they hand out drums and other musical equipment on their Colombia trip?

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MrsFinkelstein · 29/09/2024 11:56

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/09/2024 11:19

Profuse apolofies, @MrsFinkelstein; I linkede MrsLeonFarrell in that previous quote and it was you Blush Flowers

No worries, I knew what you meant 🙂

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