Continuing HR article, Netflix

[Twistybranch]

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Huh? Prince Harry himself claims he has mental problems. What’s your point?

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Meghan Markle isn’t reading Mumsnet as a busy young mum of two littles in Montecito whose husband is away Prince-ing for work. And who is dealing with a large publicity problem. I think you can stand down. She’ll be safe from the posters on this thread.

If you like, though, you can ask her if she’s ok, because not a lot of people do. You might receive a basket of lemons for your efforts - but only if you publicize her word-salad reply to you after the event, and ideally look instgrammable as she bestows it upon you, in a way that might help rehabilitate her reputation once she’s sold the rights to the photo. Mind how you speak, though, you don’t want to risk being ghosted after the effort you will have made for her. Apparently she’s wont to do that.

But now she is widely coming across as unlikable, isolated and unhappy surely there is no way she can now pull off a chatty cooking show hosting friends or sell us candle sticks so we feel like we're living a bit like the Sussex's?
But what "friends" will want to be associated with her now?

Whatever people need to tell themselves to feel okay about getting their laughs, and false sense of community, from tearing apart a woman for years on end, right?

Whether Meghan Markle reads it or not, is not the point.

As was pointed out by some on here when many posters were ripping into Catherine and William earlier in the year with all sorts of accusations. Catherine wouldn’t have been reading it would she?

One rule for one woman, another rule for the other.

I don’t come into this board often, I didn’t read those threads. I’m not that interested in Catherine or William and I don’t have any rules for either woman. They’re not that important to me 🤷🏻‍♀️. I don’t think these comments tear or rip anyone apart, I don’t feel any sense of community with the posters on this board (I’m about as anti-monarchy as it’s possible to be) and I don’t find any of what Harry and Meghan have done remotely funny.

If you choose to put yourself into the public arena as both Catherine and Meghan have done, you have to know people will have opinions or commentary. If they don’t want to hear it, they don’t need to read it. They can put the phone away, close the laptop. Better still, stay out of the public arena. Billions of people do.

Suggesting that an audience keep its opinions about public figures to itself is an affront to the public, as well as hypocritical, and deceitful. And why? Why shouldn’t I take a critical eye to what I see? Why do you want me to only say nice things? This isn’t Disneyland, and heaven help us if anyone thinks that’s what we should be aspiring to.

I wonder if she learned this behaviour when she spent time on her father’s sets when he was a lighting director. As a child, did she see people being treated like minions, shouted and and humiliated? She seems to have a very skewed idea of what leadership and power is all about .

I agree with this. Anyone who would ask Jimmy Saville for marriage counselling isn’t any sort of judge of character.

Suggesting that an audience keep its opinions about public figures to itself is an affront to the public, as well as hypocritical, and deceitful. And why? Why shouldn’t I take a critical eye to what I see? Why do you want me to only say nice things? This isn’t Disneyland, and heaven help us if anyone thinks that’s what we should be aspiring to.

But I didn’t say that. You’ve exaggerated and extrapolated. Much like the continuously recycled posts on here that are aimed at Meghan.

This thread is about the HR article reporting Meghan's bullying of staff.

Is it ok to have a thread about that or should everyone pretend it doesn't exist?
If we are allowed to talk about it, is it ok if posters express negative opinions on Meghan's bullying or should everyone dismiss the allegations or make excuses for her behaviour?

If Meghan and her supporters don't want people to criticise her for bullying, there is a simple way to avoid that.

I have often thought that this is a genuine problem for Meghan. She has no idea what a manager is or how to manage anyone. Why would she? It’s not her background. Unfortunately, she would seem to have form for not listening to advice (hit the ground running, not wanting to be mentored by other members of the RF etc), and seems to always think she is right (everything is everyone else’s fault) and doesn’t appear to learn from anything. How would all that enable her to be a good manager?

I do remember another poster too who pointed out that you don’t have to be a skilled manager to treat people as human beings though. She doesn’t appear to be good at that either

I honestly have no idea why they need so many staff, and I do think that what they seem to want from their staff is unrealistic. They need to appear to be philanthropists, royalty/VIP, in high demand, award winners, and global ambassadors and all of this whilst creating earning opportunities to earn a shitload of money.. generally the money comes first and then you can do the rest and for the needs of Harry that would be in the hundreds os millions. They seem to want to be better than what they left and forgetting the maths of the billion pounds assets that fund the royal family.

That is toe-curling. There must genuinely be something wrong with her. I've heard people say narcissitic personality disorder, sociopath, some kind of neurodiversity - could be a combination of more than one thing. It is interesting, there definitely must be something going on with her as its not like she's thick, she's average/normal intelligence. She doesn't seem normal to me, and I wouldn't say that lightly about anyone.

But why is her emotional intelligence so bad, that's what I find fascinating. I get her family are completely dysfunctional and likely never communicated effectively, displayed some toxic behaviour etc. But that's true for so many people, and they go on to manage ok. Her mum abandoning her but have had its effect, but again lots of children are abandoned by a parent - usually the father.
And the fact that her emotional intelligence is so spectacularly bad - how is she sustaining her marriage? Marriage is not alwsys easy even when both of you have good emotional intelligence and are genuinely nice people.

Those threads and comments came at a time when it was known that Kate was ill and recovering from surgery and a few of the gems were DV from William towards her, scurrilous affair rumours based on nothing, accusations of idleness and that she was not unwell but covering up cosmetic surgery. We now know she had cancer.

There are plenty of unpleasant and unsubstantiated rumours around about both Harry and Meghan, have been for years, but they are rarely repeated here and given very short shrift when they are. Criticism of their own recorded words and actions is not the same.

Sunsetand · Yesterday 23:42
Yet another day of bullying Meghan Markle on the internet has come to a close.

Oh, the irony, as they say. This post made me spit out my coffee!

One rule for one woman, another rule for the other.

I'm not so sure that's true on MN.
When there have been obviously made-up rumours about Meghan, like the ideas about surrogacy and moon bumps, they've been squashed and derided here for the obvious nonsense they are by posters who generally don't support M&H.
I don't remember ever seeing something similar posted about made-up rumours about Catherine, like the ideas about DV and "she's not ill she's hiding because <insert stupid idea here>" by H&M supporters.

I think @Allthegoodnamesarechosen is on the right lines. Whatever happens, their directions will be separate. And it's sad. Sad that 2 people with potential, money and lots of well wishers have mucked it up. Not Buckingham Palace. Not the media. Not their staff. Harry & Meghan.

And of course it's saddest of all for their children. I suspect that in the short term at least, they will stay together and focus on new projects. But I can see a repeat of the ugly "war of the Wales' " when Charles & Diana's friends briefed the media against each other before HMQ more or less ordered them to stop it and separate.

Meghan will not be happy if Harry's activities generate more headlines than hers. And I can only imagine what a battering her mental health has taken in the past few weeks. She might be the architect of many of her own misfortunes, but I hope she is able to get good support and find some peace. I don't know how you advise someone who doesn't seem to listen to others, but I really hope someone can get through to her.

I honestly have no idea why they need so many staff, and I do think that what they seem to want from their staff is unrealistic.

Well, if you’re Meghan and you are apparently spending every day preparing delicious meals for your staff, sourcing fabulous gifts for them online, making up gift baskets, ringing everyone who is sick on a daily basis to check they are okay, writing copious thank you notes with exquisite penmanship, tending to your rescue hens, making jam and (presumably) spending time with your husband and children, I guess you don’t have much time to actually produce content for Netflix, Lemonada or ARO….

(Also, with the best will int he world, neither Meghan or Harry had the skills and experience to produce tv shows and podcasts etc, or to run the operations of a charitable foundation, so they needed to buy that expertise in).

Meghan will not be happy if Harry's activities generate more headlines than hers. And I can only imagine what a battering her mental health has taken in the past few weeks. She might be the architect of many of her own misfortunes, but I hope she is able to get good support and find some peace. I don't know how you advise someone who doesn't seem to listen to others, but I really hope someone can get through to her.

@Citrusandginger I agree, and the problem Meghan will have (I imagine) is that she's clearly been very nasty to a lot of people on her ruthless way up the greasy pole, and those people will stick the knife in - or at least, not rally round with support. I don't think the same will be true for Harry. He's just not very bright, but I don't think he will have made enemies in the way that Meghan probably has.

I’m guessing an awful lot of their interaction is based on a joint victim mentality. Talking about the awful Press, his awful family, poring over stuff online about themselves. Discussing their staff and how they need to be doing more and better. I honestly fail to see what they do all day long in their mansion. They’re very isolated from the real world and old friends. It’s just grasping at opportunities to appear like A list celebrities , lots of phone calls to try and drum up favours . What a way to spend your life. No sort of role model for their kids either.

But you're here to rush to the defence of your royal heroine, so it's not all bad news!

I mean, someone has to stop her being 'bullied' over repeated, consistent, accusations of bullying on both sides of the Atlantic. None of which she has denied. I guess she has her fangirls to do that for her.

Also for those that choose to over look PH hideous behaviour to his family over the last 5 years - he also carries the potential for association with the RF for those grasping for / impressed by status.

MM on the other hand is just the washed up cable actress with zero future in Hollywood - no benefit for the arselickers associating there.

KC3 grabbed a valet by the throat…

https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/king-charles-temper-aides-concerned-about-future-stability-monarchy

I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone.

@Triplesec "I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone"

Well, past allegations from BP staff aside, the Hollywood Reporter clearly thinks differently. Not a British tabloid, not Murdoch press, and I very much doubt they would have printed the claims of US staff without being pretty convinced that there had been bullying. It's more than a disgruntled employee with an axe to grind, that's for certain.

Or do you think they decided to print it for the giggles, knowing that if they'd got it wrong they could face expensive litigation?