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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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Twistybranch · 26/09/2024 18:38

Serenster · 26/09/2024 17:07

I have gone back and looked at the Five Friends article in People in 2019 - where five of Meghan’s friends “spontaneously” went to People to set the record straight about the press coverage Meghan was receiving, and her relationship with her family. Reading it now, the quotes and themes sound…awfully familiar to her former employees current quotes. So clearly she had used her preferred PR tactic previously, even when the Palace Comms team wouldn’t do so.

An L.A. friend recalls spending a few days together while Harry was out of town: "In the room she made up for me, there was a candle lit by the bed, cookies by the bed, slippers and a robe. We were the only two in the house. It was our time. She made the most lovely meals. She made tea every day. It was raining and muddy outside, so the dogs got all dirty, and she's wiping them off with towels. How much she loves her animals, how much she loves her friends, how much she loves feeding you, taking care of you—none of that has changed."

"I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Meg is a team player," says the Duchess of Sussex's former costar. "But even when she takes a back seat, she’s a leader of group morale. She would always do spirit boosters for the crew on-set—for example, having gourmet burgers delivered."

"She sends so many thank-you notes, all in her beautiful penmanship," says her L.A. friend. "In any room she's very conscious of making sure everyone's included. There are people who have met her once, even years and years ago, and they always remember exactly where they were when they met her and exactly what the conversation was, because she so thoroughly engages."

"She is one of the most selfless people I know," says her former colleague. "A couple years ago, my son was at the beginning of a special-needs diagnosis. Meg screeched her life to a halt and used every resource she could muster for me: got me into a doctor in L.A., got me alternative doctors, called me, sent things to my hotel room. It was like a five-alarm-fire focus of her life to help me and support me."

I have no doubt she did all these things.

But that is completely unsustainable and akin to love bombing. Nobody can possibly keep up that level of intensity with everyone around them.

Therefore, a chosen few will have the warm sunlight shined on them….others will be out in the cold and treated like shit.

Both can be true at the same time. She can do all these over the top, performative gestures ensuring what @Onlyonekenobe said, that all attention is on her. That she’s the ‘best’ colleague , boss, friend, neighbour. It’s competitive perfectionism, designed to show that she’s better at life than you.

What I find interesting, is why she didn’t go all out for meeting William and Kate, or Charles and Camilla? She pointedly didnt curtesy for camilla but did for Charles. Personally, I think Harry set her off in the wrong foot. His insecurities meant he didn’t want her feeling like she had to prove her worth etc….but the one way she charms (through these creepy gestures) didn’t happen. She looked rude from the start and never recovered.

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Twistybranch · 26/09/2024 18:38

Serenster · 26/09/2024 17:07

I have gone back and looked at the Five Friends article in People in 2019 - where five of Meghan’s friends “spontaneously” went to People to set the record straight about the press coverage Meghan was receiving, and her relationship with her family. Reading it now, the quotes and themes sound…awfully familiar to her former employees current quotes. So clearly she had used her preferred PR tactic previously, even when the Palace Comms team wouldn’t do so.

An L.A. friend recalls spending a few days together while Harry was out of town: "In the room she made up for me, there was a candle lit by the bed, cookies by the bed, slippers and a robe. We were the only two in the house. It was our time. She made the most lovely meals. She made tea every day. It was raining and muddy outside, so the dogs got all dirty, and she's wiping them off with towels. How much she loves her animals, how much she loves her friends, how much she loves feeding you, taking care of you—none of that has changed."

"I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Meg is a team player," says the Duchess of Sussex's former costar. "But even when she takes a back seat, she’s a leader of group morale. She would always do spirit boosters for the crew on-set—for example, having gourmet burgers delivered."

"She sends so many thank-you notes, all in her beautiful penmanship," says her L.A. friend. "In any room she's very conscious of making sure everyone's included. There are people who have met her once, even years and years ago, and they always remember exactly where they were when they met her and exactly what the conversation was, because she so thoroughly engages."

"She is one of the most selfless people I know," says her former colleague. "A couple years ago, my son was at the beginning of a special-needs diagnosis. Meg screeched her life to a halt and used every resource she could muster for me: got me into a doctor in L.A., got me alternative doctors, called me, sent things to my hotel room. It was like a five-alarm-fire focus of her life to help me and support me."

I have no doubt she did all these things.

But that is completely unsustainable and akin to love bombing. Nobody can possibly keep up that level of intensity with everyone around them.

Therefore, a chosen few will have the warm sunlight shined on them….others will be out in the cold and treated like shit.

Both can be true at the same time. She can do all these over the top, performative gestures ensuring what @Onlyonekenobe said, that all attention is on her. That she’s the ‘best’ colleague , boss, friend, neighbour. It’s competitive perfectionism, designed to show that she’s better at life than you.

What I find interesting, is why she didn’t go all out for meeting William and Kate, or Charles and Camilla? She pointedly didnt curtesy for camilla but did for Charles. Personally, I think Harry set her off on the wrong foot. His insecurities meant he didn’t want her feeling like she had to prove her worth etc….but the one way she charms (through these creepy gestures) didn’t happen. She looked rude from the start and never recovered.

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BasiliskStare · 26/09/2024 18:41

I sounds like M hasn't cottoned on to , to be assertive , you also should be respectful , professional and polite - rather than going all shouty crackers. Some of those utter untruths she told during the OW interview I cannot believe she has never rescinded. I think I have said this before but that woman , my Granny would have said , has more front than Blackpool.

smilesy · 26/09/2024 18:55

She pointedly didnt curtesy for camilla but did for Charles

She does not want to be seen as lower in status to any other woman. Hence the jealousy and spitefulness towards the Princess of Wales. Men, on the other hand, she tries to charm and look vulnerable towards

typo

Uricon2 · 26/09/2024 19:44

smilesy · 26/09/2024 18:55

She pointedly didnt curtesy for camilla but did for Charles

She does not want to be seen as lower in status to any other woman. Hence the jealousy and spitefulness towards the Princess of Wales. Men, on the other hand, she tries to charm and look vulnerable towards

typo

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I've always thought women who deliberately make much capital of their fragile vulnerability and back it up with talk of how much they care, with adoring looks sprinkled on as needed, are in reality about as "vulnerable" as large and very hungry saltwater crocodiles.

Makingwaves2 · 26/09/2024 20:03

smilesy · 26/09/2024 18:55

She pointedly didnt curtesy for camilla but did for Charles

She does not want to be seen as lower in status to any other woman. Hence the jealousy and spitefulness towards the Princess of Wales. Men, on the other hand, she tries to charm and look vulnerable towards

typo

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I dunno. She didnt try to charm William.

wordler · 26/09/2024 20:10

Makingwaves2 · 26/09/2024 20:03

I dunno. She didnt try to charm William.

I suspect she did to begin with...

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Hiji · 26/09/2024 20:14

wordler · 26/09/2024 20:10

I suspect she did to begin with...

Agree in the early days I think there is a photo from Christmas day church of the fluttering lashes, doe-eyed fawning.

Makingwaves2 · 26/09/2024 20:16

Hiji · 26/09/2024 20:14

Agree in the early days I think there is a photo from Christmas day church of the fluttering lashes, doe-eyed fawning.

Yes maybe. I can’t imagine he would have been taken in.

Alectoishome · 26/09/2024 20:19

Hiji · 26/09/2024 20:14

Agree in the early days I think there is a photo from Christmas day church of the fluttering lashes, doe-eyed fawning.

Theres footage somewhere of her hanging about for her and then scurrying to walk next to him.. he makes a real palaver of fixing his scarf, drags it out for over a minute to avoid having to engage with her.
I've always suspected part of her dislike of Catherine is that she got the heir, I'm sure Meghan couldn't help reflecting that she would have made a much better Queen.

CathyorClaire · 26/09/2024 20:56

Alectoishome · 26/09/2024 16:47

The way she spoke about her wedding o disdainfully and scathingly on OW was sickening. The wedding she made damn sure cost the UK taxpayers as many millions as possible. In a country where we have had forced austerity for years and so many families living in poverty.

100% agree.

Utterly nauseating how the needlessly overblown wedding costs escaped scrutiny while the far less costly (but equally nauseating) Frogmore 'repayment' con got the headlines.

Harold should have been sent the bill tracked delivery straight after the Oprah farce.

CathyorClaire · 26/09/2024 21:09

She already has a deal with Penguin Random House, or rather she and he jointly.

Her part of the book deal book was rumoured to be some kind of wellness manual ('cos there aren't enough of those already).

Harold sold but didn't increase profits.

Rachel may well squawk and I don't doubt she has profitable dirt to sell but I'd be surprised if PRH get close to even sniffing it.

smilesy · 26/09/2024 21:15

wordler · 26/09/2024 20:10

I suspect she did to begin with...

Yes I think she did to. This may well have increased Catherine’s wariness of her as well. I think she fairly swiftly discovered that William had her number in the same way most of the family did. I think Charles was probably more inclined to give her the benefit to the doubt because she seemed to
make Harry happy

Bontonbonbon · 26/09/2024 21:32

@serenster The quotes from that article only convince me more that she is a narcissist. It all sounds like classic love bombing/ attention seeking behaviour. And as people have already pointed out: none of that means she isn’t capable of being a class A bitch to anyone who annoys her.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/09/2024 21:34

I think Charles was probably more inclined to give her the benefit to the doubt because she seemed to make Harry happy

As much as I like Charles I don’t think he is always the best judge of character, I think he would have been taken in by her fake superficial charm and wouldn’t have seen the true character that lies beneath the fakery, fortunately William is the complete opposite to Charles and can spot a manipulative narcissist a mile off.

CoffeeCantata · 26/09/2024 21:39

I've always thought women who deliberately make much capital of their fragile vulnerability and back it up with talk of how much they care, with adoring looks sprinkled on as needed, are in reality about as "vulnerable" as large and very hungry saltwater crocodiles.

Spot on, Uricon!

It's analagous to the way, when cosmetic companies want to show 'sensitive skin', they show an immaculate porcelain complexion. In fact, sensitive skin is blotchy, spotty and generally not a pretty sight!

I've met people very like Meghan, and they are not vulnerable, sensitive (except where they themselves are concerned) or helpless. Very far from it!

CoffeeCantata · 26/09/2024 21:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/09/2024 21:34

I think Charles was probably more inclined to give her the benefit to the doubt because she seemed to make Harry happy

As much as I like Charles I don’t think he is always the best judge of character, I think he would have been taken in by her fake superficial charm and wouldn’t have seen the true character that lies beneath the fakery, fortunately William is the complete opposite to Charles and can spot a manipulative narcissist a mile off.

I agree. I like Charles - his heart is in the right place in many ways but:

  • he's a sentimental old codger
  • he clearly feels a lot of guilt about Harry (and William) because of his failed marriage to their mother
  • he's susceptible to feminine charm...so may have been better-disposed towards the lethally-dangerous Meghan than, say, William, who seems to have got her number from quite early on.
MummyJ12 · 26/09/2024 21:59

Serenster · 26/09/2024 17:07

I have gone back and looked at the Five Friends article in People in 2019 - where five of Meghan’s friends “spontaneously” went to People to set the record straight about the press coverage Meghan was receiving, and her relationship with her family. Reading it now, the quotes and themes sound…awfully familiar to her former employees current quotes. So clearly she had used her preferred PR tactic previously, even when the Palace Comms team wouldn’t do so.

An L.A. friend recalls spending a few days together while Harry was out of town: "In the room she made up for me, there was a candle lit by the bed, cookies by the bed, slippers and a robe. We were the only two in the house. It was our time. She made the most lovely meals. She made tea every day. It was raining and muddy outside, so the dogs got all dirty, and she's wiping them off with towels. How much she loves her animals, how much she loves her friends, how much she loves feeding you, taking care of you—none of that has changed."

"I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Meg is a team player," says the Duchess of Sussex's former costar. "But even when she takes a back seat, she’s a leader of group morale. She would always do spirit boosters for the crew on-set—for example, having gourmet burgers delivered."

"She sends so many thank-you notes, all in her beautiful penmanship," says her L.A. friend. "In any room she's very conscious of making sure everyone's included. There are people who have met her once, even years and years ago, and they always remember exactly where they were when they met her and exactly what the conversation was, because she so thoroughly engages."

"She is one of the most selfless people I know," says her former colleague. "A couple years ago, my son was at the beginning of a special-needs diagnosis. Meg screeched her life to a halt and used every resource she could muster for me: got me into a doctor in L.A., got me alternative doctors, called me, sent things to my hotel room. It was like a five-alarm-fire focus of her life to help me and support me."

You’re absolutely correct about this. It’s because the same two people are behind both articles. Meghan and Dan Wakeford.
Dan Wakeford worked as editor-in-chief at People before heading up US weekly (to salvage its reputation).

StartupRepair · 26/09/2024 22:48

When I think of Meghan as a people manager she never had staff until she married Harry. She was a client of various pr companies etc but had no employees. There was Harry with his own team and office and suddenly she had a whole crew to direct and clearly doesn't have a clue how to lead or manage people. Lack of emotional intelligence means that she has no strategies beyond either yelling and belittling or bestowing presents and being over the top gushing.
I can imagine Kate and William 's dawning horror at her behaviour.

Triplesec · 26/09/2024 23:05

100%

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coolmum123 · 26/09/2024 23:06

Serenster · 26/09/2024 17:07

I have gone back and looked at the Five Friends article in People in 2019 - where five of Meghan’s friends “spontaneously” went to People to set the record straight about the press coverage Meghan was receiving, and her relationship with her family. Reading it now, the quotes and themes sound…awfully familiar to her former employees current quotes. So clearly she had used her preferred PR tactic previously, even when the Palace Comms team wouldn’t do so.

An L.A. friend recalls spending a few days together while Harry was out of town: "In the room she made up for me, there was a candle lit by the bed, cookies by the bed, slippers and a robe. We were the only two in the house. It was our time. She made the most lovely meals. She made tea every day. It was raining and muddy outside, so the dogs got all dirty, and she's wiping them off with towels. How much she loves her animals, how much she loves her friends, how much she loves feeding you, taking care of you—none of that has changed."

"I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Meg is a team player," says the Duchess of Sussex's former costar. "But even when she takes a back seat, she’s a leader of group morale. She would always do spirit boosters for the crew on-set—for example, having gourmet burgers delivered."

"She sends so many thank-you notes, all in her beautiful penmanship," says her L.A. friend. "In any room she's very conscious of making sure everyone's included. There are people who have met her once, even years and years ago, and they always remember exactly where they were when they met her and exactly what the conversation was, because she so thoroughly engages."

"She is one of the most selfless people I know," says her former colleague. "A couple years ago, my son was at the beginning of a special-needs diagnosis. Meg screeched her life to a halt and used every resource she could muster for me: got me into a doctor in L.A., got me alternative doctors, called me, sent things to my hotel room. It was like a five-alarm-fire focus of her life to help me and support me."

I feel ill. That sounds so fake and contrived.

Sunsetand · 26/09/2024 23:42

Yet another day of bullying Meghan Markle on the internet has come to a close.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/09/2024 00:02

Harry’s planning his escape route. He will blame the entire catastrophe on Meghan. He’s flying solo because he wants out before he receives his next tranche of family money.

Meanwhile, Meghan will announce :

She is having a serious mental health crisis@# a result of people being so horrid to her, and he is ignoring it, which we know runs in his family ( according to Meghan and indeed Harry soi-même)

or

She will be revealed to be ‘pregnant ‘ and advised to take it easy with travelling and public appearances ( ref: Catherine who had difficult pregnancies which restricted her public engagements)

or

She will claim to be seriously physically unwell ( after all, most of the world were very sympathetic in those circumstances to her main enemy Catherine, so why not to her?)

But Harry doesn’t care: he wants to go back to Britain where he is automatically on the A list, and takes priority over virtually everyone else in the room, where people have to call him Sir. Or at least, that’s how it used to be before he screwed up so spectacularly, but I expect he thinks that that can all be blamed on Meghan and her malign control of a man in his late thirties who claims to have killed quite a few people.

’The grown men in tears’ and ‘terrified’ is not an accident of reportage imho, it’s the main point of the exposée .

ClosingTheDoorOnThePast · 27/09/2024 00:03

Makingwaves2 · 25/09/2024 12:59

Agree with all this. It reminds of distributing a few backpacks with snacks to the homeless whilst being filmed , to appear empathetic. Just so wide of the mark it’s breathtaking.

I remember this. She wrote on all the bananas with a sharpie inspirational messages saying things like "You've got this". To homeless people in their food parcels. I knew then that she was way off the mark and would never make it in the royal family.

forevernumb · 27/09/2024 00:11

I can't see Harry and her splitting up and the last thing the UK needs is that whiney baby back.

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