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Continuing HR article, Netflix

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Twistybranch · 21/09/2024 10:31

See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Has Hollywood turned on the Sussexes? Industry bigwigs reveal all

Days after a ­brutal take-down in The Hollywood Reporter, which labelled Meghan as 'Duchess Difficult', neither she nor Harry attended her talent agent's Emmys after party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

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Hiji · 27/09/2024 11:13

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 10:48

KC3 grabbed a valet by the throat…

https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/king-charles-temper-aides-concerned-about-future-stability-monarchy

I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone.

Wow thats some publication....this is what they covered on H&Mover the last 2 weeks alone:

Meghan Markle and Sarah Ferguson Blasted as 'Complete Frauds' Who Have No Business Being Famous: 'They're Just Grifters'

Meghan Markle and Sarah Ferguson Blasted as 'Complete Frauds' Who Have N...
The Queen 'is spinning in her grave.'

Sussex American Dream on the Rocks: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's 'Perfect Bubble' Set to Burst as 'Grifters' 'Aren't Built' for Hollywood

Sussex American Dream on the Rocks: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's 'Pe...
It's a wrap in Tinseltown for Team Sussex.

Prince Harry's Montecito Inner Circle: Duke's 'Hand-Picked Second Family' Shows Rebel Royal 'Needs Support' as Spare Heir 'Feels Isolated'

Prince Harry's Montecito Inner Circle: Duke's 'Hand-Picked Second Family...
Harry's 40th birthday 'lad's day out' trip details revealed.

Prince Harry's Lonely Quest: 'New Meaning' Needed for 'Cause-Collecting' Duke as Meghan Markle Opts Out of Duke's Solo Trips

Prince Harry's Lonely Quest: 'New Meaning' Needed for 'Cause-Collecting'...
Harry seeks to 'find himself.'

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Are Struggling to Accept They're 'Genuinely Disliked' in Hollywood

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Are Struggling to Accept They're 'Genuine...
According to a source, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are struggling withe being 'disliked' in Hollywood.

Hollywood's Royal Rejects: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Face Waning Influence in Tinseltown Thanks to Major Publication 'Hit Piece'

Hollywood's Royal Rejects: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Face Waning In...
The Sussex struggle is real.

Royal Reality Check: Meghan Markle's 'Arrogant' Disney Princess Dreams Crumbled in the Harsh Reality of Crown's Lifetime of Duty

Royal Reality Check: Meghan Markle's 'Arrogant' Disney Princess Dreams C...
'She thought it was all like Ariel in a Disney movie,' a royal insider observed.

Prince Harry Gets the Royal Flush: No Meeting or 'Call-Up' From King Charles or Prince William During Rebel Duke's Upcoming U.K. Trip

Prince Harry Gets the Royal Flush: No Meeting or 'Call-Up' From King Cha...
So much for happy birthday...

Meghan Markle's 'Puppet' Duke: Prince Harry 'Deprived of Freedom' as Duchess Makes 'Man Baby' Royal 'Dependent' on Her

Meghan Markle's 'Puppet' Duke: Prince Harry 'Deprived of Freedom' as Duc...
Harry is 'putty in Meghan's hands.'

Sussex Neighbors Revolt: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Nearby Residents 'Fed Up' With 'Faux' Royals and Tell Pair to 'Move On'

Sussex Neighbors Revolt: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Nearby Residents...
Never p--- off the neighbors.

prince harry

Sussex Neighbors Revolt: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Nearby Residents 'Fed Up' With 'Faux' Royals and Tell Pair to 'Move On'

Never p--- off the neighbors.

https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/prince-harry-meghan-markle-nearby-residents-fed-up-royals

IcedPurple · 27/09/2024 11:14

Uricon2 · 27/09/2024 11:10

@Triplesec "I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone"

Well, past allegations from BP staff aside, the Hollywood Reporter clearly thinks differently. Not a British tabloid, not Murdoch press, and I very much doubt they would have printed the claims of US staff without being pretty convinced that there had been bullying. It's more than a disgruntled employee with an axe to grind, that's for certain.

Or do you think they decided to print it for the giggles, knowing that if they'd got it wrong they could face expensive litigation?

I guess the gold standard for proving allegations of this nature is a single article on some weird website nobody has ever heard of.

In any case, Charles could be the worst bully in the world for all it matters. It has no relevance to the allegations against Meghan one way or the other.

Uricon2 · 27/09/2024 11:18

Scraping the bottom of the barrel of whataboutery, @IcedPurple

@Hiji that is certainly an...interesting..publication!

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 11:20

Triplesec · Today 10:48

I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone.

This is on a par with believing that the moon landings were faked. Can you tell us more (in your own words, not boring/dodgy links) about how you manage to sustain such a blind faith in the face of overwhelming evidence?

I am genuinely interested to understand.

IcedPurple · 27/09/2024 11:22

Uricon2 · 27/09/2024 11:18

Scraping the bottom of the barrel of whataboutery, @IcedPurple

@Hiji that is certainly an...interesting..publication!

Nobody has yet been able to explain why a reputable Hollywood publication would print false allegations about a former cable TV actress.

Or why someone as litigious as said former cable TV actress has not denied these very damaging allegations.

Citrusandginger · 27/09/2024 11:24

@coffee I can just about see the how people are suspicious of the moon landings.

But if someone has been called a bully many times in many places, I believe the victims.

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 11:33

There must genuinely be something wrong with her. I've heard people say narcissitic personality disorder, sociopath, some kind of neurodiversity - could be a combination of more than one thing. It is interesting, there definitely must be something going on with her as its not like she's thick, she's average/normal intelligence. She doesn't seem normal to me, and I wouldn't say that lightly about anyone.

She's fascinating (horribly, I admit) partly because of her jaw-dropping, textbook narcissism - it's rare to see it exemplified so blatantly in real life.

I suspect her childhood experience of Hollywood film-sets has skewed her attitudes and personality considerably, It's a shallow world where superficial appearance and behaviour is what you are judged on. She will have seen gushing, insincere behaviour from film-folk - all actors will tell you that they need to establish close, even intimate, relationships with their colleagues almost instantly, and this is how it works - the old 'Darling!' culture, though that's more British. Then, when the filming is done, most of them go their separate ways and these 'friendships' evaporate.

She'll also have seen at close hand the importance of hierarchy in terms of star-rating - and the inevitable jealousies and jockeying for status - maybe even learned that the way for women to climb the greasy pole is the old, traditional one of using their sexuality.

Clearly Meghan's family are a strange lot, and that's putting it mildly, and she hasn't fallen far from the tree. Where WAS Doria, during those years? So bizarre that's been successfully suppressed - was it the RF/secret service who have helped to keep this quiet? I feel sorry for M's father - her treatment of him (on the face of it) seems appalling.

MummyJ12 · 27/09/2024 11:35

I don’t for one second believe that Meghan bullied anyone.

Of course you don’t @Triplesec because that would make you question the past few years you’ve spent adoring and probably defending vehemently this person who isn’t who you thought she was. You’re invested.

The unfortunate facts for fans and supporters of hers are that you’ve been had and she is a bully who will manipulate, use people and lie for her own benefit. THR has 12 affidavits from people who are or have been employed by the Sussexes. I think they know more about their experiences than you do. But you do you. Don’t let the facts get in the way.

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 11:38

Nobody has yet been able to explain why a reputable Hollywood publication would print false allegations about a former cable TV actress.

😂On Celebitchy they've managed to convince themselves!

It's clearly the RF - mainly KC and William - who've put pressure on the Hollywood Reporter (because all these things are controlled by the British Media, whatever that is) to put these nasty rumours out about Meghan.

So that explains it.

Alectoishome · 27/09/2024 11:48

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 11:33

There must genuinely be something wrong with her. I've heard people say narcissitic personality disorder, sociopath, some kind of neurodiversity - could be a combination of more than one thing. It is interesting, there definitely must be something going on with her as its not like she's thick, she's average/normal intelligence. She doesn't seem normal to me, and I wouldn't say that lightly about anyone.

She's fascinating (horribly, I admit) partly because of her jaw-dropping, textbook narcissism - it's rare to see it exemplified so blatantly in real life.

I suspect her childhood experience of Hollywood film-sets has skewed her attitudes and personality considerably, It's a shallow world where superficial appearance and behaviour is what you are judged on. She will have seen gushing, insincere behaviour from film-folk - all actors will tell you that they need to establish close, even intimate, relationships with their colleagues almost instantly, and this is how it works - the old 'Darling!' culture, though that's more British. Then, when the filming is done, most of them go their separate ways and these 'friendships' evaporate.

She'll also have seen at close hand the importance of hierarchy in terms of star-rating - and the inevitable jealousies and jockeying for status - maybe even learned that the way for women to climb the greasy pole is the old, traditional one of using their sexuality.

Clearly Meghan's family are a strange lot, and that's putting it mildly, and she hasn't fallen far from the tree. Where WAS Doria, during those years? So bizarre that's been successfully suppressed - was it the RF/secret service who have helped to keep this quiet? I feel sorry for M's father - her treatment of him (on the face of it) seems appalling.

I wouldnt be suprised if, after her father has died, she writes a book saying she was abused by him. And in her mind, she'll probably believe it. She already believes she has been abused by most of the world.

Hiji · 27/09/2024 11:52

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:43

James is a superstar.

This was over 4 years ago - pre Oprah, Netflix, Spare etc

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:53

One person used the word ‘bully’ in an email. It has been swallowed whole ever since by a gaslighting media. No facts. No real examples just vague accusations without substance, context or names. And the if it is not true she can sue them argument is very weak too. A rudimentary working knowledge of defamation and libel will show you why she is highly unlikely to win a case due to the realities of how to prove loss of earnings etc. David Linley was successful in his suit because he could prove loss of earnings and damage to reputation and his making furniture items.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 27/09/2024 11:54

ClosingTheDoorOnThePast · 27/09/2024 00:03

I remember this. She wrote on all the bananas with a sharpie inspirational messages saying things like "You've got this". To homeless people in their food parcels. I knew then that she was way off the mark and would never make it in the royal family.

Yes they were parcels for sex workers, and she wrote "You're loved" and similar in Sharpie on bananas for them. Because of course a trite message written on something shaped like a phallus is going to help.

Hiji · 27/09/2024 11:55

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 27/09/2024 11:54

Yes they were parcels for sex workers, and she wrote "You're loved" and similar in Sharpie on bananas for them. Because of course a trite message written on something shaped like a phallus is going to help.

So crass and insensitive.

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:56

Wow. New lows every day in this echo chamber of anti Sussex comments. I see many of the decent people have left too. Can’t say I blame them.

IcedPurple · 27/09/2024 11:56

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:53

One person used the word ‘bully’ in an email. It has been swallowed whole ever since by a gaslighting media. No facts. No real examples just vague accusations without substance, context or names. And the if it is not true she can sue them argument is very weak too. A rudimentary working knowledge of defamation and libel will show you why she is highly unlikely to win a case due to the realities of how to prove loss of earnings etc. David Linley was successful in his suit because he could prove loss of earnings and damage to reputation and his making furniture items.

That's not true in England at least. You don't have to prove a potential loss of earning to win a libel case. Indeed, libel laws in England are famously favourable to the complainant, some would say to the detriment of a free press.

And even putting aside legal action, the fact remains that none of the allegations have been denied.

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:57

Hiji · 27/09/2024 11:52

This was over 4 years ago - pre Oprah, Netflix, Spare etc

Edited

It was a sample of some good coming out of British media outlets. James is loved.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 27/09/2024 12:02

I am thoroughly enjoying the exposure of toxic bully Megan Markle. Like others on MN I'm a survivor of a relationship with a toxic narcissist and so many of Meghan's words, ways of speaking and body language got my spidey senses tingling from the engagement interview.

The assumption of a position of moral superiority, the subtle (and not so subtle) denigrating of others, controlling the responses of those around them, faux benevolent word salad, slippery presentation of facts, false and toxic positivity, preaching one mode of behaviour whilst clearly doing another, constant centring of self in the narrative...all of these are important gaslighting tools of the narcissist, and are crazy-making for the victim.

I believe that all these traits have been on show by MM from the start and became more obvious from the Oprah interview onwards.

If H&M had gone off to be private citizens that would be one thing. But they have explicitly and implicitly set themselves up as paragons of service, benevolent activists and examples to follow - which is why their inevitable exposure is so immensely satisfying; not to mention amusing as hell.

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 12:08

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 11:53

One person used the word ‘bully’ in an email. It has been swallowed whole ever since by a gaslighting media. No facts. No real examples just vague accusations without substance, context or names. And the if it is not true she can sue them argument is very weak too. A rudimentary working knowledge of defamation and libel will show you why she is highly unlikely to win a case due to the realities of how to prove loss of earnings etc. David Linley was successful in his suit because he could prove loss of earnings and damage to reputation and his making furniture items.

I think there'll be plenty of hard evidence - if things ever come to court. The RF have a whole dossier from her time at KP - but they're keeping their powder dry just now. I guess at one time this was partly to 'protect' (the irony!) Meghan from condemnation while she was still in the RF, but in the face of what's happened since then, it's a useful hostage to fortune in case she makes further damaging claims.

Those in the know also think that a highly respected trade journal like the HR would not risk making these allegations without very, very good evidence. If Meghan wants to challenge them, I'm sure they think 'Be our guest!'. The fact that she hasn't made a legal challenge to either the UK or the US bullying charges is telling.

Triplesec · 27/09/2024 12:09

IcedPurple · 27/09/2024 11:56

That's not true in England at least. You don't have to prove a potential loss of earning to win a libel case. Indeed, libel laws in England are famously favourable to the complainant, some would say to the detriment of a free press.

And even putting aside legal action, the fact remains that none of the allegations have been denied.

Edited

She has gone on record denying them. See end of Meghan and Harry series. Statements when Oprah aired. The truth is people have no evidence and the used of ‘reportedly’ and ‘allegedly’ can cover a lot of rubbish put out. Bowers is a case in point. Read what he writes about M looking awful and with greasy hair when interviewed with her love interest from Suits by LK. Saw the interview. Nothing bad about it at all.

The HR is relying on its reputation of old. It has shed a lot of staff and is moving in the direction of gossipy ‘entertainment’ articles. Including reporting on royals. It also has nefarious links through its owner to Murdoch and a lot of UK journos are now spilling their poison into a few American publications via contacts. M and H are clickbait advertising - prime real estate, if you will. Americans aren’t falling for it. The magazine People, you may not like, but has over a 40 million readership and it and many more even handed publications focus on the positive and facts.

The British media anti Meghan guerilla war is all yours.

MrsGalloway · 27/09/2024 12:09

I find the PR aspect of all this fascinating. I know nothing about PR or Hollywood or even America really but I don’t understand the clap back strategy via US Weekly. It’s such a saccharine portrayal of her that leaves you thinking wow lots of red flags in that boundary overstepping behaviour and it’s completely possible that someone could be over the top sweet at times and a bully at others. Most of us have come across people like that.

I’d have have thought the professional advice might be to do a bit of a mea culpa interview with a really reputable publication, a bit like Brad Pitt did in his GQ interview when he talked about his drinking and his divorce. You know - Meghan in jeans and jumper, hardly any makeup, slightly messy hair, sitting somewhere wholesome like a kitchen table or by a veg patch looking older wiser and reflective , saying things like “you know what I can be difficult at times, I get really passionate and focussed on things (insert reference to some good works), I don’t pretend to a be a perfect human being, I’m a work in progress, we have amazing employees who are at the top of their game and who I value and rely on but I’m sure I annoy the hell out of them at times, but I always try to be fair and I don’t bully etc etc maybe some subtle reference to behaviour being judged differently as a woman without sound too victimish. Bit of reflection on how strange their situation is, possibly some acknowledgment they haven’t always made the right decisions and that’s caused other people hurt?

Hiji · 27/09/2024 12:09

CoffeeCantata · 27/09/2024 11:33

There must genuinely be something wrong with her. I've heard people say narcissitic personality disorder, sociopath, some kind of neurodiversity - could be a combination of more than one thing. It is interesting, there definitely must be something going on with her as its not like she's thick, she's average/normal intelligence. She doesn't seem normal to me, and I wouldn't say that lightly about anyone.

She's fascinating (horribly, I admit) partly because of her jaw-dropping, textbook narcissism - it's rare to see it exemplified so blatantly in real life.

I suspect her childhood experience of Hollywood film-sets has skewed her attitudes and personality considerably, It's a shallow world where superficial appearance and behaviour is what you are judged on. She will have seen gushing, insincere behaviour from film-folk - all actors will tell you that they need to establish close, even intimate, relationships with their colleagues almost instantly, and this is how it works - the old 'Darling!' culture, though that's more British. Then, when the filming is done, most of them go their separate ways and these 'friendships' evaporate.

She'll also have seen at close hand the importance of hierarchy in terms of star-rating - and the inevitable jealousies and jockeying for status - maybe even learned that the way for women to climb the greasy pole is the old, traditional one of using their sexuality.

Clearly Meghan's family are a strange lot, and that's putting it mildly, and she hasn't fallen far from the tree. Where WAS Doria, during those years? So bizarre that's been successfully suppressed - was it the RF/secret service who have helped to keep this quiet? I feel sorry for M's father - her treatment of him (on the face of it) seems appalling.

Where WAS Doria, during those years? So bizarre that's been successfully suppressed - was it the RF/secret service who have helped to keep this quiet? I feel sorry for M's father - her treatment of him (on the face of it) seems appalling.

It might well be something innocent or acceptable - working away, poor housing, physical or MH issues.

Its also not clear if MM was just based at the her Dads Mon-Fri for logistical reasons and saw her Mum at weekends etc or if she didnt see her for years.

I do think though that if there was a nefarious reason Thomas and Samantha Markle would not have been able to stop themselves spilling the beans.

I think she had a complex and disrupted childhood in a unique setting - but I do believe she was deeply loved and supported throughout.

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