Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

I think maybe you can’t explain it as simply you wish it to be British?

was South Park also British?

The fact it's in the Hollywood Reporter lends it legitimacy.

It's THE paper of record in Hollywood. If THR has published it - it is fact.

I believe the pp was just commenting that the DM have now brought the story over to the UK. It'll be worldwide next.

I would add not speaking to her father for over six years, despite his ill health. A couple of paparazzi photos is nothing compared to a book and series trashing H's family and invading their privacy.

I think it’s as they are quoting the Hollywood reporter. Which is a huge publication. They were also called the biggest losers of 23 by the Holly wood reporter, and that was republished across many countries globally inc the uk.

as much as there fans would like to believe it’s Britain who is the issue here, it is absolutely the Americans leading the charge.

Agree, the main message is that it’s a US outlet and it’s not the big bad British press

Just that word jumped out at me and I think it will for H&M ….so I suspect there will prob be an ‘investigation’

I am sure he can rustle up a few of Meghans friends, Misan, the Soho guy, the Jenner boyfriend, paramount guy they went to Jamaica with. He still has, at least two friends from the UK, the ex MP guy who pushed invictus onto Birmingham, the one guy from the UK who visited him at least once.

Elton is too unwell and too old to travel anywhere for a 40th , and who would want James Corden at any party.

@MrsLeonFarrell
"I think it unfair to say posters automatically claim people are members of the Squad when they say favourable or neutral things. The Squad do tend to use certain key words and phrases which can be obvious even with name changes. They also tend to use arguments about events from a few years ago or claim things that simply aren't true, eg the Sussexes are the most popular royals when they clearly aren't"

Hard agree.

It's like when posters bring up "what about Andrew" to distract from anything negative about H&M.

I posted yesterday that THR just backs up Valentine Low's and Tom Bowers reporting, as well as Harry's own words in Spare.

They are clearly difficult people to work for, and to me it indicates people struggling, unhappy and out of their depth - taking it out on those they deem below them.

It also shows how protected they were when still within the RF.

Edit - spelling

Exactly.

The idea that unnamed 'Brits' have taken over one of the most respected Hollywood publications in order to trash the Sussexes is farcical. THR is connected with some of the biggest players in Hollywood. This isn't some gossip rag.

Maybe a 'Brit' was one of the sources. Maybe not. This isn't about nationality. It's about the fact that Hollywood has clearly turned its back on the Sussexes. As I said above, if they were making money for people, their bad behaviour would be hushed up, as it doubtless is for many in Hollywood. But it's clear that nobody in the industry feels they have anything to lose by exposing these two. Whatever chance they ever had of a Hollywood career is surely now over.

I think that the main factor with Hollywood is the content of Spare and the interview with Oprah. They have shown that they will use private stories and information for their own benefit. Hollywood is full of people who need to present the best image possible for their career and who need great PR. Why risk hanging out with people who can't be trusted with anything that casts you in a negative light?

The Hollywood Reporter may be a big player but in the same “Rambling Reporter” section, there is a story about a maitre d’hotel who is a favourite of some famous actors returning to a Hollywood watering hole! It’s hardly serious reporting! It's gossip by any other name!

In order to make it’s estimated $210.7M dollar annual revenue, the Hollywood Reporter obviously has to film its pages somehow. As does the famously caustic Tom Bower who writes for commercial reasons. And a commercial imperative is also at the forefront of most disgruntled ex employees who leak stories to the press, whether it’s the Daily Mail or the Hollywood Reporter frankly.

Everyone rubbing their hands in glee over a bit of tittle tattle is a bit pathetic imho.

A quick search for “Fuming” on The Hollywood reporter Website debunks that notion quite quickly. 384 results, most in headlines.

Regardless if it’s serious journalism or not, the main thing is….is it true

This is the sort of magazine that Meghan and her friends read, it’s that influential.

That’s why Meghans besties who have just opened a bookstore called Godmothers, gave their interview to…duh duh duhhh! …The Hollywood Reporter!

Maybe, as I say. It’s just a feeling that I have

I don't think it's easy to dismiss it as "tittle tattle" when it follows many similar allegations over a period of years. There is a definite pattern and that's without taking into account the massive staff turnover, again over years.

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Some very serious journalism here for you:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-oprah-godmothers-bookstore-1235998081/#

They are clearly difficult people to work for, and to me it indicates people struggling, unhappy and out of their depth - taking it out on those they deem below them

in normal circumstances I’d agree, but we need to remember that Megan has been accused of bullying from before she even married him. Reports of her abusing the palace staff from day 1. And Harry is not accused of being a bully or abusive. An enabler yes, too chicken shit to stop it. Sure. But he’s not ever being accused of being a bully to the staff other than the what Megan wants she gets fiasco,

I think it’s Megan who is difficult to work for in terms of bullying. I don’t think it’s Harry. I think Harry is hard to work for for the reasons you state. Struggling, out of his depth, unhappy.

I completely agree. The US press are far worse than the British at the moment. (Well the ones that aren’t paid for puff pieces). Americans love to sound British, they love an accent and I can imagine that being a journalist, English linguistics will be of interest. It doesn’t mean anything.

So as a completely 'neutral' person, do you think these allegations are false?

That the HR is just making stuff up for a lark?

That the high staff turnover and consistent talk of how difficult the Sussexes are to work for is just fiction?

What's your neutral, entirely disinterested opinion?

So “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets” is probably true and we can all guess what the bullying report was like.

It’s hardly serious reporting! It's gossip by any other name! I work in another industry and the main industry site contains industry gossip because it’s of interest to industry professionals.

And a commercial imperative is also at the forefront of most disgruntled ex employees who leak stories to the press, whether it’s the Daily Mail or the Hollywood Reporter frankly. The motives of the whistleblowers is interesting to ponder but the people who were senior enough to be named as leaving were probably on six figure salaries and have impressive CVs so probably quickly walked into their next jobs so the payment for their stories is unlikely to be significant.

Samantha Cohen in an interview admitted she was one of the 10 staff interviewed about the bullying claims, while she clearly couldn't say anymore about her working life there, she did disclose that her replacement and another left midway through the S. Africa tour.

The evidence is all there over the years.

I don't buy that Harry isn't a bully. He absolutely is. Remember the poor guy is the army he racially abused, the matron he mocked, Angela Kelly the Queen's dresser. His bullying may be more subtle than outright screaming but there is evidence he doesn't treat the 'little people' well.

I also imagine he is difficult to work with because he not too bright, entitled and aimless, see the ghost writer of Spare saying the progress was 'glacial'.

That’s fair actually.

I seem to have started something by suggesting one of the sources may be British!

I have to be clear- it’s an American writer, writing for an American creative industry magazine, so pertinent to an American audience.

I have a feeling (zero evidence) that one of the sources is British. Why do I think that’s important? because I suspect H&M who we know are paranoid, could possibly think they same and will be questioning their group. The will want to find where the leak is coming from.

I don’t believe the British press has anything to do with this at all or had any influence on the HR.

It’s an industry magazine writing about what’s important to the movers and shakers of Hollywood.

Psychopaths are usually charming.

(Not saying that Harry is a psychopath, just that being charming doesn’t equal being a nice person).

Agreed. The allegations in this latest article have followed Harry and Meghan from the start. Across continents and cultures, too.

There’s even bit of actual evidence that supports the story (for example, it is true that the director of Meghan’s Reitman’s commercial commented on someone else’s facebook re-post of an article about her that she was the meanest person he had ever met. It is also true that one of her senior staff members at Kensington Palace felt the need to make an official complaint to HR about her behaviours towards staff. Both these things happened literally years before the bullying allegations publicly broke - they were no bandwagon jumping).

And they also have had a consistently high staff turnover in the last 7 years. They’ve been publicly criticised by those they have worked with. And we know from their own court cases that they will both lie and spin to put the best narrative into the public domain.

None of us can say what really happens behind scenes, of course. But this story clearly has legs for a reason.