Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

Reading this thread is so depressing. Why so much hate for someone that you don’t know?

Also have you had a conversation with Harry in real life? I have, he was charming.

They’d have enough material to make multiple series about their behaviour!

William called Meghan “difficult”, “rude” and “abrasive”, as Harry recounted in Spare and which Harry put down to a “parroting of the press narrative” about his American wife.

Seems accurate. Classic Narcs have two powerful and very separate faces - they have an immense ability to charm (when then need something from that person) as well as crush and discard.

I always look at Doria and consider her stoic and slightly emotionally detached from her daughter knowning what she is like and on eggshells around her waiting for her to blow or the truth to come out.

No they just pay them really badly.

Yeah, I've been very vocal in speaking up for the accuracy of UK tabloid reporting, in Sussex threads on MN and elsewhere, for years. A thankless task which usually gets me flamed, but I know for a fact that since the hacking scandal, the UK tabloids re incredibly careful when doing exposes - everything has to have a clear source trail and has to be approved from a legal standpoint. Especially when it comes to the RF.

What this means is that if you read an expose or revelation in the Sun, Mirror or Mail, not only can you be confident it's true, you can also be confident that there were much worse incidents which the journalist in question held back because the paper's lawyers couldn't quite get comfortable that it could absolutely stand up on court. They err on the side of caution.

So I believe that Meghan is everything the UK and US tabloids say she is and a lot worse.

Defamation standards in the UK are lower than the US so she could potentially get a much rougher ride from the US press from hereon in, than she would have had she stayed in UK where it is still relatively easy to muzzle the press especially if you're the Palace.

Exactly @GiveMeSpanakopita

Here, if you are suing for defamation/libel, it’s the party accused of defamation that has to prove what they said/wrote was true.

This is a higher evidential burden than in the US, where it is the pursuer who only has to prove that they aren’t the things that the other wrote or said.

This is why, before going to print british papers have to have evidence that what they are writing has legit sources.

@ThatAvidViewer I dont know why employees who are feeling the brunt of meghans tongue, do not just tell her to fuck off and walk out on her and the job!!! I wouldnt take her shit from anyone, especially a jumped up third rate ex actress like her!!!

That's exactly what has happened, an unprecedented number of employees who work closely with them have left after very short tenures, albeit having signed watertight NDA's so they can never fully disclose how they were mistreated and bullied.

I do think that Americans are far more sensible in that respect , that deference won’t be showed to either of them.

This is also why I think they are churning through so many staff stateside.

Remember, they said when in the UK they were unhappy and the palace weren’t helpful. So they had an excuse for the amount of staff they got through.

But stateside, where they are supposed to be super happy and experiencing their chapter of joy- the staff turnover rate is still high.

This will continue because Americans won’t put up with the crap. There’s no prestige or career advantages to working for them. They don’t care for titles.

Unlike the royals where there is prestige and you can go on to work in the civil service etc at top level if you are in the UK

I also think because of this, US staff are far more likely to speak out….so you never know there could be a leaked video or audio soon?

Lots of nasty people are charming.

Meghan marched around in high heels making grown men cry. What a load of BS.

I worked somewhere where the female boss had made grown men cry. It happens.

Never seen workplace bullying, I take it? I’ve investigated many claims of it in my time, and seen plenty of men shattered by the experience.

Never seen that? Lucky you.

Yes many people agree with you HARRY is charming

Megan allegedly not

I believe that there will be a "Me too" moment when all the ex-exployees get to speak out and the NDAs ignored as seen has facilitating/hiding abuse.

I also think this will happen in the UK. There was a strategic reason that the RF held back the bullying investigation. They will deploy it at the right time - maybe when consistent behaviour is seen in multiple settings and geographies rather than within the unique and unrelable work environment of Buckingham Palace.

There is also the detailed body count of bullying by H&M in the book Courtiers by the very credible Valentine Lowe

Agreed. It's strange how she keeps falling out with everyone! For this reason I cannot see them staying together past 10 years. She'll divorce him and move on without him. Harry will rejoin the firm in a small capacity and hope that it all blows over.

Thing is if she bullies others, it is hugely feasible she bullies him. And if he’s bullied he might find it difficult to leave, especially as he’s burned all his bridges with his family and his kids will stay in the us.

Interesting how they no longer seem to be so litigious or have their inside journalists promoting them and giving their version of events, which was what they did earlier on. What’s more, earlier on when they were doing this, there were plenty more people willing to believe in them and what they said whereas now they really could do with that extra support but it’s not there.

Maybe that’s why the Spencer aunts are trying to keep a relationship going. They are the closest thing he has to his mother, looking out for him

@FuzzyDiva

yes, interesting that they don’t sue the US press but always target the UK.

Even though some of the worst headlines have been in the US. It’s because they know they won’t be able to sue, because there is more freedom of the press in the US.

Plus their victim narrative is that they were driven out of the UK. They know they can’t do that in the US as they have nowhere else to run. Maybe Colombia?

At least we know how much these stories upset them….but also know there’s nothing they can do about it!

I mean Harry threatened to sue the BBC because they said he didn’t ask for explicit consent for naming Lilibet after the queen. That dropped off because the BBC didn’t back down.
But if he’s willing to sue over something small like this, just shows how hypocritical they are that there isn’t a threat over articles like the Hollywood reporter. Thus proving the stories are true!!! Because if they aren’t…they are the first to sue!

Meghan sued for her letter to her dad being published and Harry….well he sued for everything.

so it’s very telling

I don’t know how he couldn’t see all of that in her character and demeanour before he married her

This. I don't think he'll leave her. The US and especially the state of Cali - the family courts are extremely pro the parent who is a US citizen and very anti the parent who is not, especially if that parent is a self-declared drug user. It was would extremely difficult for Harry to get decent access to his US citizen kids in the event of a divorce, and since they're the only thing left to him after his scorched earth policy, I think they'll stay married.

But that’s what the article is saying. Harry is meant to be lovely and charming. It’s Meghan that isn’t meant to be very nice. This is also what Rebel Wilson said “Harry couldn’t have been nicer” but Meghan “was not as cool” & “Meghan wasn't as naturally warm”.