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Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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ThatAvidViewer · 12/09/2024 21:11

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

Would you work for Harry and Meghan? Ex-employees say run away.

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Harry and Meghan

Plus, how an Echo glitch turned Alexa into a “commie operative” and Dimitri, the million-dollar maitre ‘d, rides off into the Sunset (Tower).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-keeps-quitting-prince-harry-meghan-markle-1235996963/

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JADS · 14/09/2024 10:41

I will admit my bias here, in that I have never found Harry particularly likeable. His drunken japes were funny when he was very young but went on far too long.

Anyway being an enabler is also not a good thing. I'm glad the whistleblowing is starting. NDAs are such a dodgy concept.

IcedPurple · 14/09/2024 10:43

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/09/2024 10:08

I think that the main factor with Hollywood is the content of Spare and the interview with Oprah. They have shown that they will use private stories and information for their own benefit. Hollywood is full of people who need to present the best image possible for their career and who need great PR. Why risk hanging out with people who can't be trusted with anything that casts you in a negative light?

Yes. The rich and famous value discretion and loyalty extremely highly. The Sussexes have shown themselves to be the opposite of that.

And again, I go back to the fact that they've failed to produce. If they were making podcasts topping the Spotify charts, or NF shows getting great ratings, they would be forgiven a lot. But basically they seem to think Hollywood owes them a living just for being a Duke and Duchess, and that's not really how it works.

In a sense, the truth or otherwise of these allegations is irrelevant, although I do believe they are true. It's the fact that a major industry publication will run with them. That is evidence that nobody sees them as having a future in Hollywood.

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:47

JADS · 14/09/2024 10:31

I don't buy that Harry isn't a bully. He absolutely is. Remember the poor guy is the army he racially abused, the matron he mocked, Angela Kelly the Queen's dresser. His bullying may be more subtle than outright screaming but there is evidence he doesn't treat the 'little people' well.

I also imagine he is difficult to work with because he not too bright, entitled and aimless, see the ghost writer of Spare saying the progress was 'glacial'.

Harry probably sees this as " bantz" - it's childish and immature. Perhaps as he has aged he has realised this.

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:48

MummyJ12 · 14/09/2024 10:39

Psychopaths are usually charming.

(Not saying that Harry is a psychopath, just that being charming doesn’t equal being a nice person).

It isn't Harry that is the psychopath.

Eldrick47s · 14/09/2024 10:49

IAmATorturedPoet · 14/09/2024 08:59

So we have:

’Duchess Difficult’
’Sussex Survivors Club’
Staff crying at their desks
An investigation into bullying of palace staff
A revolving door of staff both here and in US
A falling out with nearly the entire family on both sides
Lying in court.
Lying on TV
(I could go on)

And we are supposed to believe that they are the victims and it’s always someone else’s fault? oh do c’mon!!

’If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn’t everyone else’

I do believe ‘recollections may vary’ is a certainty.😊

Yeah, she falls out with/discards too many people for there to be no substance to the plethora of articles on her.

What might be underlooked is 'the Karen' aspect, ie. the entitled american woman.

Historically 'the Karen' refers to difficult white women in america using their white privilege to inflict harm on non white people, but in its wider usage today it also refers to people of any race in america who are difficult/demanding ("I demand to speak to the manager" types).

She comes across as a Karen, ie. difficult and entitled. Despite Harry's aristocratic background he has never come across as difficult or entitled, until he got together with her. Now its "my daddy never pushed me on a cart" (despite pictures showing otherwise), and all the constant self absorbed 'woe is me' stuff in interviews/books that never appeared until he met her.

He isn't the sharpest as is well documented, which leaves him open to being easily manipulated/led. His personality has been transformed since he has been with her, and when he speaks that same self absorbed trait we associate with the Karen is there.

I think there is a definite clash of cultures. You couldn't envisage Kate being 'a Karen'. There just isnt that level of equivalent here, even in aristocratic circles.

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 10:49

100% the Netflix deal is over.

Why wouldn’t Harry in all this birthday press he’s been doing, not talking about all the exciting plans he has for the next decade re his production company? It isn’t mentioned at all. His charities, patronages and Invictus keep coming up…..but nothing about the one thing that makes him a tonne of money? It’s over

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 10:50

….and nothing about meghan. Just his kids….make if that what you will

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 10:54

Eldrick47s · 14/09/2024 10:49

Yeah, she falls out with/discards too many people for there to be no substance to the plethora of articles on her.

What might be underlooked is 'the Karen' aspect, ie. the entitled american woman.

Historically 'the Karen' refers to difficult white women in america using their white privilege to inflict harm on non white people, but in its wider usage today it also refers to people of any race in america who are difficult/demanding ("I demand to speak to the manager" types).

She comes across as a Karen, ie. difficult and entitled. Despite Harry's aristocratic background he has never come across as difficult or entitled, until he got together with her. Now its "my daddy never pushed me on a cart" (despite pictures showing otherwise), and all the constant self absorbed 'woe is me' stuff in interviews/books that never appeared until he met her.

He isn't the sharpest as is well documented, which leaves him open to being easily manipulated/led. His personality has been transformed since he has been with her, and when he speaks that same self absorbed trait we associate with the Karen is there.

I think there is a definite clash of cultures. You couldn't envisage Kate being 'a Karen'. There just isnt that level of equivalent here, even in aristocratic circles.

Honestly don’t use that term it’s deeply misogynistic.

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:54

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 09:31

Elton is sending flowers….which I suspect he does with absolutely everybody.

It’s hardly a thoughtful gift for turning 40, from the man who has in the past looked out for them, let them on his plane, use his holiday home. Who was close to his mum.

Im guessing a falling out over the Pearl thing that was rejected by Netflix?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/elton-john-snubs-prince-harrys-33667910.amp

Elton John's spending on flowers was in a court case years ago. 😊

Uricon2 · 14/09/2024 10:54

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 10:50

….and nothing about meghan. Just his kids….make if that what you will

The omission is very noticeable.

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:56

@Sparklywhiteteeth the use of the Karen theme is like the angry black woman theme - both are insulting to women.

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 10:57

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:56

@Sparklywhiteteeth the use of the Karen theme is like the angry black woman theme - both are insulting to women.

Agree, it really detracts from what the poster said, all I can see is the term Karen

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 11:00

Meghan's key ring as spotted at the bookstore opening. Could be seen as a bit harsh but inside such a sweet message 😉

Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry
Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry
Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 11:05

needingadviceandthoughts · 14/09/2024 10:54

Elton John's spending on flowers was in a court case years ago. 😊

I remember that …insane amounts

CathyorClaire · 14/09/2024 11:07

thenightsky · 13/09/2024 18:17

Thanks for this.

Those archived articles are very interesting. The further shot showing an unamused Harold finger-wagging the same waiter particularly so.

I don't think Rachel's the only badly behaved one when it comes to staff. Prince Charmless clearly has his moments too.

Rhaidimiddim · 14/09/2024 11:11

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 08:46

Headline DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13849229/Meghan-Markle-leaves-staff-terrified.html

Story in Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/30431095/meghan-markle-dubbed-duchess-difficult/

The Sun headline:

which highlights what I said yesterday- that all his birthday statements are about his kids and charities but not specifically about meghan…which is weird:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/30431112/prince-harry-spare-heir-meghans-plus-one/

It also says that his bodyguard is his bestie and weird bit about Elton John….they don’t seem that close anymore by the sounds of it

Also Daily Express:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1948456/meghan-markle-dubbed-duchess-difficult

Meghan dubbed 'Duchess Difficult' by US staff as Hollywood turn their backs

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are reportedly facing a cold shoulder in Hollywood, following their high staff turnover and a recent report.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1948456/meghan-markle-dubbed-duchess-difficult

MaturingCheeseball · 14/09/2024 11:13

It always sticks with me that clip of Meghan on the red carpet grinning away when she won’t get off. Her assistant (assistant!) is prompted to encourage her along and Meghan rounds on her and snaps “Don’t rush me” before suddenly switching on the huge smile again. The assistant was gone before the week was out…

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 11:13

Just waiting for some of the US outlets to pick it up. Expect NYPost and Page six soon….

Somehow I think People magazine will manage not to see the HR article 😂

CathyorClaire · 14/09/2024 11:16

100% the Netflix deal is over.

Entirely agree.

I suspect the cooking show was only ever a pilot, didn't engage the focus groups and has quietly bitten the dust. The Polo doc's in the bag but they know it's not going to set the world alight.

Both are sops to the Harolds and cover for Netflix running down the clock until the contract expires.

Firealarm1414 · 14/09/2024 11:18

So now that the daily mail have picked it up, the reinforcements have arrived to decry it as tabloid nonsense? Sorry but the Hollywood reporter is a reputable outlet and read by anyone who is anyone in the entertainment industry, including actual Hollywood royalty. They are finished, or at least, meghan is anyway.

When Meghan barged in front of the queen to get into a car that told you all you need to know about her. Rude, ignorant and entitled. And I'm irish, don't really give 2 shits about the royal family but I would still respect an elderly lady, let alone the queen!

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 11:20

Firealarm1414 · 14/09/2024 11:18

So now that the daily mail have picked it up, the reinforcements have arrived to decry it as tabloid nonsense? Sorry but the Hollywood reporter is a reputable outlet and read by anyone who is anyone in the entertainment industry, including actual Hollywood royalty. They are finished, or at least, meghan is anyway.

When Meghan barged in front of the queen to get into a car that told you all you need to know about her. Rude, ignorant and entitled. And I'm irish, don't really give 2 shits about the royal family but I would still respect an elderly lady, let alone the queen!

Edited

So far we’ve had oh it must have been written by a Brit, it’s just a gossip columnand what about andrew! 😂

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 11:23

MaturingCheeseball · 14/09/2024 11:13

It always sticks with me that clip of Meghan on the red carpet grinning away when she won’t get off. Her assistant (assistant!) is prompted to encourage her along and Meghan rounds on her and snaps “Don’t rush me” before suddenly switching on the huge smile again. The assistant was gone before the week was out…

To be fair here , that lady still works for her. It was another assistant who left.

Twistybranch · 14/09/2024 11:23

CathyorClaire · 14/09/2024 11:16

100% the Netflix deal is over.

Entirely agree.

I suspect the cooking show was only ever a pilot, didn't engage the focus groups and has quietly bitten the dust. The Polo doc's in the bag but they know it's not going to set the world alight.

Both are sops to the Harolds and cover for Netflix running down the clock until the contract expires.

I agree, it’s running down the clock. There must be something in the contact about x amount of shows that Netflix would buy etc. This feels like a ‘filler’ to get the numbers up. It sounds completely boring.
The original deal was to get the inside scoop from the H&M docu. Now that they have it….H&Ms value is nothing…they gave it away.

Even the Crown has finished, I think Netflix has ticked the box on British royalty and they’re done.

Sparklywhiteteeth · 14/09/2024 11:25

I wonder what the palace is thinking this morning, as this grows wings and flies. Clearly they all knew, from before he married her, and they had to deal with their own staff being bullied. But watching it all unravel must be hard for his family, his father, as Harry has made some terrible and unforgivable mistakes.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 14/09/2024 11:26

I think there was a very obvious flash of anger at an aide who tries to take flowers off her during the joint walkabout after the Queens death

She quickly realised there was a camera and became almost obsequious

The real Megan is when the cameras are off

I hope her children don’t disappoint her because she has some very troubling traits

She could do with some therapy herself and take a long hard look at herself- there are too many fallouts as someone pointed out up thread

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