Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

She looked deeply scared at the Windsor fouresome walkabout.

I sawe that as the usual perfomative theatrics - fake again 'poor ickle me and nasty Kate' -- she was composed enough to snap and glare at the security guard offering to take the flowers

I agree. She kept them waiting for an hour while she got herself ready. She bitched about the car journey back with Omid Scobie who but the bleating in Endgame. She wasn't scared, just performing. Catherine looked very in charge though, I liked that assertiveness.

Even on his birthday, Harry has to take a backseat to what Meghan wants. It's humiliating on a big birthday like your 40th to attend another person's celebration and not have your own, even just a private night at home.

And if you remember the entitled, grandiose, delusional chaos they created by trying to insist that MM was included at the deadbed scene (held up the plane) - how utterly vile and intrusive when they had done OW, threatened more books and MM was throwing her weight around and goading in The Cut interview just the day before.

Didnt Omid Scabie tweet that H&M were already en route to Balmoral before BP announced?

It seems like M often wants a third wheel with them socially too. Her mother was often brought along and it looked like H was an afterthought. On this occasion all her focus appears to be on the other woman in the car, when they go out for dinner they are often a three . It’s like she needs someone else along for light relief.

Yes

I think her aim was to be rich , famous and feted . No interest in being a serious actor .

I was wondering about that when she was made patron of the National Theatre. She seemed to do nothing for them or add any significant contribution. At the time I thought ‘but she’s a cultural philistine!’

And if you remember the entitled, grandiose, delusional chaos they created by trying to insist that MM was included at the deathbed scene

All the more disgraceful given that they couldn't manage to visit Balmoral when the Queen was alive.

And what use would M have been if she'd gone? She'd just have been in the way. A stranger to all the staff at Balmoral witnessing their grief. and then telling Scoble all about it.

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As far as I know, she has shown no interest in theatre/art/music/dance which is very odd for someone who's been a performer herself.

She did shake her tushie at a Beyoncé concert but that’s as cultural as I have seen her since leaving the RF!

Ironically, I think the smartest thing the could have done was to try to leverage a great acting role for Meghan post-leaving.

Even if it wasn't what she wanted to do, it would have been the gateway to credibility in the A List world.

Trying to be philanthropists doesn't really sit right off the back of tell-all books and gossip.

Ironically, I think the smartest thing the could have done was to try to leverage a great acting role for Meghan post-leaving

Problem is she can’t act! All of us can see straight through her performances, none of them are remotely convincing.

Agree charity begins at home.
Actions not words.
See Michelle Obamas interview and advice to them following the OW interview on YouTube - it is subtle, wise and she sees right through them.
They should have listened to her.

I suspect that both Catherine and William can be extremely forgiving, unless you upset their spouse. In the walkabout I think Catherine let out a little of her anger at the way Harry had made the Queen dying about him with all the confusion about flights to Scotland. Now I think William is angry at the things they have said about Catherine.

This is a problem for Harry that I don't think he understands or knows how to solve. Both of them I believe are protecting the other and he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to realise that to reconcile he needs to own what he did and the hurt he caused. Instead he is focused on manufactured hurts like extra sausages and not being the center of attention when his father is facing the death of his mother and becoming King. He can't seem to grasp what he did.

he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to realise that to reconcile he needs to own what he did and the hurt he caused. Instead he is focused on manufactured hurts like extra sausages and not being the center of attention when his father is facing the death of his mother and becoming King. He can't seem to grasp what he did.

It gets worse - he is still demnading an apology from PW before he will reconcile!!

I don’t think Harry has ever been made to face up to things he’s done wrong in the past. He’s been forgiven, allowances made, things smoothed over. So he’s grown into a Man Child who has the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.

It's more than just not being interested though. In the Wimbledon clip she looks seething with rage that this woman, who Meghan has deemed beneath her, has the audacity to talk to her. It was the same with the African lady telling her harrowing story. Her face said 'just shut up and go away'. It's really quite psychotic the way she behaves.

Maybe. William has talked about not being able to put his arm round his brother anymore. It's so sad that the relationship between the 3 of them has fractured rather than them becoming 2 supportive couples in a goldfish bowl. I never like the Fab Four stuff but they could have been so supportive for each other behind the scenes. But Harry is too damaged and Meghan doesn't seem to be able to help him heal.

Do you blame Harry for that rather than Meghan? I don’t believe the fracture between them is wholly due to Harry. I think she’s fed whatever grievances he had for her own ends and egged him on . She doesn’t want William or Catherine having any hold over Harry. She wants to be the one pulling all the strings and have him completely emotionally dependent on her. That’s my take anyway.

I found that unforgivable. Bitching in Spare that his father was less than comprehensible when he spoke to him about getting the flight to Balmoral. Zero thought that Charles was not only losing his mother, but also about to be handed the biggest job of his life (and an almost impossible act to follow), no time for Charles to grieve, straight into the new job and all the circus that follows a new monarch's ascension. Harry only assuaged from further argument when he is told Catherine is not going to Balmoral, all he cares about is competition. Then, the most unforgiveable, final betrayal of his grandmother, writing about her in her state of death to flog his dirty book. And yet he demands and apology from them. I don't have the words for the disgust I feel.

Yes, and in his correction felt compelled to include that she was staying behind "like the Duchess of Cambridge". Imagine seeing the aftermath of the queen's death as an opportunity to compare and compete with your SiL.

I think that sometimes two people don't bring out the best in each other. Meghan comes from the highly competitive world of Hollywood and I don't think she realised that monarchy had a fixed hierarchy that isn't something you can game for greater status. Mix that with Harry who obviously grew up resenting his place in the family (I mean who healthy remembers how many sausages they got as a child) then you have a very toxic mix. I'm not saying they are toxic as people but that neither had the tools to bring the other to a healthy place in this specific set of circumstances.

Isn't that the occasion when she is said to have asked Catherine to walk in hand in hand? Rather than her having to walk behind Catherine as per protocol. That could be why she was pissed off.

I do think it's a bit ironic that there is other footage of Serena Williams' mum blanking/ignoring her in a similar way, it's very awkward.

There's also Scobie tweeting that he Queen's coffin would be transported by train to London. Clearly Harry and Meghan were being fed false information.