Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

Because she mesmerised him - love bombed and future faked - charmed him by stroking and inflating his ego by acting the damsel in distress and casting him as the saviour white knight - he fell deep into that trap.

@Smirke Didn’t he just. He’s been very foolish. She discards everyone once they’ve served their intended purpose.

Idealise, devalue, discard ... the narcs behaviour pattern as they cycle through people they encounter.

And he would be the perfect victim; he strikes me as a person very vulnerable to this type of manipulation.

I've not, No. But that's exactly what the article says - Harry is charming, but an enabler.

This thread is discussing a published article. It's in the public domain - for public comment.

Have you spoken to Meghan irl?

Even a parent who apparently has a head of state visa and the backing of Homeland Security? The political goodwill extended to Meghan (and judges in the US are political actors) and level of protection afforded to her is only there because of Harry.

@Smirke This is probably the best short bullet point I have read around MM. The damsel in distress especially. You could see this starting to play out from when he issued a statement when their relationship first became public.

Someone has mentioned on another thread that there's a Briony Gordon article in today's DM where she defends her friends, Meghan and Harry. Only thing is, Meghan doesn't get a mention beyond the opening, it's all about how nice Harry is.

So true

He was specifically targeted as he was a useful object to bolster her aspirations and ambitions - as were her two previous partners in those particular stages of her life. Rungs on the ladder.

I do think Harry is capable of putting it on, but let's face it: Americans always think posh British men are charming.

Hugh Grant was out picking up trans prostitutes one night, then on TV the next day, wittering on like he was auditioning for the next Richard Curtis romcom. His career didn't miss a beat.

He’s putting out more PR. Invading his own Privacy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9353w0ld73o

Confirming he is doing a family thing on Sunday for his bday, then he’s off with his friends…

It always struck me as odd when the bullying report came out that H&M agreed not to make it public. I mean, if you had been accused of the awful things that M was accused of and the report vindicated you, wouldn't you want the world to know?

And I agree with @MattDamon, an upper-class "British" accent goes a long way in America.

Oh goodness, am now thinking about that Richard Curtis abomination, Love Actually, and that dopey, unattractive British lad going to the US and having gorgeous young women all over him. Maybe that's Harry's fantasy life 😂

Also all these public statements about his 40th….are he loves his kids (usurping Peter Andre here), he’s happy, spending birthday with family and away for a holiday with friends.

Meghan isn’t specifically mentioned anywhere in either the BBC or People article. Not even a Borat ‘ My Wife’ is mentioned.

Meghans latest PR is how she is in chapter of joy, her investing, and again, how much she loves her kids (leaving early to go home and cook for them). Nothing specific about Harry or her work with Harry.

Certainly, neither of them are referencing their producing careers.

Harry in the BBC article is talking about what he plans to do in the next decade and how he’s excited for it- absolutely nothing about producing. Just mentioning his charities and patronages.

Now I don’t know if it’s just a PR strategy - to separate them as a brand because they are seen as too toxic together….or something is afoot between the couple.

Exactly this. She treats him like her minion in public so what is she like in private?

Could this be part of the current push to rehabilitate Harry's reputation in the UK? If so, ironic that it is in the DM.

Unless the DM are taking sides.

Briony G works for the DM now I think (used to be the Telegraph) and she and Harry go back a few years - they were on a podcast about mental health together. It's going to be an opinion/personal piece rather than editorial or royal rota. I don't think the DM care about sides as such, as long as there's a juicy story involved.

But I agree, there's some PR strategy at play here about Harry. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense though. One minute he's apparently missing home and seeking to curry favour with his UK relatives, the next he's calling Oprah his fairy godmother and promoting Spare in a California bookshop.

It may be that he's taken over his own PR after the departure of Josh Kettler, and that's why we are getting the mixed messaging. The People slip up in the article the other day (about the best gift he ever had being his kids), where they gave it away that Harry had emailed them rather than a spokesperson, could be a sign of amateurish dabbling and conflict at home with the messaging going out.

I don't know if anyone watches a YouTuber called River? He seems to be quite well connected and has some celebrities as fans, in the States in particular. Anyway, his gossip - obviously to be taken with the pinch of salt required to season all online gossip - from someone who works for the Sussexes is that Harry's reaction to Catherine's videos was a lot of sobbing. Whether that's because he wishes he was frolicking in the forest and reminiscing about the Fab Three that once was, or because he wishes his PR strategy was that good, is unknown.

He's so irrelevant and washed-up, and so is MM.

They threw it all away when a little self-restraint and patience would have paid off. With the death of the Queen, I bet Charles would have been a lot more lenient with H&M. Instead they blew it.

H fell in lust with her so he wouldn’t have seen the personality flaws. She was pretty stunning then not so much now.

There are snippets of information from Spare that i think shows Harry was in conscious denial about his wife’s actions. Firstly when he mentions the fraught working environment in there office, describing it neutrally - as though tempers fraying, criticism not being viewed as constructive and people stretched across desks crying are things that just happen in workplaces, rather than things being caused by a toxic culture. Then there’s how angry the conversation gets when William talks to him about Meghan’s attitude to their staff.

Plus Val Low reported that when Harry found out Jason Knauff had made an official report about Meghan bullying staff - reportedly he tried to get him to retract it.

These sound like someone who knows there is an issue but has decided to turn a blind eye to it. Because what were his choices? At that stage, he was all in with Meghan, for better or for worse.

I think he was manipulated and whipped up in it and an (unwitting?) active participant - isnt there reports of him harrassing HMTQ dresser about the tiara etc. People like MM whip people up to do their dirty work for them - I imagine PH loved the protecter / white knight role she cast him in.

I’d hazard a guess that he’s devastated about Catherine. There no way that obvious affection for each other wasn’t real.

He’s not the first man to be led by what’s in his trousers and now he knows there’s no way back.

from someone who works for the Sussexes is that Harry's reaction to Catherine's videos was a lot of sobbing.

However his subsequent actions to put out the Polo Netflix announcement a few hours later dont indicate any compassion or respect. Same as their previous reactive communications.

Maybe he was sobbing for the sweet cousin relationships his own children will never had - and reminiscing of the large extended family that sustained and shaped him. You cant buy joy, love and connection that in your isolated, sterile, fake Monte-Shitshow mansion.

MM never had that experience as a child so she wouldnt know the essential warmth and emotional nourishment it provides.

He has had many opporunities to make proactive and public amends - the racism stuff, correct Scobie, call off the Sussex Squad - but he let the kicking continue.