Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

I can’t believe that the irony of that comment has passed you by! 😀

It’s not me making it in to a competition. Just read the endless comments of the pro-royals on here!

I have no idea what’s going on with WME but she’s still on the books and technically has a Netflix deal(although we all know that’s over)

The ones who criticise her as seen as British racists, if she was cancelled, I mean persona non grata….then everybody would …but there’s too many that are scared that it will make them look bad…or worse racist.

I don’t think you seem SS (you seem too rational lol). I do think she deserves a huge amount of the criticism she gets though but I agree that some YouTubers pick on the most ridiculous things sometimes.

There’s no denying, in my opinion, that she has some personality defects that make it hard for people to find her likeable or genuine.

Some of her behaviours are odd (the miming of buying a book, the talking and gesticulating to herself, the embarrassing repetitiveness of the washing up story, the repeating verbatim (both vocally and ‘mime’) of the broken car door story, things that the average person would cringe at themselves with.

Do you mean the whole forum rather than this thread? As I can’t work out what on earth you’re on about.

honestly if it’s distressing you stop clicking and reading, just move on.

im not going to respond further to uou, as I think it’s clear you’re a fan of Harry and Megan which is totally fine, and trying to silence conversation, which is not fine,

Where are the views on here that state the RF are perfect? You have said that is the view on this thread.

How do you know the people who have made a negative comment about the RF are pro RF. You don’t.

If you are a well known couple who are quite happy to wash their dirty laundry in public, make serious accusations in public (and then back track on them) and plenty of evidence points to you treating people in a piss poor way, then you don’t have to be a royalist to have a negative opinion on that.

They are a ‘pair of fucking grifters’ and I don’t think Bill was a royalist 😁

(Edited to say sorry, I missed the header - this was in response to the PP who wondered what the RF are thinking about it all) ...

If they still care at all I'd expect them to be extremely worried for Harry, stuck because of his children in a situation that's spiralling with more and more influential people turning aginst the couple

It's all been gone into before, but clearly neither have the wit, insight or even basic ability to help them cope. All they had was an unrealistic dream, and even that relied on hubris, selling out others and silly noise to prop it up with absolutely nothing of real substance coming from the couple themselves

Unfortunately I don't expect this to end well and I'm sure we all have our own views as to what that'll look like, though what actually happens remains to be seen

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a negative comment about the RF MH/PH are pro RF.

Fair enough I admit that I have not dived very deeply in to any of this and only know the washing up story and not the others.

I don’t know what she is like in reality and in all honesty I don’t really care that much. But I hate loads of people piling on one person all of the time! It doesn’t seem quite fair to me when the RF have some equally divisive characters!

I think another factor in the HR article is the fact that WME were unable/unwilling to stop it being published.

Maybe she already is in a covert way - nothing from WME in 18 months.

Harry has clearly had some protection from the US government wrt his visa. He's the head of state's son of arguably the US's most powerful ally. Does anyone really think he will be treated (by a highly politicised judiciary) as Joe-shmo RegularGuy if he divorces?

I've no idea of the relative clout of WME and the Hollywood Reporter, but bearing in mind the First Amendment would it be possible for them to do that if the story was true?

In any case with the situation spiralling WME can't take on everyone, and may not even wish to try. H&M aren't their only clients and it could easily happen that they'll drop them too

I think this is a hughly important insight.

I'd add another one.

What does Meghan actually do? What is her selling point?

She was a mediocre actress on a cable TV show several years ago, and in any case has said she doesn't want to return to acting. So that's out.

Neither she nor her husband seem to have any other marketable skills. Other, of course, than slagging off his family. And since they've been frozen out for the past 4 years, they have no new material there either. So their USP has expired.

I keep coming back to this, but the reason HR has published this article, and WME appear to have done nothing to stop it, is because she is no longer a hot property and nobody is bothered about making an enemy of her. Whatever you think of the article itself, the fact that it has been published is very bad news for their future in Hollywood.

Good point!

It raises other questions about whatrole WME are playing.

How would WME feel about Harry (or someone using his email account) contacting popular news outlets such as People magazine to set up stories?

Would that be a big no-no (as in, why buy a dog if you're going to bark yourself) or would it be part of a strategy WME was in on?

Is H a client of WME, or is it just M? Edited to add, I should know this by now.

Yes, Ari is a pretty powerful guy in Hollywood too

Just Meghan

It’s not hollywoods reporter first shot at Harry and Megan though. However this is the most personal and direct attack on Megan, the previous report was soft and about their failures.. They obvs don’t fear being sued, and are sure of their source.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/hollywood-winners-losers-2023-1235712279/

I have an extended family member who is unpleasant and unreliable but able to convince people he is charming and intelligent for brief spells. He married a young fantasist who spun all kinds of unlikely tales and together they lurched from one catastrophe to another - all apparently caused by other people. I see traits of the couple's behaviour in H&M. A wrong'un who married an even worse'un.

In the family situation, eventually, she grew up and moved on. What's interesting with H&M is that although M appears to be a mover on type, it is still Royal Harry that opens doors. So I'm not sure who she would move on to? In her world, someone with more money, more power, more influence. But are those guys going to fall for her? It seems she can be charming when she chooses to turn her full beams on, but I can't see the act working on the sort of man she would want.

I wonder if we are in for a separate lives in separate countries "but we are still very much in love" scenario. Followed by the sort of leaking from both sides that will make Charles & Diana's break up look tame. And remember there is no QE2 to order them to stop it and divorce. I can't see Charles doing it.

I have been making the same point actually; how does anyone know that the people who have made a comment on behalf of one side, are necessarily supporters of the other?

They don’t! And yet if a Republican makes a an anti RF comment, they are automatically accused of being pro- H & M. You see it on these threads all of the time and yet individual viewpoints are just that!

As for Bill Simons, beloved of sports jocks everywhere, the same “Bill” who has been criticised for lack of diversity in his staff and who faced widespread criticism when he made an off colour comment about the chances of a local sports team, comparing fans feelings to “lingering trauma” over the murder of Martin Luther King; he doesn’t sound like the most objective of judges to me!

She needs to divorce to have the full Princess Diana storyline she wants, so I have no doubt it will happen.

I think when the kids get a little older, Harry will spend more and more time in the UK and then eventually divorce

As for Bill Simons, beloved of sports jocks everywhere, the same “Bill” who has been criticised for lack of diversity in his staff and who faced widespread criticism when he made an off colour comment about the chances of a local sports team, comparing fans feelings to “lingering trauma” over the murder of Martin Luther King; he doesn’t sound like the most objective of judges to me!

Very surprised then that H&M with their promiment virtue signaling ever even considered collabortaing with him?

Maybe the $$$$$ turned their heads and over rode their fine 'principles'

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I’m wondering, as someone who claims not to be a die hard supporter of the couple, at what point do you start to question whether what you are seeing in this couple might actually be a facade?

Did you feel the same way earlier this year when the most dreadful things were being said about Catherine ? NOTHING that Meghan has had said about her is as bad as that .

She needs to divorce to have the full Princess Diana storyline she wants, so I have no doubt it will happen.

That may well be her thinking, Twistybranch. But she doesn't have a fraction of Diana's starpower. (And even Diana's was beginning to wane by the time of her death). Is she honestly that deluded?