Meghans trademark not allowed

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The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

Thanks @thecrossIambearing - was it not shared care after MM was 10? Has anyone of the M family officially said why (not interested in speculation) - I expect if it was somehing dubious SM would have shot her mouth off.

*I spotted an interesting note in that Mail article:

"But the vice-president's office also revealed that Harry and Meghan paid for their own flights and accommodation in Bogota as well as general expenses."

That's very surprising to me if that's the case, but if it's true*

This would make the issue of funding for tours to Botswana and Lesotho interesting. Both somewhat impoverished countries. I suppose if they funnel it through Archewell it doesn't matter but that must mean there needs to be much more negotiation about where they will go , where they will stay, what they will do., security etc. Not just descend and have a tour and events arranged for them.

It's like days of old when Kings like Henry V111 would visit parts of the country and descend on some poor "favoured" nobleman who had to host the whole court retinue for weeks at a time putting on hunting parties and feasts, often redecorating a bedroom especially for the sovereign all at their own expense.

If Doria was absent for a good number of years it is strange that the reason hasn't been disclosed.

I think social media makes it far too easy to make massive mistakes these days.

Launching ARO didn’t really need anything other than a logo, some jam, a dodgy promo in another cosplay dress and a website did it. It’s too easy to over look the technicalities, legalities and complexities of launching a business or having a coherent comms strategy when you’re sucked into the Adrenalin rush of likes and comments and reposts on social media, which is how they measure their success despite claiming not to be on SM.

This is why the palace gets it right, because it has been doing comms etc since long before SM came along and it knows how and why the big stuff matters.

As for childhood trauma, I do empathise with this. But they have, and have always had, limitless support, help, expertise and guidance from people around them whether it’s their staff and lawyers, or their A-list pseudo-pals in Hollywood. There are many people who experience trauma who have no support whatsoever. Harry also consistently overlooks the fact that William went through the same thing, and behaves as though he was the only person affected.

They’ve chosen not to listen and to continue behaving and treating people the way they do. Potentially this is because there are also people like NF who seem to be wilfully exploiting them and their insecurities…. Polo is a perfect case in point. How could anyone do that?? I suspect that’s why so many staff have left, they come in knowing their job and being experts in their field but wake up one morning and all their work has gone out of the window because one of them decided to do a stupid new video, or agree to a speech, or accept an award, or finds a new way to attack their family. For that reason my sympathy for them is limited.

@EigerTheTiger - you make excellent points about H&M and their choice not to move on, or work towards dealing with issues. I always think about the Sussex Squad bullying Sean Lennon - how did his father die? How old was Sean?
What about Caroline Kennedy? Her father publicly and violently murdered, then her uncle, and her only sibling killed as a young man?
Neither of them has made victimhood a career.
I could go on.
Harry has never had to wait on an NHS list. He can pick up the phone and have as much therapy as he wants. In my opinion, the victim narrative suits him. It suits her as well.

Meghan despite her talk of feminism and women's empowerment is utterly male focused. Her default setting is to gaze adoringly and intensely at the most powerful male in the room. It is quite disconcerting. Maybe not having her mother around led her to look to the nearest male for status and protection.

Meghan has sought out the role of a trad wife, hasn't she, @StartupRepair ?
She could have been VP of the Commonwealth Trust, National Theatre patron etc. Instead, she wears clothes, clings onto her husband and makes jam.

Yup. She had incredible opportunities given to her that she could never had got anywhere close to achieving on her own, rather limited, talents. She could now have been a powerful patron and supporter of Drama, British film, theatre etc. her speeches would have been "assisted" to avoid the word salad and she could have been garnering respect on the international stage for her advocacy and projects. They could still have enjoyed a lot of the time in the USA but they would have been hanging out with actual famous people.
instead she's hanging on OW's coat tails and currying favour with a bunch of D list nobodies that nobody has heard of, going to book store openings and coming out with endless drivel for which she is relentlessly ribbed.

they had it all and threw it all back in the face of the royal family through petty jealousy and spite.

I see what you’re saying, but I think of a trad wife as a house wife. And Megan doesn’t want to be a house wife. She just wants money, glamour, fame, for herself, with as little work as possible.

i don’t think she could have been all the things mentioned as she’s both a bit thick and completely lazy, she’d only be able to be those things if she was a different person entirely, or be them for any length of time.

Agree, and it seems a legal reason not to, which indicates injunction or super injunction. no one comes forward and says they knew her. It is nowhere. It was many many years and is one of the most hush things I’m aware of.

Exactly. They are doing it their own way and looking like a massive pair of twits.

The secrecy is rather bizarre as there can't have been the legal cover up instruments in place through her teens and younger adulthood prior to her meeting Harry. She wasn't famous enough for anyone to bother. I suppose if it was just not spoken about then not many people would know but family must know and they don't seem to have spoken about it publicly.

Could have been anything. Not dealing with parenthood, her health, her parents health, wanting to learn a new skill, didn’t want her dc around. A myriad of reasons.

www.mercurynews.com/2022/11/01/meghan-markle-omits-dad-from-new-origin-story-about-mom-juggling-to-raise-her/amp/

Meghan would have been thoroughly out of her depth with a National Theatre etc patronage. She loves glamour, celebrity pals, an ultra-expensive lifestyle… Shakespeare? With only stage actors? Nah. Some people might have knuckled down and been determined to learn and appreciate . But I really don’t think Meghan could have been bothered.

Thanks @thecrossIambearing for that article - thats a fascinating article - looks like she had a very comfortable and priviledged upbringing from a material and educational stanpoint which supported and encourged her aspirations. It also seems that she had a relatively stable emotional childhood with two calm parents who although separated co-parented very well throughout.

Do we know if TM or DR had any further partners. Did she have step parents / step siblings to contend with?

Also did she have extended family in the area - aunts / cousins etc from her mothers side maybe?

More about the bookstore opening here.
I did read the article, maybe I wasn't concentrating hard enough. I barely understood any of it. It's all bonkers.

Harry curating a bookshop's name? And having all these "fairy Godmothers"?

"The outlet also revealed that Prince Harry, 39, played a part in curating the bookshop's name, as he had, at his own book party in Beverley Hills, thanked Oprah, Victoria and Jennifer for being his 'fairy godmothers'."

And why does any of it make people feel like crying???

"Speaking about Godmothers on her Instagram, Jennifer said: 'I just love it. People come in here and the phrase we hear over and over again is "I don't know why but this makes me feel like crying.""

'And that makes me feel like crying because I know why, because we've put so much love and intention into everything.
'It's like - you know when you just take a bite of pound cake and you're like why is this so delicious. Oh it's the butter? Well the butter is the love in this and it's buttery and delicious.
'And people are feeling that and they're feeling like they've found a home away from home.'"

They should call the store "Crybabies"

They obviously all speak a different language to the rest of us.

Anyway. Take a look at that coffee table tome.

Prince Harry dubs Oprah one of his 'fairy godmothers'

mol.im/a/13835013

It just occurred to me that Camilla has been getting a fair bit of publicity surrounding her Reading Room book club and her promotion of literacy recently. Coincidence that this seems to have become the Sussexes latest passion? I wonder 🤔

It’s a bloody bookstore!!

It’s jumping on the “aesthetic bookshop” instagrammy thing. Meghan has probably only read The Rules and the only thing Harry has read is Spare (out loud for the audiobook, and with his finger following the words).

I just despair. Where is this all going to end?

Well it seems that they will repeat the history of both their own childhoods and live separate co-parenting lives as well as separate careers .... all the puff pieces from the H&M camp in the last few weeks have been laying the ground for his part time return to the UK.

I wonder how they will position his 40th Bday celebrations - I suspect it will be a roll-call from WME or any other corporate collaboration they are negotating classed as 'close friends' - I wonder who from his old friends and family will step up?

I’ve always thought that because of her childhood, she’s trying to recreate something she didn’t have.

By all accounts, she was the perfect pupil, perfect friend growing up, perfect handwriting etc…..Except…… her home life wasn’t exactly the stuff of white pickets fences. I think that annoyed her, marked her out as different and she always wants to be on top.

I think she wrote a poem about her home life when she was a kid, wishing for the traditional family, she also seemed to very into vintage Archie comics which would have only had stereotypical white high schoolers in it and traditional family set ups (so always thought was a weird choice). Both H&M have talked about coming from divorced families.

So I think she acts the trad wife because it fills in something she didn’t have, to have the ‘perfect’ life. Now she’s married a Prince and will do anything to make out she now the perfect wife/mother. It’s telling that she named Lilibet after two women she never really knew, she never even met Diana. Yet her mother, who by all accounts I think we will agree has been dignified in keeping her silence and has supported the couple through everything…didn’t get the honour?
I think she was unconsciously punishing her mother, because she wasn’t the trad wife who gave her the perfect childhood

That article is spin, it’s far from true. It’s what Megan wants people to think. She’d rewriting history to a to a romantic sanitised version.

where Doria was is not known, it is known she was not close, originally Megan said she moved away to be a yoga teacher, the story has been honed to the nonsense in this article

tom bowers said in his book he could not say where Doria was due to a legal restriction.

There was favour to be curried by using lillibet and Diana. There was no benefit to using the name Doria. I think it’s that simple.

As @IsoldeWagner said earlier:
Harry has never had to wait on an NHS list. He can pick up the phone and have as much therapy as he wants. In my opinion, the victim narrative suits him. It suits her as well

Just what else does either of them have to exploit other than his family? Re- spewing the same stuff out ad infinitum is all he has and she’s there firmly pressing the repeat button.