Meghans trademark not allowed

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The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

scouring my memory of the western literary canon for incidences of head football

Only on mumnset would you read a sentence like that! Makes reading endless LTB threads (knowing they won't) almost worthwhile!

He has had loads of therapy . Either it’s the wrong type or the wrong therapist or maybe he simply doesn’t listen.

I think it must be the latter. He's had years of therapy, pre dating Meghan. Of course you have to do the work and you have to engage. He probably only wants to hear certain things. That's why it's not working.

If the purported visit to those countries is connected to charities Harry supports, why should Meghan be there at all?

Well, indeed. There's been no need for her to participate in any Invictus events, other than as a spectator, but there she is.

Absolutely. Despite all the therapy, it's as if a large part of him is fossilised as that tragic 12 year old boy, in a way its become his identity and he needs to get beyond that, somehow. I'm not sure that he's getting proper encouragement and support to do so, sadly.

I think the same . I can't believe that they haven't seen some of the criticism themselves , yet they still blunder on.

I read on another platform from a poster who I thought was quite astute. I won’t quote them but to paraphrase: Meghan can’t get past being an eleven year old ‘activist’ and is stuck there emotionally and Harry can’t get past being twelve, when his mother died, and is stuck there emotionally. So basically you have this 11yr old and this 12yr old cosplaying adults and they can’t handle it. That image has really stuck with me.

That's very interesting. I know Meghan may not have had a conventional childhood in many ways but from all I know, the trauma for Harry was very probably greater in terms anyone can grasp. The combination does account for the disaster.

That's a great observation @BunnyLake . For a supposedly very accomplished woman, her semi-fictitious win against P&G at age 11 seems to be the only one she's willing to discuss in any great depth. It's sad if you think about it, because clearly nothing else in her life has surpassed it.

I think thr fact Megan grew up without her mother impacted her deeply, this wasn’t her mother passed, this was her mother was absent. And for a very long time, throughout her formative years. Wanting her mother but not being able to have her. The reason why is a closely guarded secret. But I think something very damaging occurred.

and Harry grew up without his mother, she did pass, and something very damaging happened there too.

and that thing, with both their mothers, impacted them both greatly. It links them, that damage, it connects them. In a way that’s deeply unhealthy for both of them.

That featured in a movie called "The Horsemen" (1971) starring Omar Sharif. Probably much more interesting than Harry's effort and you're only investing and hour and a half in total.

I have to give credit to the original person who came up with this view but I think they were spot on.

Both of them need to move on, because it's defining them and holding them back. It's also making them co-dependent.

What was the age that Doria was 'absent' and she was in TM care?

I understand that they all lived together until she was 2 (including TMs 2 older teens) then Doria left with MM.....when did she move back in with her DF and for how long? Was Doria absent or was it just logistics - I understood she was working in the travel business - maybe crazy irregular shifts?

Harry and Megan will always be stuck in their childhoods. I don’t think they can move on, it’s a defining part of who they are. It was too big for both of them. Megan buries it. Pretends it didn’t happen. Harry can’t stop talking about it. Both mothers loom large.

I bet people will watch that polo documentary though. Not because they are fans of H&M but just because they want to see the batshittery at first hand.

I think the most entertaining batshittery will be heavily edited and the result will be along the lines of the worthy but snoringly dull Invictus.

Surely only so many braying toffs in jodphurs even the most ardent Harold fan can tolerate.

It’s obvious that neither can adult in a healthy and functional way. There are two children in this relationship and its not Archie and Lilly.

Surely only so many braying toffs in jodphurs even the most ardent Harold fan can tolerate.

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God spare us from another bloody faux Royal tour! What H&M don't seem to realise is that more doesn't = better.

It's like they did the Nigeria tour which seemed to go pretty well on the whole (in that they got lots of publicity and were feted by the locals and made a big fuss of), so they immediately decide to rinse and repeat in Columbia, when they get much less coverage (partly due to their own restrictions), the response is much more mixed and the tour attracts more criticism. And now they decide to do another one before the year is out? It's going to be massively diminishing returns and I'm sure the more they do them, the more criticism they'll attract and the less interest they'll get. Bizarre.

I spotted an interesting note in that Mail article:

"But the vice-president's office also revealed that Harry and Meghan paid for their own flights and accommodation in Bogota as well as general expenses."

That's very surprising to me if that's the case, but if it's true it makes the Columbia tour look like even more of a pay to play set up. Of course it won't have been from their own pockets as they'll have funnelled it through Archewell to write off as expenses, but even so - it's a bit odd to invite someone as your guest and then expect them to cover their own costs, so they can't have been wanted that much!

no I don’t think they can function in a healthy manner, harry is very obviously mentally unwell or has some form of personality disorder, maybe both, and I genuinely believe megan does too, narcissism, insecurity, paranoia, who knows.

This coupled with the fact they are both a bit thick, I mean you’d need to be to do the daft shit they do, for example. who’d launch aro with no products or ip, and it all makes it a disaster.

i do wonder if both had present , hands on, stable mothers they’d be different people today. Still thick, but maybe more sensible.

sadly I fear the long term effects on those little ones. Immature dysfunctional parents are not likely to raise well adjusted children of their own which makes it even more imperative that they get some help and sort out their issues.
As a side note I saw a video of them at a basketball event ( I think ) . it was an invictus one ( again I think) . Meghan was wearing v short shorts and clinging to Harrys hand and she just looked so childlike it was striking. She was dressed and acting like a little girl clinging to her fathers hand and it struck me how v insecure they both actually are. So yes I agree about being stuck in childhood trauma.

I've read Spare - it's essentially a long primal scream for his mum.

And it is likely to be very damaging to have a mum who makes choices that mean she's not around very much (for whatever reason).

I think PP who have theorised that they are both stuck are right. It's a painful place to be and I genuinely hope they can both find some peace and happiness. I'm not sure I can see a path towards that that they would actually take.

sadly I fear the long term effects on those little ones. Immature dysfunctional parents are not likely to raise well adjusted children of their own

And with no extended family except Doria.

Has TM, MM or SM ever said why MM spent a significant amount of time living permanently with her Dad? Is there anything in Finding Freedom etc?

I read today that she was 10 when she went to live with him permanently. Before that it was shared care.