Meghans trademark not allowed

[Viviennemary]

The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

Oh god I forgot about that, closely followed by them cheering in the streets in Africa when they married,

Ditto Tom Cruise, a massive Hollywood hitter and as close as there is to a proper old style film star these days. Ubiquitous at proper royal events and seems friendly with William and Kate.

Charles didn't say that, at least make sure your quotes are accurate

You cannot blame "the media" for the "cropped" stills or any other official footage that came out of Colombia. It was tightly controlled by the Sussexes, so they have released pictures of what they want you to see. However, phone footage will start to trickle out inevitably showing (literally) a different angle. We have no idea if Harry was "relegated" or whether he was prevented from sitting down at the top table because everyone just sat down and he was an afterthought. I am guessing he may have been put him in the corner because the wine tasting guy was speaking in Spanish and they needed Harry's translator to be discreetly and discretely placed, for optics and so the other guests wouldn't be disturbed by him talking. However, there's no way the highest ranked person in the room (whether we like it or not, Harry) would have been treated like that on a royal visit.

I saw the "B" role footage yesterday of the part of the Nigeria trip where they visited a school for Invictus. It's interesting to see how stage managed the whole thing was, with children being used as props, but not much genuine interaction. Actually, Harry does seem to try to connect at the end of the filming with the "extras" in saying thank you to them. Meghan's not interested.

WRT Harry carrying on flying in the US, if he can indeed fly: I assume even the most liberal of states has some sort of health and safety checks of pilots, and regular drug users weeded out (pardon the pun) to prevent accidents.

Edit for typo

Actually his drug use is an important point, wasn’t he luckily off base at one of the testings? And he was still using when he had Archie, as he wrote about an evening on it in spare after they left.

i do believe habitual and prolonged drug use, even weed, can have very negative impacts, from paranoia on.

Manypaws
Charles hasn't got the same worldwide respect. I think he's a figure of ridicule with his "I wish I was your tampon" history with his side piece.

Hopefully when Will is King we get a monarch worthy of respect.

Shame on you for such a nasty, ignorant post - I assume your 'many paws' are extremely catty ones.

As a pp said, Charles didn't say this.

Do you understand that this was part of a very private, intimate conversation which was bugged/tapped (or whatever you call it) by the press, illegally? Is it OK to expose and humiliate people in this way? Ask yourself that. I feel sympathy for Charles and Camilla on this - and surely any decent person would. Otherwise, you are in the same camp as people who use revenge-porn, aren't you? NIce.

Also, I judge people on other things. Charles has for decades gained my respect through his championing of environmental issues, his work with The Prince's Trust and other projects. He's been mocked by many stupid and thoughtless people, but he's a shy, socially-awkward man in a demanding role, and I take my hat off to him.

He's also suffering from cancer, so well done for your kind remarks.

And 'side piece'. How misogynistic and judgemental can you get?

Words fail me - you ARE a charmer.

Despite what Harry's done I've not the least doubt they are worried, which may be another reason they're avoiding the sort of public comment which could make matters even worse

None of us know what if anything they're saying to each other behind the scenes, and if this ends very badly for Harry the family need - if only for the sake of their own image - to avoid finger pointing

Though it wouldn't stop those who like to pretend they know everything that's going on

I agree with you. That was an intimate phone call between two consenting adults in a relationship, that was Illegally tapped. Who amongst us can say our sexy talk stands up to public scrutiny and who hasn’t said something daft or embarrassing in a jokey moment, the conversation was illegally recorded then published globally to humiliate him.

shame on anyone still using it, and worse, not even getting it right.

It’s like the emperor’s new clothes. The people who could call her out don’t for fear of (what exactly?) but the ordinary folk are standing there looking at the ‘emperor’ and the lackeys, thinking they’re all mad or spineless.

I saw the "B" role footage yesterday of the part of the Nigeria trip where they visited a school for Invictus. It's interesting to see how stage managed the whole thing was, with children being used as props, but not much genuine interaction

Not "much" interaction, @Americanpseudoroyaltorture??
If I'm not mistaken that was the event with appalling footage of Meghan disrespecting the lady telling her about abuse. She didn't even pretend to be interested, instead focusing on the opportunity for cutesy images with the children

So much for the acting credentials ...

However, there's no way the highest ranked person in the room (whether we like it or not, Harry) would have been treated like that on a royal visit.

I've realised who they remind me of, with Meghan always the centre of attention and Harry in the background looking gormless, it's Tony Hale and Julia Louis Dreyfus in Veep.

The rest of the RF must be agog at how Harry always looks like an afterthought.

Charles has for decades gained my respect through his championing of environmental issues, his work with The Prince's Trust and other projects....

All of this. And Camilla too has won my respect and admiration. She took on a role she never wanted, at an age when most people are slowing down. She has taken up violence against women as one of her causes. In public her appearance and conduct are always impeccable. She looks interested and engaged when on solo engagements, and never tries to draw attention to herself when with the King. In private, the King has made clear what a tremendous support she is.

It's an interesting point about Harry not (seemingly) flying for recreation in the states.

But actually, it's strange generally that for a person with so much wealth and privilege, who isn't busy working for a living, that he doesn't seem to have much in the way of hobbies, or pastimes that he enjoys and brings him fulfilment.

For example, although he plays polo, it seems to be on rare occasions for charity matches and so on - and not on his own ponies when he does.

I could be wrong and he could have a stable of ponies and play very regularly but I'd expect there to be more press about it if he did.

It's hard to work out why. Is it because he's so stingy that he doesn't want to fork out his own cash to pay for his hobbies, or so paranoid about press intrusion that he's shut himself away? Or is some of it Meghan's influence?

The truth is Meghan Markle is a reasonably pretty woman, with a beautiful voice and a weird talent for making total nonsense sound meaningful and important

I’m always surprised to hear people say she has a nice voice. I’m hearing a hard tone with some vocal fry. I can’t listen to it.

He doesn't have a private pilot licence so he would have to do it from scratch. I guess he could afford it but maybe lacks the inclination. He seems to have an external locus. Without someone expecting him to put the effort in, he simply doesn't.

@elessar - from what JR Moehringer said (his ghost writer), I think he exists at quite a slow pace ("glacial"). I suspect he's one of those people who, after meditation, personal trainer sessions (both daily), feeding chickens etc can spin out the day.

He’s a gamer isn’t he, he stays up all night gaming, (suspect doing some weed). Isn’t that what he basically said in spare ? We have all met the type. But yes basically he pulls very late hours gaming.

Yes, he said that in Spare. Gaming and having a spliff.

Her voice just sounds fairly normal to me. But I think you’d need to be a proper proper fan to think she makes nonsense sound meaningful and interesting.

WRT Harry carrying on flying in the US, if he can indeed fly: I assume even the most liberal of states has some sort of health and safety checks of pilots, and regular drug users weeded out (pardon the pun) to prevent accidents.

The US aeromedical system and aviation licensing system does now offer some forgiveness to previous light recreational drugs users, subject to caveats.

H could have taken up flying in the States but he would have had to some degree go back to school to gain a US civilian licence.

Problem there is the longer you are away from flying the more protracted the licensing process becomes, but plenty of Brits have spent the money and managed it.

I would have thought if nothing else enrolling in flight school might give him an excuse to get out of the house mansion but maybe he is simply happiest finding around on his bike.

Not sure if you are conflating 2 trips here or if I am not understanding what you are saying. S. Africa (when she was appallingly disrespectful to the young mother talking about her HIV/abuse experiences) was during her time as a royal. If you were being generous, you could say she was unhappy as a royal, a new mum, out of her depth etc etc, and that manifested in her rudeness.

Nigeria was her own private "tour" carried out on her terms, putting her front and centre and designed for her to connect with "her people", being a 43% Nigerian, newly anointed princess of the country. And yet we see that it was nothing but a film set, where the extras are only there to be interacted with when the script requires their involvement in the narrative set down for the main characters. Her chance to show herself to the full as the philanthropist, humanitarian people's princess for the modern era, someone with a natural touch and genuine interest in young lives is just is not on display in what I saw. No excuses this time. This was her tour, no men in grey to blame.

So my conclusion is that, for Meghan, all the world's a stage, she's the star, everyone else is a bit part player who ceases to exist when the camera in not on her.

He seems utterly directionless and bored.

All these apparent projects and he seems incapable of knuckling down and doing anything with any of them.

And he could have been given the seat with the leg!

I think Harry’s really just at home in upper class Britain.

He’s been dazzled by the idea of Californian-style celebrity fame and followers. But it’s not a world he knows or understands. And he’s probably too alien and adrift in that world to exist in it anyway: his doubtful behaviour towards his family is just good old fashioned bitterness; it’s not some enlightened, West Coast-inspired ‘therapeutic’ catharsis.

I’m sure that in the evenings he’d really like to be around a dinner table in a Chelsea mews house with people he understands and that understand him.