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Viviennemary · 03/09/2024 17:09

The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

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IsoldeWagner · 08/09/2024 07:36

I agree with you, @flapjackfairy , I wonder if there was some sort of problem which has become magnified with the marriage to Harry and subsequent events. It's very odd.
The Cut interview compounded my thoughts on this.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 08/09/2024 07:38

RedRosesPinkLilies · 08/09/2024 01:57

I do think the RF must worry about Harry on a personal/ actual family level, as well as official level. I think he’s been vulnerable to manipulation- but isn’t a great person at taking responsibility for his actions either.
a complete mess of a situation

I think they must rue the day he met her imo. Nothing worse than watching a loved one implode and not be able to do anything about it. And worse to be on the receiving end of it.

EigerTheTiger · 08/09/2024 08:21

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 08/09/2024 07:38

I think they must rue the day he met her imo. Nothing worse than watching a loved one implode and not be able to do anything about it. And worse to be on the receiving end of it.

Agree. I think they probably all knew he had this in him and that to an extent she’s enabled it / taken advantage of it, whichever way you want to look at it.

Thing is he keeps getting millions and millions in inheritances too, it’s only now he’s out of the RF and you start to see some of his spending that you start to realise just how utterly enormous their privelege really is. Until then it was all kept under wraps. And I actually don’t think he realises this at all, he just thinks he’s entitled to it, and more.

This must be part of the problem, he’s now not even giving anything back to the world or country by way of recognition of this enormous wealth they have, everything they do they charge huge fees for on the back of his title whilst also getting in the extra feom trust funds.

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:25

I was out with some couple friends the other night, the men in the group the sort who wouldn’t give harry and Megan a second thought. You know what I mean. Curiously someone mentioned them, and one of the men piped up “I think that blokes got something wrong with him. The stuff he does, I really think he’s got something wrong with him”

and two things struck me, if this guy has noticed then wow, as he’s not the sort to, and I think Harry does have something wrong with him.

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence, they just gave it to him and never let him fly, and that very low iq is the root of many of the issues. And it’s coupled with some form of personality disorder or mental health issues.

and those issues have always been there. Growing up. We all know the wild child antics, the spitefullness and falsities in spare. When you look at them through the lens of low iq/mental health issues, then they start to make sense. Everything starts to make sense.

i suspect Harry genuinely doesn’t understand why everyone thinks poorly of him, because he doesn’t have the wit to do so.

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 08:27

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 08/09/2024 07:38

I think they must rue the day he met her imo. Nothing worse than watching a loved one implode and not be able to do anything about it. And worse to be on the receiving end of it.

He seems to have imploded in terms of having a working life (of service, or whatever) as it's a bit scattergun and has yet to show achievement since he left)

But it can only be speculation about whether he finds happiness in his personal life. I can remember him saying, years ago, how much he wanted to be a father. He's now got the wife of his choice and two young children, forming the family he craved.

And whereas his wider family might well deplore everything he has done to invade privacy and cast aspersions (and keep a distance as he cannot be trusted to refrain from misrepresentation), that's not the same as watching him implode totally. He might be (and I hope is) happy with his family life, and prefer to have everything run by his wife.

flapjackfairy · 08/09/2024 08:38

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 08:27

He seems to have imploded in terms of having a working life (of service, or whatever) as it's a bit scattergun and has yet to show achievement since he left)

But it can only be speculation about whether he finds happiness in his personal life. I can remember him saying, years ago, how much he wanted to be a father. He's now got the wife of his choice and two young children, forming the family he craved.

And whereas his wider family might well deplore everything he has done to invade privacy and cast aspersions (and keep a distance as he cannot be trusted to refrain from misrepresentation), that's not the same as watching him implode totally. He might be (and I hope is) happy with his family life, and prefer to have everything run by his wife.

but he doesn't look like a man who is happy to have everything run by his wife a lot of the time . I know the media can pick and choose images to support the narrative but the mask has slipped too many times in public for there not to be something behind it . That last tour when he was sat slightly apart from Meghan who was with the big wigs said it all. He is relegated and a lot of the time looked pissed off. And there are persistent rumours about him having a room in a local.hotel to escape to. Who.knows the truth of it all but it doesn't look good though I am sure his children are everything to him but is that enough in the long term to make him happy?.

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 08:38

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence,

Well, there were rumours that the level of input he received for his A levels could be construed as cheating, and didn't a teacher get in to trouble about that? (Not mentioned by Harry at the time or since)

The A level results he got took him in to Sandhurst (he met the min requirement of the day - he wouldn't get in now on those grades)

But I don't think there can be anything hooky about his pilot training - everyone on his intake will know how each is doing, so you can't cover up poor performance. And there would have been leaks if he wasn't really flying - so much of the Army and wider military would know and it was bound to creep out either during his career or in the nearly 10 years since he left it

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:44

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 08:38

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence,

Well, there were rumours that the level of input he received for his A levels could be construed as cheating, and didn't a teacher get in to trouble about that? (Not mentioned by Harry at the time or since)

The A level results he got took him in to Sandhurst (he met the min requirement of the day - he wouldn't get in now on those grades)

But I don't think there can be anything hooky about his pilot training - everyone on his intake will know how each is doing, so you can't cover up poor performance. And there would have been leaks if he wasn't really flying - so much of the Army and wider military would know and it was bound to creep out either during his career or in the nearly 10 years since he left it

Apparently he failed his pilots exams a couple of times, then suddenly passsed, but he was never ever a pilot. He never once piloted an apache…that says something I think.

notimagain · 08/09/2024 08:45

@Rumshotsandrainshowers

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence, they just gave it to him and never let him fly,

Well AFAIK his only flying as a pilot was in the UK military (I’ll get back to that) so he will never have held a licence, but even so I don’t buy your theory at all.

There are plenty around who witnessed him going through helicopter training at places like Shawbury and elsewhere.

You really don’t get far in any form of professional flying role if you are low IQ or thick as a plank….flying is very unforgiving of inattention so if he had been a problem student he would have been chopped gently guided into something more suitable before he had killed himself.

What I do think is more interesting is he flew for just as long as his Army career and the PR required it, then unlike his brother he dropped it…completely.

H is or was relatively loaded, now lives in one of the cheapest places in the world to take up recreational flying, appears to have time on his hands yet the closest he gets to aviation appears to be cadging a ride on somebody’s biz jet…hence a lot of the grumbles about him getting the aviation legends award.

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 08:47

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:44

Apparently he failed his pilots exams a couple of times, then suddenly passsed, but he was never ever a pilot. He never once piloted an apache…that says something I think.

It's known that he failed once but passed on a resit (something that's not particularly uncommon)

And I agree with @Rumshotsandrainshowers about the rest

Mylovelygreendress · 08/09/2024 08:48

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:25

I was out with some couple friends the other night, the men in the group the sort who wouldn’t give harry and Megan a second thought. You know what I mean. Curiously someone mentioned them, and one of the men piped up “I think that blokes got something wrong with him. The stuff he does, I really think he’s got something wrong with him”

and two things struck me, if this guy has noticed then wow, as he’s not the sort to, and I think Harry does have something wrong with him.

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence, they just gave it to him and never let him fly, and that very low iq is the root of many of the issues. And it’s coupled with some form of personality disorder or mental health issues.

and those issues have always been there. Growing up. We all know the wild child antics, the spitefullness and falsities in spare. When you look at them through the lens of low iq/mental health issues, then they start to make sense. Everything starts to make sense.

i suspect Harry genuinely doesn’t understand why everyone thinks poorly of him, because he doesn’t have the wit to do so.

I think this is a very good post .
By coincidence my husband - who has zero interest in the RF- said something recently very similar to what your friend said . He also commented ( as have others) how well protected by the RF he had been .
The daughter of one of my friends behaves very like Meghan ; sees herself as an expert in everything ( she isn’t!), how she is stopped in the street to be told how beautiful she is etc etc. She is definitely neurodivergent.

notimagain · 08/09/2024 08:49

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:44

Apparently he failed his pilots exams a couple of times, then suddenly passsed, but he was never ever a pilot. He never once piloted an apache…that says something I think.

What are these magical “pilot exams” he supposedly failed?

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 08:49

notimagain · 08/09/2024 08:45

@Rumshotsandrainshowers

i suspect he has a very low iq.i don’t think he genuinely passed his school exams or got his pilots licence, they just gave it to him and never let him fly,

Well AFAIK his only flying as a pilot was in the UK military (I’ll get back to that) so he will never have held a licence, but even so I don’t buy your theory at all.

There are plenty around who witnessed him going through helicopter training at places like Shawbury and elsewhere.

You really don’t get far in any form of professional flying role if you are low IQ or thick as a plank….flying is very unforgiving of inattention so if he had been a problem student he would have been chopped gently guided into something more suitable before he had killed himself.

What I do think is more interesting is he flew for just as long as his Army career and the PR required it, then unlike his brother he dropped it…completely.

H is or was relatively loaded, now lives in one of the cheapest places in the world to take up recreational flying, appears to have time on his hands yet the closest he gets to aviation appears to be cadging a ride on somebody’s biz jet…hence a lot of the grumbles about him getting the aviation legends award.

I’m afraid I didn’t say he didn’t go through the training. I said he got qualified and they never let him pilot. This is a fact. Every other royal was allowed to. Harry wasn’t. Why do you think this is if he was smart enough to qualify?

notimagain · 08/09/2024 08:57

I’m afraid I didn’t say he didn’t go through the training. I said he got qualified and they never let him pilot. This is a fact.

No it’s no a fact.

I know at least one person who was at Shawbury at the time H went through his basic course and they state H got through that course fine (that course include solo flying, so he did “pilot”.)

I also have a slightly dated direct knowledge of how flying training works (military and civil) and what’s involved in the way of exams and tests and I don’t have a problem with his claimed flying history.

Now what he was allowed to do when in Afghanistan on OPs is another matter.

Edit to add: Any claims H never held a licence quite possibly are true, simply because UK mil don’t (or at least didn’t in my time in the services) issue physical licence in the way the civvies do.

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 09:00

notimagain · 08/09/2024 08:57

I’m afraid I didn’t say he didn’t go through the training. I said he got qualified and they never let him pilot. This is a fact.

No it’s no a fact.

I know at least one person who was at Shawbury at the time H went through his basic course and they state H got through that course fine (that course include solo flying, so he did “pilot”.)

I also have a slightly dated direct knowledge of how flying training works (military and civil) and what’s involved in the way of exams and tests and I don’t have a problem with his claimed flying history.

Now what he was allowed to do when in Afghanistan on OPs is another matter.

Edit to add: Any claims H never held a licence quite possibly are true, simply because UK mil don’t (or at least didn’t in my time in the services) issue physical licence in the way the civvies do.

Edited

You do understand you’re avoiding the question. Again I am not talking about training. No one is disputing he trained. I am saying he never ever piloted post training, he failed, then resat, they passed him, closed the training and he was never ever a pilot. Jeez when the aviation award came out one of the top brass publicly stated harry was never a pilot so shouldn’t accept. It is a fact.

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 09:01

flapjackfairy · 08/09/2024 08:38

but he doesn't look like a man who is happy to have everything run by his wife a lot of the time . I know the media can pick and choose images to support the narrative but the mask has slipped too many times in public for there not to be something behind it . That last tour when he was sat slightly apart from Meghan who was with the big wigs said it all. He is relegated and a lot of the time looked pissed off. And there are persistent rumours about him having a room in a local.hotel to escape to. Who.knows the truth of it all but it doesn't look good though I am sure his children are everything to him but is that enough in the long term to make him happy?.

That the media can pick and choose pictures that suit their narrative at the time, magnified by SEO reporting, means that it can be very misleading indeed.

The table picture for example - who was sitting on Harry's right? The answer isn't "no-one" unless you can show another picture demonstrating that. It's "we don't know as the picture was cropped so nothing could be seen beyond him" and for all we know, the join in the tables was in the middle of a long top table.

We saw this in full force in KateGate, and even though not as horrible/extensive it's just as deplorable when aimed at someone else

IsoldeWagner · 08/09/2024 09:04

I agree, you can't judge Harry's personal happiness on one photo. I remember a ludicrous thread when a papped picture of Kate came out a few months ago. It was an image of her in a car. Someone claimed that, going by her expression, divorce was imminent! Nonsense.
I wouldn't judge Harry in that way, but more on what he says and does - which isn't great.

BalloonSlayer · 08/09/2024 09:06

Didn't Harry he say he buzzed his Dad in his car while he was training to fly?

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 09:07

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 09:00

You do understand you’re avoiding the question. Again I am not talking about training. No one is disputing he trained. I am saying he never ever piloted post training, he failed, then resat, they passed him, closed the training and he was never ever a pilot. Jeez when the aviation award came out one of the top brass publicly stated harry was never a pilot so shouldn’t accept. It is a fact.

Link? I missed that and would be interested in seeing it.

(Especially as it doesn't match with normal helicopter training, if you don't pass there's no way they'd let to proceed to the Apache)

notimagain · 08/09/2024 09:07

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 09:00

You do understand you’re avoiding the question. Again I am not talking about training. No one is disputing he trained. I am saying he never ever piloted post training, he failed, then resat, they passed him, closed the training and he was never ever a pilot. Jeez when the aviation award came out one of the top brass publicly stated harry was never a pilot so shouldn’t accept. It is a fact.

Continually stating “it’s a fact” doesn’t make it so but I’m obviously not going to change your opinion,

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 09:08

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 09:07

Link? I missed that and would be interested in seeing it.

(Especially as it doesn't match with normal helicopter training, if you don't pass there's no way they'd let to proceed to the Apache)

Please use google as the default, only ask for links if you fail to find. As this was widely reported at the time, it’s impossible not to find via google. Here is a free link ie not behind a paywall.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-living-legend-aviation-award-military-backlash-1860191

Prince Harry Helicopter Pilot

Prince Harry's 'living legend' award sparks military backlash

"Harry was a gunner. He was number two in the aircraft," a skeptical retired army colonel said of the Duke of Sussex's induction as an aviation "legend."

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-living-legend-aviation-award-military-backlash-1860191

Serenster · 08/09/2024 09:09

The table picture for example - who was sitting on Harry's right? The answer isn't "no-one" unless you can show another picture demonstrating that. It's "we don't know as the picture was cropped so nothing could be seen beyond him" and for all we know, the join in the tables was in the middle of a long top table.

Google is your friend here. The reverse angle shows no-one is sitting to Harry’s right, as there is a window next to him. There is presumably a person sitting at right angle to him however. He is very much relegated to the least important seat at the head of the table.

Meghans trademark not allowed
WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 09:10

BalloonSlayer · 08/09/2024 09:06

Didn't Harry he say he buzzed his Dad in his car while he was training to fly?

No, he was on exercise and acting as a FOO (ground based target spotter) and he was musing if he could call in the aircraft to attack the car/s with Charles/entourage.

Calling in to attack a target convoy is a proper military task. Actually attacking people on the British roads as part of a training exercise - no chance

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 08/09/2024 09:11

notimagain · 08/09/2024 09:07

Continually stating “it’s a fact” doesn’t make it so but I’m obviously not going to change your opinion,

It is a fact. He was a gunner.

flapjackfairy · 08/09/2024 09:13

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/09/2024 09:01

That the media can pick and choose pictures that suit their narrative at the time, magnified by SEO reporting, means that it can be very misleading indeed.

The table picture for example - who was sitting on Harry's right? The answer isn't "no-one" unless you can show another picture demonstrating that. It's "we don't know as the picture was cropped so nothing could be seen beyond him" and for all we know, the join in the tables was in the middle of a long top table.

We saw this in full force in KateGate, and even though not as horrible/extensive it's just as deplorable when aimed at someone else

I never said there wasn't anyone on the other side if him but he does look out of sorts often when out and about with Meghan and not just in still photos. You would be hard pressed to find as many photos and video of other public people looking as annoyed. and pissed off during a public appearance when they should be on their best behaviour as it were.

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