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Uricon2 · 02/09/2024 16:44

I hadn't read the Tom Bower book (don't know how it passed me by) but have just ordered a copy. I remember thinking how incredibly stressful the wedding et al must have been for Doria (as it would for any of us plonked in that situation) but remember a moment with her and Charles that seemed lovely, as they were leaving church.

It sounds like the RF wanted to get to know her and a shame that was not possible.

LaMarschallin · 02/09/2024 16:44

Amusing article from today's Times2.
Hope the photos are legible.

Duke of Sussex  : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"
Duke of Sussex  : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"
Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/09/2024 16:55

I suspect that Megahn deliberately presented herself as a vulnerable but brave Orphan Annie, alone in the world but bravely making her own way (cue: trembling lip; left eye, one tear - GO!) to tug on Harry's heartstrings in the early days of their relationship.

Which is why Harry was never allowed to meet Thomas Markle or Uncle Mike and why Thomas couldn't be allowed to attend the wedding. He wouldn't have followed the script

This is precisely my own view, @Abouttimeforanamechange, but again if Harry had any judgement he might just have wondered why he was kept well away, and if there might be another side to "my dad's being awful to me" - especially after Meghan's previous gushing about Thomas

Undoubtably her dad made mistakes too, but to many of us the calculation was obvious, as was the fact that the chances of him appearing at the wedding were always nil

Sorry dad, but you don't fit this latest version of my self-invention, so you're just another who'll have to be cast aside ...

SadOrWickedFairy · 02/09/2024 17:01

Which is why Harry was never allowed to meet Thomas Markle or Uncle Mike and why Thomas couldn't be allowed to attend the wedding. He wouldn't have followed the script.

Thomas Markle didn't fit the required look for the Wedding let alone anything else. No way do Meghan want him there amongst all those A list Hollywood celebrities.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 02/09/2024 17:01

@CoffeeCantata Doria wasn't completely isolated in the chapel at the wedding. She was sat next to Benita Litt (pictured with Doria in attached article), who is an "old friend" of Meghan, and whose daughters are apparently Meghan's goddaughters and were 2 of her bridesmaids. I don't know if they are still friends, if they are it's completely under the radar. Her business profile makes her look like exactly the sort of person who could have helped H&M with their various business ventures. She doesn't get a mention in the Tom Bower book, which is interesting as it's quite detailed on Meghan's background and associates.

I too have read that Meghan was keeping her mother from the RF though. I read in one of the books that William and Catherine kept asking to meet her and inviting her to tea, but were refused also.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/a20718104/who-is-benita-litt/

Meghan Markle's BFF Benita Litt Is Rumored to Be One of Baby Archie's Godparents

FWIW, Meghan is the godmother to BOTH of Benita's little girls.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/a20718104/who-is-benita-litt

OrSoItSeemsThatWay · 02/09/2024 17:14

Interesting. I've never heard of Benita Litt and she hasn't been mentioned repeatedly as one of Meghan's old pals in the way Jessica Mulroney, Lindsey Roth and others have been. Below the radar!

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 02/09/2024 17:28

I know, weird that this friendship has completely disappeared from public discourse. Her business site lists The Tig as a client brand. She says:

I AM A BRAND CURATOR.
I SHAPE IDEAS AND BRING THEM TO LIFE.
I ENSURE YOUR IDEAS ARE LEGALLY PROTECTABLE.
I CHOOSE CLIENTS AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR IDEA AS I AM ABOUT BUILDING BRANDS.
LET ME HELP YOU.

(Sorry for caps, it's a copy/paste)

She's a former IP/Entertainment lawyer. You'd have thought she'd be an ideal person to help Meghan launch ARO.

Buffs · 02/09/2024 17:47

NO, NO ,NO! By all means privately make up with his family but the public does not need to see him again, he has done quite enough damage to the monarchy.

FlappingMadly · 02/09/2024 17:55

May, potentially, partially. No news here.

RavenhairedRachel · 02/09/2024 17:56

Why is it all going belly up in America ?

Havinganamechange · 02/09/2024 17:59

There is never one side to a story is there, personally I like them both and I’m sick of the press propaganda and everyone who believes it.

noodiedoodie · 02/09/2024 18:14

Ummm - its the Sunday Mail - and quoting 'unnamed sources' - why would you believe this story????!!!!

Imanontoday · 02/09/2024 18:16

noodiedoodie · 02/09/2024 18:14

Ummm - its the Sunday Mail - and quoting 'unnamed sources' - why would you believe this story????!!!!

Wow, if you don’t believe stuff untess the sources are named you must have missed so many key events in history.

masterblaster · 02/09/2024 18:26

What is his crime?

ohhhh, I remember, marrying a black woman.

happy to have him back. He’s always been my favourite royal.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/09/2024 18:28

Interesting suggestion in that Times article - that Harry hasn't included any "updates" in the paperback edition of Spare because he's handed the more recent stuff to Meghan for her to include in her own book

Like so much else in the media it may well be nonsense, but it would also enable him to claim "Not me guv" so I wonder ...

Baital · 02/09/2024 18:31

masterblaster · 02/09/2024 18:26

What is his crime?

ohhhh, I remember, marrying a black woman.

happy to have him back. He’s always been my favourite royal.

Maybe lying is a problem? I.e. 'his truth' being very different from reality?

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 02/09/2024 18:33

masterblaster · 02/09/2024 18:26

What is his crime?

ohhhh, I remember, marrying a black woman.

happy to have him back. He’s always been my favourite royal.

No, his crimes were racially slandering minorities, hitting and attacking anyone from photographers to his own protection officers, and taking illegal drugs. All went unpunished, lucky, privileged little boy that he is. He left the royal family of his own accord and trashed his relatives in print and on film for money, trashed the UK, the UK media and the institution of the monarchy, and said he hated being a working royal. That's why people don't want him back. HTH.

inthetrenches1 · 02/09/2024 18:39

You are quoting the Daily Heil, you may as well be reading Dr Seuss for factual basis

Loyallyreserved · 02/09/2024 18:42

His dad mistreated him, his brother attacked him, his stepmum is evil, his sister-in-law is racist. All this said by Harry yet no word of apology. He thinks he can just ask and he gets.
it’s a NO from me. Have the quiet life out of the spot light you so eagerly wanted.

AutumnCrow · 02/09/2024 18:44

And a clarion call went out to the faithful amidst the eddies of the space-time continuum

Twistybranch · 02/09/2024 18:45

Here we go, the super fans out in force with the usual nonsensical arguments looking for a bit of attention

Twistybranch · 02/09/2024 18:49

People magazine, who we know that H&M use, hasn’t had their sources issue a denial. So Harry is not denying that he’s looking to try and make it back into the royal fold.

The public outing came as the Mail on Sundayreported that Harry, who stepped back from royal duties with his wife Meghan Markle in 2020, is exploring ways to reintegrate into the royal fold. However, sources who previously worked with him could not confirm the story to PEOPLE.

Inside story of Harry's attempt to return to royal fold

Much work is needed for Harry to mend bridges and reclaim friendships. But The Mail on Sunday has learned that a plan for a way forward has already been prepared.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13799927/Inside-story-Harrys-attempt-return-royal-fold-Friends-reveal-surprising-messages-overtures-secret-rehabilitation-blueprint-suggests-not-everythings-sunny-Montecito.html

Thistlewoman · 02/09/2024 18:55

Good grief, how on EARTH does he think his family-all the people he has said such awful things about-could ever just brush that under the carpet and welcome him back as if everything is ok?? Hazza is a spoilt brat. He's run out of money/status and he's thrashing about trying to recoup his losses. Frankly I should imagine his rellies would be content never to see him again. Can't say I blame them.

Dillydollydingdong · 02/09/2024 19:03

Oh dear! They might have to get JOBS like everybody else!

thecrossIambearing · 02/09/2024 19:06

@masterblaster what a weak argument.

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