Harry in UK for funeral

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DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

My parents probably did too (although my granny, my mother's then sole surviving parent doesn't seem to have ever objected) because they had a huge age gap relationship. It worked totally for them - they were devoted to each other - but my mother always told us daughters that she wouldn't be happy for any of her daughters to do the same.

* thanks for your post. I understand what you're saying. I don't think anything has had an impact on their married life, I think they've grown stronger.*

No, that’s not what saying. I’m
saying that William was warning them that life in the RF would have an impact on them. Which it did. They couldn’t cope with what it actually entailed and the expectations of them. Their married life is now not as part of Harry’s or Meghan’s extended family. Harry in particular is isolated from everyone and everything he was familiar with because they couldn’t cope with the expectations of Royal life 🤷‍♀️

@BustingBaoBun Sorry I don't really understand. I imagine William might have thought that Meghan as Harry's wife would not be right for the Monarchy, that's all I am saying. I am not sure how to answer any more.

What don't you understand? I'm quoting your words back to you and asking you to clarify what you meant by them. It seems to be all in your imagination, based on no facts whatsoever, that you are projecting onto William. Because, in Harry's uncorroborated version, William advised Harry to take things slowly - not to ditch Meghan for someone else, but to take things slowly for both heir sakes. Both Harry and Meghan are on record stating how welcoming everyone (William included) had been and how excited William and Catherine had been to meet her as they were apparently Suits fans. That doesn't sound like someone looking o break up his brother's relationship.

That may be your impression that thy were “off limits” but it’s not the case. There are loads of paparazzi photos from when William and Kate lived in Anglesey - walking on the beach, walking with Kate’s family when they came to visit, Kate was regularly snapped buying groceries in the local supermarkets. Stories were told about them buying takeaway pizzas from local service stations. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen similar photos of Meghan in the UK? Other than the famous one of her in wellies and a carrying a “Make poverty history” bag outside the Mail’s offices on Kensington High Street of course.

Nope. Meghan was all over social media with her "H&M" necklace and her his and hers matching bracelets and dropping heavy hints about their romance. Marching up and down outside the Mail offices for attention in her wellies. She wanted the relationship to be public.

Catherine had zero protection from the tabloids, was pursued relentlessly by paps calling her misogynist names to get a reaction, had to beg them to leave her sister alone, had her phone hacked hundreds of times (many, many more times than Harry ever did, as shown in William's phone hacking case), had topless pictures taken of her from a mile away and was called all manner of class and misogyny based names in the papers, as was her sister and mother.

Omg the photo of her in wellies in Kensington high street 🤣. It's funny how she tried so hard to look 'English' in those early days.

When they rented a private house to get away - they were stalked. The rooms were photographed with a telephoto lens

Which house was this please?

A tiny sample of photos taken of Kate (and one with William) while they were living together as a young couple in North wales. There were so many of them. Meghan has such privacy compared to Kate.

I agree with this. I was shocked that the vicar was answering press questions. Not fair on the family. This was a service about the deceased not William or Harry. He should have said it was not for him to comment

Considering they were together much longer it's not surprising there are more pictures.

I'm voting for Harris. I think she is sane and qualified. Most reasonable people in the US are voting for her because she is sane and competent. Her color and ethnicity is not important to me.

Meghan has shown poor business judgement and poor political judgement. Her husband thinks the First Amendment is bonkers. I have my doubts about his ability not to antagonize the White House Press corps. They are not political assets to my country.

Is that the best you can come up with?

I'm not trying ro come up with anything it's just common sense thay if you have been together for 8yr before getting married then there is more time and therefore more opportunities that pictures will be taken compared to only being together for a year or two before getting married.

So to say one person's privacy was evaded more than others when the comparison isn't over the same number of years isn't true.

one person's privacy was evaded more than others' isn't true
Who has done all the invasion of privacy in books, magazines, chat shows and Netflix?.
I find this all very hypocritical.

But Meghan was never harassed by the press to the extent Kate, Diana, Fergie were.

So that makes it okay then? Who cares by how much maybe thr RF needs to make sure it doesn't happen at all or speak up more to stop it the first time it happens.

The vile treatment Kate received before her cancer diagnosis has to be the worst I’ve ever seen. Shockingly, it was reiterated on here.

So to say one person's privacy was evaded more than others when the comparison isn't over the same number of years isn't true.

The photos I posted (and there are so many more) all come from when William and Kate were living together in Angelsey. They lived there between 2010 and 2013. Directly comparable to Meghan who lived in London from 2017 to the start of 2020.

So the comparison isn’t inaccurate. Kate’s privacy was demonstrably invaded so much more than Meghan’s ever was. I could fill up post after post of her papped in supermarket carparks in Wales, but for variation have her walking on the beach in North Wales with her sister, William and Kate walking on the beach in North Wales and visiting a pub in North Wales. The community in Wales was much smaller than London too, so the intrusion must have been intense.

(you do realise if we widened the scope to include all the times Kate was papped while attempting to go about her private life over the years, there would be literally thousands of photos, including the times when she was upskirted, shot on holiday topless from half a mile away, and harassed by a crowd of photographers. Your clamours of “Meghan had it worse” are ludicrous on this issue).

It doesn't make any of it OK, but so many posters argue that Meghan has been treated worse than anyone else when that is simply untrue.

The issue wasn’t that it was okay. It’s not. The issue was that a poster claimed the the Palace made sure that Kate and William were “off limits” when living together immediately before and after their marriage, but Meghan wasn’t protected like this. It’s utter nonsense to claim this.

I believe the verger has said there were 300 people at yesterdays service, that the actual funeral had been held days before and it had been a small private affair.

He died in July. I believe that the service on Wednesday 28th August 2024 was a memorial service, not the funeral.
From the point of view of the the widow and children of Robert Fellowes it seems to me like good sense to have a very quiet funeral and then a bit larger memorial service. The two princes were close relations. There would always have been a chance that their appearance would be discovered beforehand, with accompanying press hoodle-doodle. There's been a bit after the memorial service. It wouldn't have been nice to have it for the funeral itself.

If you were the vicar or churchwarden of Snettisham church and you didn't want to be rude to anyone, what would you say to a 'press' person who asked you if the princes had spoken to one another, given that you obviously couldn't possibly have had your eyes on both of them all the time? What would you have said that wouldn't have got criticism from any direction?

Haven't RTFT, but it's pointless to compare the beginning of the couples' relationships because they met at such different stages. William and Kate met young, when William wasn't a working royal and the press had agreed to leave him alone at uni. They had time to take their relationship slowly - DH and I met at the same age and got married after ten years and had DC after 15.

Harry and Meghan met at an older age, when relationships do tend to move much more quickly. He was already a working royal (so less press protection) and she had a successful career of her own (that it was immediately assumed she would give up if they married) that came with a media profile.

Regardless of how they all handled the intrusion, it's pointless to compare them as they were in such different positions.

I would have said ‘it’s a private matter, no comment’. I was shocked he had spoken out. It’s not appropriate and I’m sure the family are hopping mad.