Harry in UK for funeral

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DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

Yes I read that too.

I agree. Some people seem to have very short memories. The speculation was ongoing and ludicrous.

That is what someone with media training would do.

It is possible that he was caught unexpectedly, and said something he thought was bland, which has been twisted into something 'meaningful ' for click bait

He should have replied no comment and left it at that. In his position he should have been prepared for the questions and he made a mistake in his response. Which is human and we all make mistakes so not the end of the world. But he has caused drama with his response which I'm sure he regrets.

I don't think any press invasion of privacy compares with the Australian DJs phoning the hospital when Catherine was suffering from HG, pretending to be the Queen and broadcasting confidential medical information on the radio. That was bad enough but it prompted the nurse who had put the call through to take her own life.

I wonder if this gets forgotten about because it was not the British Media, supposedly the worst in the world.

I also suspect this may have been behind Meghan and Harry's decision to release false/misleading information about when Meghan had gone into hospital - something they are reviled for doing, but I really don't blame them.

And wasn't someone recently prosecuted for trying to get into Catherine's medical records?

@BustingBaoBun: "I think they've grown stronger."

You have as much evidence for that assertion as the Blind I read the other day that reported Megan having had appointments with two divorce lawyers recently.

You will see I didn't say 'they've grown stronger' but 'I think they've grown stronger'

I am not 'asserting', I am expressing an opinion, same as everyone else.

I didn't realise Catherine and William were papped so many times in Anglesey.

The speculation around Catherine's diagnosis were just awful. I couldn't believe some of the stuff on here and social media under the guise of PR complaints and faux concern.

'And wasn't someone recently prosecuted for trying to get into Catherine's medical records?'

I think this is probably what prompted her video about her diagnosis - she had to do it otherwise her medical records would have been made public. There are some absolute scum out there.

It's a very strange life isn't it. The invasion into Kate's medical records and the convictions for credible threats against Harry (and Meghan?) in particular. It's no wonder they're all paranoid and have poor relationships. None of us can really appreciate the stresses.

Where did I say Meghan had it worse? I didn't say that at all. I simply said based on your orig comment that of course she would be papped more since she and william had been together for longer.

I completely agree with this, a lot of their photos are set up by them from what I can tell anyway
Of course when they were a new coupe there was interest but that was nothing even remotely close to Diana fergie or Kate, more like Sophie, Eugenie and her sister

Ok,you did indeed say: Considering they were together much longer it's not surprising there are more pictures.

Well yes, but in saying that you seemed to be implying that there must then be relatively more or worse pictures of Meghan, following on from the conversation previously about the press intrusions that both had suffered. Otherwise, why did you comment? Words have meaning and interpretation according to context as well as their literal meaning. But you know that 😊

Focus on the taxpayer funded Royals.

Harold remains a drain on UK tax payers all the time we're subbing his court costs, his now proved to be unecessary police cavalcades on lightening visits and bids to bring his circus to town and sub that too with incidental costs.

He's fair game for comment just like the rest of them.

I think they rushed in and rushed out. I am inclined to believe the suggestion that Harry wanted out before his marriage and saw Meghan as a route for that. For many reasons, including being scarred by the ending of previous relationships, but also, I suspect by his personality, he didn't take the time or care to set out the whole truth.

Meghan had stars in her eyes, and chose not to look too closely in order to maintain her glittering princess fantasies. I think it's partly why her mental health took such a battering once the sorry truth dawned. So it's no wonder really that they both wanted out and fast.

Leaving rapidly with no real plan as to how to achieve and afford the lifestyle they wanted, especially once QE2 said they couldn't be half in and half out was unwise though. They have since exacerbated their rocky start by blowing up important relationships - including those that were commercially essential- by trashing both of their families and gaining a reputation for being grifters.

A planned, more cautious exit, as recommended by QE2 could have worked out better.

The vile treatment Kate received before her cancer diagnosis has to be the worst I’ve ever seen. Shockingly, it was reiterated on here.

It was disgraceful. MNHQ should never have allowed all those threads to run.

Why would they have known he was coming?
He could quite easily "just pitch up unannounced."
I think the fact that the press didn't know just shows that the Palace didn't know either as he's always said that they go hand in hand with each other.

Why would they have known he was coming?
He could quite easily "just pitch up unannounced."

That would completely prejudice his case that he needs security to visit the UK though, which I presume he has been made aware of by his lawyers.

He more than likely did have security though?!
The Spencers are his family too, could have been arranged via them, or he could have arranged it himself?!
He'll hardly have come without security.
Just doesn't have to run everything through the Palace anymore

Just because Harry says something doesn't mean it is true. He didn't provide any evidence of the palace leaking in his book or interviews.

He can travel incognito, as long as he doesn't tell People magazine what he is doing in advance.

Surely that case is dead after Nigeria and Colombia?

Why on earth would the Spencer family have security? Also, way to be a great guest at the memorial service : “I’m going to fly in for the memorial service - can you make sure you have security in place for me? Oh yah, sorry for your loss and all…”

Also, his case is that only Met Police security with access to Security Servces Intelligence is adequate for his needs.

(So him turning up without having first liaised with the Met Police and having sorted his own private security undermines his case…)

Why on earth would the Spencer family have security?

I'd be surprised if they did, Serenster, but William certainly will, and since he was at the same place I'd have thought Harry could piggyback on his brother's, if only in his own mind?

As for queries around "whether the palce knew", I could easily be wrong but would expect them to have good enough sources to learn exactly what Harry's planning if they so choose. After all they managed it to an extent with the Duke of Windsor when communications were less easy, so why not Harry now?

If you want to read my comment and think oh well she is implying this or thst your choice but I wasn't and if I wanted to day thst I would of said it.

Fact is I didn't day it and if you want to pretend I did or think that's what I meant that's on you but it doesn't make it a fact that I said it and sine serenster and others like you are all about facts....well....