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Harry in UK for funeral

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Viviennemary · 30/08/2024 10:18

DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

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Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 19:38

DelectableMe · 30/08/2024 19:31

Oh, don't pull at that thread, @Runnerinthenight 🙄

You're right, not doing it again!

Not2identifying · 30/08/2024 19:39

The directly quoted comments are quite mild (he says his eyesight wasn't good enough to see them during the service itself but that he shook hands with them both as they left (and Harry wasn't that far behind William, implying that they probably weren't sat next to each other but also weren't that far apart) and says he didn't spot them talking to each other at the event afterwards but that both had lots of people around them the whole time.

Not as provocative as the 'warring brothers confirmed to have not talked' type headlines but still very inappropriate.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2024 19:44

I wanted to remind that there are options other than blabbermouth vicars or deliberate leaks

And you're quite right, @EdithWeston; I'm just surprised that the Mail have apparently put a name to their quote if it wasn't him, when the more usual route would be to credit "a member of staff" or whoever

Overall though I agree it wasn't anyone's place to draw attention from what the occasion was supposed to be about. You don't need to be "media savvy" for that but just to have a little common sense

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 30/08/2024 19:53

It's possible that the Mail or whoever got a quote from a naive member of staff, and the vicar has stepped in to protect them by going on record.

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:01

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 19:02

There is no such thing as the British Media? Did I coin the phrase? The British Media calls themselves the British Media (ie, the large household name ones). Please have beef with them about it not me and in my eyes, yes they are pretty much the same with some being the worse than others.

You sound American.

Tigger1895 · 30/08/2024 20:02

cheezncrackers · 30/08/2024 10:58

Nice to see Harry behaving as the private citizen he is and not advertising his movements to all and sundry. The article I read in The Times said they kept their distance and didn't engage with one another at all.

This isn't about William bearing grudges FFS! Harry has made himself a multi-millionaire by selling his family's secrets - and all while blaming them for it! He divulged personal, medical information about William, he recounted private conversations and described a fight they had, which made William look terrible, he said that William and Catherine's relationship wasn't genuine, whereas his relationship with Meghan is, he stood by when Meghan called Catherine a racist and named her to Omid Scobie, who then put it in a fucking book and lied about having done so. If I was William I would never speak to my brother again. I don't blame him and the rest of the royal family for going full 'grey rock' with Harry one bit. Anything they say or do, Harry sells to the highest bidder.

Say I believe everything I read in the tabloids, without saying I believe everything I read in the tabloids.

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:03

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 18:43

The idea that Harry or Meghan informs the BM of their movements is weird. I do not know how clearer the evidence can be that this cannot be the case. Were they leaking negative stories about themselves when they were part of the Royal Family? Would Harry be suing the BM and taking them to task and still leaking stories to them? Seriously? Would the BM getting things so wrong with their ridiculous speculation if they had a relationship with Harry or his operatives if they were being provided info?

Harry and Meghan, especially the former, has made it clear verbally and in print that they want nothing to do with the BM and they have moved on.

The BM knows nothing about them and nothing about their kids.

Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace knew nothing because it was the Spencer side who controlled things. Charles Spencer is very protective of Harry and Meghan. That's why the RF knew nothing, including William. That is why there were no leaks.

Well done to Harry and one day the BM will stop embarrassing themselves with the hundreds of made up stories almost every day speculating about what Harry and Meghan might be thinking or doing. They do not live here. They left!

Focus on the taxpayer funded Royals.

I predict that more countries, including Commonwealth and non-Commonwealth countries will continue to troll the BM and the Royal Family by inviting the Sussexes to their countries.

Leave these two people alone. Harry has a family. He is not leaving his wife and he certainly won't abandon his kids to come back to the UK to wave and cut ribbons and help his brother take care of his kids. So many of his critics say he should return to help his brother and sister-in-law. Why should he prioritise his brother's kids over his own? Even more creepy are those who suggest he should abandon his wife and kids to support his sister-in-law.

Meghan will not come back to the UK for many, many years to come. She is friends with Serena Williams. Remember Indian Wells? I have a suspicion (just a suspicion) that Meghan is taking a leaf out of Serena's book. No amount of denial of racism will ever change the records of how the BM and some on social media were absolutely racist towards Meghan. Worse, even the police confirmed there were death threats plus police themselves exchanged racists messages about Meghan and her kids.

The world knows and no amount of denial will ever change that. The UK has been judge even though it isn't the UK but the BM. The UK is a wonderful, tolerant country. The BM has ruined the international image. Totally disgraced us.

H & M appointed a UK-based PR guy earlier this year to liaise with the BM.

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:10

Wantarest · 30/08/2024 18:56

British Media. Yes, they did and they did and they did. Even the BM confirmed that they did. You hate them. I get it so you will never be objective and accept the clear evidence that exist. I also know that this thread and the Royal Family forum is all about Harry and Meghan hate so I do not expect to hear anything remotely sensible and balanced. So don't bother. I think I've seen so much nonsense in the online news feeds, including foolishness about Meghan and the entire Royal Family lying about her being pregnant.

What I have absolute confidence in, is that people on this thread do not represent us, the wider UK population. Just like the far-right protestors foolishly thought they represented all white Britons. No, the silent majority do not buy into hate. We do not! We are a proud and decent country. We reject hate and weirdness.

But, apparently, we really don't like H& M either. Q2 stats show only A is less popular.

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 20:10

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:01

You sound American.

Not necessarily. But I suspect not British or British resident, because of the persistent use of an acronym that isn't used here in that context

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:12

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Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 30/08/2024 20:16

Tigger1895 · 30/08/2024 20:02

Say I believe everything I read in the tabloids, without saying I believe everything I read in the tabloids.

All of that information originated in Spare, from Prince Harry (apart from the racism allegation, which was in Dutch Endgame and could have had only one source - the Susssexes). No British paper would have been able to get any of that information past their lawyers, had they somehow got wind of that information and considered publishing it. Harry violated his own privacy, the tabloids just repeated him, much to the delight of his publishers and his accountant.

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 30/08/2024 20:19

Rhaidimiddim · 30/08/2024 20:03

H & M appointed a UK-based PR guy earlier this year to liaise with the BM.

The Sussexes also had a WhatsApp group with the British tabloids during their Invictus jaunt to Germany. They absolutely were working with the British media.

myrtleWilson · 30/08/2024 20:21

Harry and Meghan, especially the former, has made it clear verbally and in print that they want nothing to do with the BM and they have moved on.

Just quoting this from earlier as I think it was reported that "BM" tabloid reporters were actually added to the Invictus Whatsapp group, so perhaps relations are thawing between H&M and BM

Gorgonemilezola · 30/08/2024 20:24

'The young will drive how history looks at this. It will be through their lens and from what I can see, they adore Harry the world around.'

Have you read any of the recent commentary, especially following their pseudo royal tour of Columbia? Well, obviously not if you think he's adored around the world.

The pair of them are being used as useful idiots. I don't see 'the young' commenting on them, and tbh 'the young' are unlikely to be interested in a pair of middle aged dopes like Harry and Meghan.

SilkFloss · 30/08/2024 20:30

British Media (BM) is not a term I've come across in my 60 years as a UK citizen until Harry started banging on about it in his interviews (when he was trying to make out that the racism allegation in the Oprah interview came from them, not Meghan).
Mildly curious to know where @Wantarest coined the term.

Sweetteaplease · 30/08/2024 20:36

Spectre8 · 30/08/2024 11:38

And equally perhaps Harry doesn't want to talk to him either.

he said that William and Catherine's relationship wasn't genuine, whereas his relationship with Meghan is
William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan

he stood by when Meghan called Catherine a racist
William also stood by when the press made racist remarks about Meghan and said zip all

I think there have been terrible things on both sides it's not black and white.

I agree. It's interesting how people choose to only look at one side

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:40

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How rude.

Why can't posters have a different opinion?
I thought this was a discussion forum

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 20:43

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:40

How rude.

Why can't posters have a different opinion?
I thought this was a discussion forum

It's OK to have a different opinion.

It's not OK to repeat things that can be demonstrably proved a false (not just seen differently, but actually false) and expect that you will not be corrected.

Runnerinthenight · 30/08/2024 20:44

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:40

How rude.

Why can't posters have a different opinion?
I thought this was a discussion forum

If they back them up - which they invariably don't/can't!

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:45

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Gorgonemilezola · 30/08/2024 20:46

Sweetteaplease · 30/08/2024 20:36

I agree. It's interesting how people choose to only look at one side

But most of what's posted here is incorrect.

'William was reported to have said Harry was rushing his marriage to him and questioned his choice in Meghan'
I Spare, Harry said William had advised him not to rush things. He didn't say anything about his choice being questioned. As it turns out, William was very perceptive.

'William also stood by when the press made racist remarks about Meghan and said zip all'
As has now been pointed out eleventy billion and one times, William made an unprecedented statement asking the press to stop. Harry hasn't uttered a word about the way Harry and Meghan’s acknowledged supporters have abused and vilified Catherine.

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:49

I met and married my DH after a few months, at a similar age... if my brother had told me to hang on, I was being hasty, I would have told him to eff off.

(I'm decades into a marriage. It's rude and insulting to question that)

EdithWeston · 30/08/2024 20:49

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I didn't use that term!

My apologies that it was not clear that I was responding to the part of your post about differences of opinion.

And how opinion is OK, but repetition of demonstrable untruths is not. Nor is stating opinion as if it were fact (unless you can provide sourcing information)

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:51

Thank you @EdithWeston

Pineapplesandthegovernmentandpunkrock · 30/08/2024 20:52

BustingBaoBun · 30/08/2024 20:49

I met and married my DH after a few months, at a similar age... if my brother had told me to hang on, I was being hasty, I would have told him to eff off.

(I'm decades into a marriage. It's rude and insulting to question that)

And would you write about it in a book, and take your revenge on your brother's private concerns by publicly trashing his marriage?

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