Harry in UK for funeral

[Viviennemary]

DM is reporting Harry came to the UK for the funeral of his uncle Robert Fellowes. The husband of Diana's sister Lady Jane. Apparently they kept their distance from each other and didn't speak. Looks like William has the Windsor habit of bearing grudges. Don't blame him in this case.

If Harry had been dating a white middle class girl who went to private Catholic school and a prestigious college, do you think that's the line of reporting they would have taken?

The few racist comments as mentioned earlier were widely criticised proving the UK isn't racist.

What actually happened was Harry behaved badly demanding alsorts and was told no repeatedly. They didn't like it, left and blamed racism. It really did a disservice to those who have experienced racism.

I have often wondered what the newspapers would have said if Harry had been dating a pretty, white, divorced, American actress who'd been in a TV series and was a little bit older than he was.

Not nearly half so much I'm guessing.

Well obviously not the Compton line, no. However, if he had married a white working class woman, they may well have talked about her being straight off the council estate. Or, in Catherine's case (she being the middle class, privately educated young woman of your scenario), being the social climbing daughter of an air stewardess. Or, in Meghan's case, in the many, many other articles written about her childhood, they would have written about her prestigious private schools and time spent on TV sets with her Emmy award winning father - ie talking about her privilege. However, where exactly is the shame in any of it? If they were talking about me, they would have a number of boxes to tick. Council estate, immigrant, shitty state school. Am I supposed to be ashamed of that? If they decided I came from, I don't know, a big immigrant area where I didn't actually grow up, am I supposed to take umbrage with that as if it's something to be ashamed of? What does that say about me if I am ashamed? What does it say about you if you think it's something shameful?

BarbaraHoward

There were umpteen posts on here lamenting that Harry hadn't married "a nice English rose like Kate"

I'd be interested to know if you could point to one, although I know some threads were deleted so everything that was said isn't still available.
However, the only time I saw phrases like "nice English rose like Kate" being used were from people saying that those who criticised Meghan wanted Harry to marry a nice English etc.
It's another instance of stating things very definitely but without proof in an effort to make that statement true.
If there were "umpteen" such posts you surely must be able to give an example of one?

I don't understand how anyone can be racist against another person on the grounds of nationality. Race isn't the same thing as nationality.

Exactly, doors to manual and all that. The difference is everyone else who has endured the goading has just risen above it. Imagine if the Middletons had retaliated to all the sneers about their background.

It also did a disservice to the entire population of the UK.

Rising above it, yes, when you are about to become one of the most privileged people to have ever walked the Earth, why the hell would you care about a trivial matter of geography? But also owning it. Being confident in the place you have come from and what you have achieved in your life to overcome whatever background prejudiced people perceive pejoratively. The number of times I have heard arseholes talk about people off council estates, and their faces drop when I tell them that's me they are talking about. Fuck them. I don't need their validation, and I am pretty sure the star of a hit show about to turn princess wouldn't have needed any validation from some tabloid hack either.

How would that work in terms of security??

Presumably he brought his henchmen with him.

I stopped reading this post part-way through because it is such utter crap. And you talk about "revisionist history"!!!

I don't think it would be as straightforward as that. I think the Palace would have had to know that he was coming in order to assess the security situation and potentially arrange for him to have cover.

Now there's an attempt at deflection if ever there was one!! so predictable.

Christ it's not. Have you been in Camilla's house now too? And I haven't got a clue about the alleged incident you are referencing.

Gosh you really must have serious insider knowledge to know all that!!! Surely his brother and his father are the most significant adults in his family, for him?

I don't think it would have made much difference. I didn't know Meghan was biracial until I read it somewhere.

I agree and many who posted them all endlessly still on here.

I had never heard of Compton. Mind you I had never heard of Meghan Markle.

Same!

And still no explanation about why ‘Compton’ was racist.

If it’s so obviously dreadful, it shouldn’t take long to explain?

Do you know I don't have a list of posts saved to my phone? If you want to wrestle with MN's search function then work away but I certainly can't be bothered. Not least because most of the posts were reported and deleted.

In the Equality Act, race can mean your colour, or your nationality (including your citizenship). It can also mean your ethnic or national origins, which may not be the same as your current nationality.

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/equality/equality-act-2010/your-rights-under-equality-act-2010/race-discrimination

I can't believe anyone would think it isn't racist and unpleasant. The article was absolutely awful. Here are just the headlines. It gets worse when you dive into it. It talks of all the crimes, listing them out, the 'tatty' houses, the gangs, the 'crips', the crime ridden neighbourhood and bringing Meghan, her mother and her Aunt into it at every opportunity. If anyone doesn't think it was racist, there is nothing more to be said.

EXCLUSIVE: Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?

• Prince Harry's new girl, Suits star Meghan Markle, is from Crenshaw, LA
• Crenshaw has endured 47 crimes in the past week - including murder
• Gangs, including the Bloods, count the neighborhood as their territory
• Markle' social worker mom, Doria Ragland, lives in the run-down area
• And the actress's aunt, Ava Burrow, is in nearby gang-afflicted Inglewood
• Plagued by crime and riddled with street gangs, the troubled Los Angeles neighborhood that Doria Ragland, 60, calls home couldn’t be more different to London’s leafy Kensington.