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The royal family

GB News is losing the plot!

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LimeBiscuit · 23/08/2024 21:10

I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

Princess Kate and Prince William lose contest to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped back as working royals four years ago

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

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PoppysAunt · 27/08/2024 12:12

Imagine supporting your children by trashing others in your family. How low.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/08/2024 12:28

LimeBiscuit · 27/08/2024 11:38

Spare review, on trauma and healing.

“The wealthy have souls also and being wealthy offers no insurance policy to protect one from abuse, trauma, and suffering.” Her remedy for a cure from trauma and abuse was John 8:31-32: “The truth will set you free.”

https://www.socialworker.com/feature-articles/reviews-commentary/book-review-prince-harry-spare-trauma-abuse/

I would rather be a multi millionaire with mental health issues than poor with mental health issues, but no doubt you will find a way to say it’s so much worse for Harry than a 40 year old veteran living on benefits in a bed sit with PTSD, poor poor only third in line (at one point) to the throne Harry, it’s so much tougher for him.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/08/2024 12:33

LimeBiscuit · 27/08/2024 11:59

There were plenty of positives. However, the whole world was reporting on the UK tabloids’ racism, covert and overt in real time.

Really? Please link, and while you are at it maybe give Oprah a call because she had to make the newspaper headlines up and claim they were from British tabloids when they were not, and she was rightly pulled up on it so you would really be helping her out of a tight spot.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/08/2024 12:34

LimeBiscuit · 27/08/2024 12:04

How anyone cannot see the distortion in family dynamics because of one inheritor of the crown is beyond me. Pulling rank as an heir would be a real problem for a sibling too. It will be definitely something that the press will bother itself with when the Cambridge children are older. The way they have reported Prince Louis is laying the seeds for playing him off against his siblings - being seen as the rebellious, fun loving one.

Are you totally clueless on how a monarchy works?

JSMill · 27/08/2024 13:55

LimeBiscuit · 27/08/2024 12:04

How anyone cannot see the distortion in family dynamics because of one inheritor of the crown is beyond me. Pulling rank as an heir would be a real problem for a sibling too. It will be definitely something that the press will bother itself with when the Cambridge children are older. The way they have reported Prince Louis is laying the seeds for playing him off against his siblings - being seen as the rebellious, fun loving one.

H benefitted from the system too. As the son of the heir, he was treated differently to his cousins. As an example, I am sure Zara etc would have very much wanted to fly up to Balmoral when their dgm was dying but they had to stay home while their two cousins flew up because they outranked them.

Gorgonemilezola · 27/08/2024 14:01

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 11:39

They were given a clothing allowance for working clothes and Frogmore Cottage, which apparently is not good enough for Andrew.

Frogmore cottage is much larger than Nottingham Cottage where William and Kate lived when George was a baby. Harry and Meghan were in line for one of the biggest apartments at Kensington Palace. They would have probably ended up with a rather lovely country property too, but of course they didn't hang around long enough.

Harry had plenty of £££££ and, according to Meghan fans, she wasn't a pauper when they met, so there should have been plenty of cash for splashing about.

And a clothing allowance where you're spending £40-50k on a single item, well, how mean.......

Harry had a sizeable allowance from his father - remember him complaining it had stopped when the pair did their 'fleeng'.

They wanted their cake, to eat their cake and have a cake to take away with them to feed on for the rest of their lives.

LimeBiscuit · 27/08/2024 14:04

JSMill · 27/08/2024 13:55

H benefitted from the system too. As the son of the heir, he was treated differently to his cousins. As an example, I am sure Zara etc would have very much wanted to fly up to Balmoral when their dgm was dying but they had to stay home while their two cousins flew up because they outranked them.

I agree.

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Gorgonemilezola · 27/08/2024 14:05

'Writing one’s emotional journey is good therapy.'

Many therapists would agree that writing is good therapy. What I'm willing to bet is that most of them would not suggest publishing what's been written.

Him wanting to 'communicate with humanuty' - sounds like a load of California waffle.

EdithWeston · 27/08/2024 14:21

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 15:45

Has Catherine written a book and done multiple interviews about how terrible her life is and that Pippa had the bigger sausage at breakfast? Must have missed that.

Well, I think if Pippa did get more sausages, the complaint might have been justified.

Kate was the eldest, and so would have needed more sausages calories than her younger sister and idc brother.

William, as the elder child, would also have needed more.

Harry formed the grudge long before he was a parent and had any cause to think about the different intake needs between siblings with a 2 year age difference. Or perhaps the do feed their DC exactly the same amounts - meaning that either the elder is skinny as a rake or the younger the opposite. Or perhaps he's grown up, feeds his DC according to their size/caloric needs (ie different sized helpings, with more for the elder/larger) and has well-proportioned healthy DC.

It's the sort of pre-parenting ignorant comment that anyone might make, but for most of us it's done in obscurity, leading to family teasing at worst. He's done it to the world, and now he's a bit further along with parenting, I wonder if he's cringing?

Baital · 27/08/2024 14:40

DD used to throw a strop about having one egg for breakfast instead of 2, because my foster daughter (several years older) had 2.

I said she could have 2 eggs when she was 10. On her 10th birthday I cooked her 2 eggs. She couldn't finish them 😂

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 14:50

@Gorgonemilezola Yes Frogmore Cottage has five bedrooms. But still not large enough for Andrew apparently.

Gorgonemilezola · 27/08/2024 15:07

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 14:50

@Gorgonemilezola Yes Frogmore Cottage has five bedrooms. But still not large enough for Andrew apparently.

Can't find Andrew saying this? But anyway, that's beside the point. Frogmore Cottage is a large house which was completely renovated for Meghan and Harry (it actually had 10 bedrooms before renovation, maybe the bedrooms weren't big enough to suit Harry?) Harry's brother, at the same stage in his marriage, lived in a much smaller property without complaint.

Perhaps Harry and Meghan need to check their privilege. They didn't need 10 bedrooms so is it just down to straightforward jealousy?

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 15:12

Charles said he wanted to evict Andrew and move him into Frogmore Cottage. This was widely reported. He refuses to leave, preferring to keep his 30 room mansion and substantial grounds. It also has an indoor swimming pool, a private chapel, and eight separate additional properties for staff.
And all this for Andrew and Sarah. Two people who are not even working Royals.

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 15:15

@Gorgonemilezola Do you think Andrew should be made to give up his mansion and move into Frogmore?

Gorgonemilezola · 27/08/2024 15:19

Lots of 'claims' and 'is said to have'.

Still irrelevant to Harry and Meghan’s jealous response. They had a bigger property than William's brother and his wife at the beginning of their marriage. If they'd stayed around for more than 5 minutes they would have had the large KP apartment and very likely a large country mansion. But they threw a jealous strop instead.

Gorgonemilezola · 27/08/2024 15:22

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 15:15

@Gorgonemilezola Do you think Andrew should be made to give up his mansion and move into Frogmore?

He has a lease on the house he's currently living in but tbh I don't really care, and don't know what it has to do with Harry and Meghan?

Likewhatever · 27/08/2024 15:25

The issue with Royal Lodge is not its occupant but the cost of upkeep. It’s ruinously expensive. Charles wants to divest himself of the expense and from what I’ve heard hoped to palm it off onto William. I don’t believe the Waleses would be in a hurry to take it on, and Andrew has a lease and is no hurry to move, so everyone’s a bit stuck.

I think it’s a shame for Frogmore Cottage to be seen as a punishment for Andrew, it’s a lovely property which Harry said he and Meghan loved.

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 15:36

Frogmore is sitting empty with no rent being paid. A total waste of a lovely house.
The point of not renewing Harry's lease was to get Andrew to move into the cottage. This made sense. Andrew and Sarah are not working Royals. They have no children living with them. Charles is supporting him. It made sense for Andrew and Sarah to move into the smaller 5 bedroom cottage. More than large enough for a couple.

PoppysAunt · 27/08/2024 15:57

EdithWeston · 27/08/2024 14:21

Well, I think if Pippa did get more sausages, the complaint might have been justified.

Kate was the eldest, and so would have needed more sausages calories than her younger sister and idc brother.

William, as the elder child, would also have needed more.

Harry formed the grudge long before he was a parent and had any cause to think about the different intake needs between siblings with a 2 year age difference. Or perhaps the do feed their DC exactly the same amounts - meaning that either the elder is skinny as a rake or the younger the opposite. Or perhaps he's grown up, feeds his DC according to their size/caloric needs (ie different sized helpings, with more for the elder/larger) and has well-proportioned healthy DC.

It's the sort of pre-parenting ignorant comment that anyone might make, but for most of us it's done in obscurity, leading to family teasing at worst. He's done it to the world, and now he's a bit further along with parenting, I wonder if he's cringing?

I don't think he has the wit to "cringe".

Likewhatever · 27/08/2024 16:11

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 15:36

Frogmore is sitting empty with no rent being paid. A total waste of a lovely house.
The point of not renewing Harry's lease was to get Andrew to move into the cottage. This made sense. Andrew and Sarah are not working Royals. They have no children living with them. Charles is supporting him. It made sense for Andrew and Sarah to move into the smaller 5 bedroom cottage. More than large enough for a couple.

Nobody knows what the King’s reasons were for terminating Harry’s lease. Maybe he thought someone who repeatedly asked for money might not be a reliable payer.

PoppysAunt · 27/08/2024 16:24

Maybe he thought; he's living in the USA now and had mouthing us to all and sundry, maybe he's not coming back?.

pearlfritillary · 27/08/2024 16:38

PoppysAunt · 27/08/2024 12:12

Imagine supporting your children by trashing others in your family. How low.

I quite agree. Utterly despicable.

Sadly it seems that Harry is more concerned with issuing out the PB version of 'his truth' than filing accounts for Archewell

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PoppysAunt · 27/08/2024 16:41

pearlfritillary · 27/08/2024 16:38

I quite agree. Utterly despicable.

Sadly it seems that Harry is more concerned with issuing out the PB version of 'his truth' than filing accounts for Archewell

edit for spelling

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Yes, let's face it, more money - for him a no brainer.

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 16:52

@Likewhatever the reason given at the time for terminating the Frogmore lease was so Andrew could downsize. And that makes sense. Instead Frogmore is sitting empty all these years later with zero rent being paid. It is a total waste of a sizeable house.
Meanwhile Andrew and Sarah swan around in their mansion and grounds.

CathyorClaire · 27/08/2024 17:00

Likewhatever · 27/08/2024 16:11

Nobody knows what the King’s reasons were for terminating Harry’s lease. Maybe he thought someone who repeatedly asked for money might not be a reliable payer.

I think it's unlikely Harold ever paid a penny in rent.

The £2.4m 'repayment' later proved to have 'included' eighteen months rent and even later proved to have released the Henry's from any future rental obligations thus
depleting Crown Estate profits to the detriment of the public purse while saving Harold hundreds of thousands.

Nauseating sleight of hand.

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