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GB News is losing the plot!

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LimeBiscuit · 23/08/2024 21:10

I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

Princess Kate and Prince William lose contest to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped back as working royals four years ago

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

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Hughs · 26/08/2024 14:42

I don’t see it as that, at all. I see it as how deeply he was affected by both the moniker of spare and being treated as such within that world.

Who could feel anything but sympathy for this tragic millionaire who had to grow up being only third in line to the throne instead of second.

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 15:12

LimeBiscuit · 26/08/2024 11:58

Yes, the point was to show that the UK papers fired up thousands of people to do something about the hateful reporting. As an example someone felt motivated enough to do something about it.

It's nonsense. The criticisms of Meghan were either justified or just petty.
They cannot expect absolutely positive, flattering coverage which doesn't question their behaviour or their lies.
They seem to whinge about it though!

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 15:13

Serenster · 26/08/2024 12:32

I’m also always interested to see posters who have such strong views about journalists on the basis that they lie about things (and praise those who set up website dedicated to criticising them for this, as seen above).

Yet Meghan, proven liar who has had to apologise to the Court for doing so somehow is miraculously exempt from any such judgments. And attempts to criticise her is denigrated as bullying and shameful behaviour by those same posters…

This, 💯

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Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:40

Hughs · 26/08/2024 14:42

I don’t see it as that, at all. I see it as how deeply he was affected by both the moniker of spare and being treated as such within that world.

Who could feel anything but sympathy for this tragic millionaire who had to grow up being only third in line to the throne instead of second.

Presumably you do not feel sorry either for the multi millionaire Catherine?

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:42

And I do not subscribe to the view that you should never feel sorry for someone who is rich.

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 15:43

Nor me, @Nadeed . However, someone who is rich, greedy, lazy, dishonest and petty - like Harry - it's kinda hard

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 15:45

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:40

Presumably you do not feel sorry either for the multi millionaire Catherine?

Has Catherine written a book and done multiple interviews about how terrible her life is and that Pippa had the bigger sausage at breakfast? Must have missed that.

Hughs · 26/08/2024 15:47

Presumably you do not feel sorry either for the multi millionaire Catherine?

😂😂

I don't think she's ever complained about growing up only 3rd in line to the throne instead^ of 2nd, but if she does, I won't feel sorry for her for that, no.^

Hughs · 26/08/2024 15:48

Ooh funky formatting.. not sure what that is about.

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:49

You are missing the point. I was challenging the implied concept that we should never feel sorry for someone if they are rich.

"Who could feel anything but sympathy for this tragic millionaire who had to grow up being only third in line to the throne instead of second."

There was no need to mention that he was a millionaire. It is just the common cheap shot of trying to dismiss anyone's negative experiences if they are rich.

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 15:51

Yes, I remember Catherine sitting down with Lorraine Kelly and telling all. Grisly details
about how she had to collapse on the floor in tears because Camilla took her slice of cake during one afternoon tea....

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 15:51

Serenster · 26/08/2024 12:32

I’m also always interested to see posters who have such strong views about journalists on the basis that they lie about things (and praise those who set up website dedicated to criticising them for this, as seen above).

Yet Meghan, proven liar who has had to apologise to the Court for doing so somehow is miraculously exempt from any such judgments. And attempts to criticise her is denigrated as bullying and shameful behaviour by those same posters…

Funny isn’t it how Meghan has reached sainthood on here by certain posters despite her being a proven liar in the British courts amongst many other horrible aspects of her mean girl personality.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 15:53

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:49

You are missing the point. I was challenging the implied concept that we should never feel sorry for someone if they are rich.

"Who could feel anything but sympathy for this tragic millionaire who had to grow up being only third in line to the throne instead of second."

There was no need to mention that he was a millionaire. It is just the common cheap shot of trying to dismiss anyone's negative experiences if they are rich.

No one is saying they never feel sorry for rich people in general though are they? we just don’t feel sorry for HRH Prince Henry HTH.

Hughs · 26/08/2024 15:54

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:49

You are missing the point. I was challenging the implied concept that we should never feel sorry for someone if they are rich.

"Who could feel anything but sympathy for this tragic millionaire who had to grow up being only third in line to the throne instead of second."

There was no need to mention that he was a millionaire. It is just the common cheap shot of trying to dismiss anyone's negative experiences if they are rich.

No, I'm afraid you are missing the point, which is that Harry is complaining bitterly about being in a situation that almost every other human on earth is also in - not being heir to the throne. Not only that, but he's doing it from a way more privileged position than almost everyone else. So to those who are a) not the heir to the throne and b) not a prince and c) not incredibly rich, he comes across as a right dickhead imo.

(You can tell I'm not anti rich people because of all the rich people I am not criticising, you know, the ones who don't complain about their lives.)

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 15:56

Here is a rich person I feel sorry for, Prince William for having such a nasty treacherous brother who sold family secrets for the mighty dollar, there you go @Nadeed bang goes your theory.

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:57

@Hughs then why mention he is a millionaire? It was irrelevant and was a cheap shot.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 26/08/2024 15:58

Well Harry is well and truly the spare now to his wife. Wonder if he realises it.

He doesn’t complain that his cousins are lower down the line of succession, meaning that they aren’t as important as he is, just moans that he is lower than his brother.

He doesn’t understand his privilege and that is what a lot of people can’t understand & possibly stand about him.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 16:02

I can’t believe there are people who actually feel sorry or Prince Harry because he was once only third in line to the throne! I wonder if they are sat at home playing a lament on a gigantic violin for him?

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 16:02

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/08/2024 16:02

I can’t believe there are people who actually feel sorry or Prince Harry because he was once only third in line to the throne! I wonder if they are sat at home playing a lament on a gigantic violin for him?

😂

PoppysAunt · 26/08/2024 16:03

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:57

@Hughs then why mention he is a millionaire? It was irrelevant and was a cheap shot.

I thought it was an expensive shot.

Hughs · 26/08/2024 16:14

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 15:57

@Hughs then why mention he is a millionaire? It was irrelevant and was a cheap shot.

Because the fact that he is incredibly privileged and rich is relevant. He has had, and continues to have, advantages in his life that billions of people can only dream of. And yet he cannot get over the fact that there exists someone who has something he doesn't. Whingeing like that from such a position of privilege is just awful.

Can you imagine setting down in black and white, after years of austerity and during a cost of living crisis, that your bedroom in your grandmother's castle, on her 50,000 acre estate, one of many such homes, wasn't big enough for your liking?

Or how embarrassing it was that your grace and favour residence as a single man was smaller than your brother's, who had a wife and family? When the brother had lived in that same residence when first married and had somehow managed not to complain about it publicly?

Let's not even talk about the sausages 🤦‍♀️

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 16:18

@Hughs if you think it is relevant, and I do see your point of view, then it is also relevant for others to talk about other Royal Family members being rich when they criticise them?

Hughs · 26/08/2024 16:24

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 16:18

@Hughs if you think it is relevant, and I do see your point of view, then it is also relevant for others to talk about other Royal Family members being rich when they criticise them?

I'm still not sure you're getting it.. it's the juxtaposition of extreme wealth and privilege with complaining about how hard your life is. If I were criticising Harry for eg being a liar, or a racist, or a cheater, his fortune would be irrelevant.

So yes, if criticising other royal family members for complaining about how difficult and unfair their lives are, you should also reference their wealth. If criticising them for something else, eg Charles falling out with his fountain pen, it's not really relevant.

smilesy · 26/08/2024 16:24

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 16:18

@Hughs if you think it is relevant, and I do see your point of view, then it is also relevant for others to talk about other Royal Family members being rich when they criticise them?

It would be if the other members were whingeing in spite of their privilege. But they are not. The point pp are making is that Harry is wealthy yet whinges about trivial things. If other members of the RF did that then it would be right to criticise them in the same way. Otherwise their wealth is not relevant to the criticism iyswim

eta x post @Hughs who explained it better

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