Harry to be removed from the line of succession?

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Apparently this has been discussed at the Balmoral summit: an act of parliament to remove Harry and his heirs from the line of succession as they are no longer U.K. residents or working royals. Makes sense to me - I doubt many people would object. Don’t the Swedish royals have a similar rule? They only keep their titles & place in succession if they live in Sweden? Handy precedent there.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/prince-harrys-position-line-succession-33518669.amp

I wasn't rooting for anyone to die for gods sake, more shame on you that this was where your mind went! I just hope the British people come to their senses and stop fawning over this useless embarrassment of a family as per their clownish role in our society and get rid of them, i.e. return them to what they actually are which is nothing special just another random family of odd balls.

Harry clearly has too much time on his hands and too little money to fund the lifestyle to which he is accustomed, not to mention delusions of grandeur. I bet he is a nightmare to live with due to his constant whining.
He need to take up a hobby, such as paintings he could sell. Then he could call himself The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

Nope, the shame is wholly on you. That's how it reads. There was already reference to "something drastic~" upthread, and that was clearly what it related to. Take responsibility for your own words.

The British people are happy with the status quo. If you don't like it, go live in a republic,

@wordler I have never watched GOT, but I know it has dragons which are Harry's area of expertise, I believe.

@EmpressOfTheThread I really hope it never comes to pass and we never have to find out! I do think Harry needs to removed as a counsellor of state (is he even eligible based on residency anyway?). I also think William and Catherine need to be given a stern talking to about traveling together with all their children on the same plane/helicopter. It's a horrible thing to have to send your children separately, but a necessary evil imo.

Send William with Louis and Catherine with the older two. Yes, it's more vehicles, but a neat way to have 2 heirs per conveyance.

You could of course swap the DC around to spread the risk. But I don't think William should get to travel child-free (especially if its long haul)

@EdithWeston I'm not sure whether they go abroad much with the children - they are very good at keeping their private family time private. I think they do take a few domestic helicopter flights, which are arguably more dangerous than a long haul flight. But yes, that sounds like a solution, although William should alternate between Louis and Charlotte.

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I also think William and Catherine need to be given a stern talking to about traveling together with all their children on the same plane/helicopter. It's a horrible thing to have to send your children separately, but a necessary evil imo

George was always going to have to travel separately from William from next summer when he turns 12. I wouldn't be surprised if they've already brought that forward to now with the way things have gone with Harry

I bet if he was to become heir they'd be back over here in a flash.

But he can't even do art - he needed his art teacher to do his examination art work for him.

Regardless of what we think of individuals, it is inaccurate to say they have a clownish role in society.

The King is Head of State, he has a constitutional role in the laws that are passed, the installation of new governments, the appointment of many positions in the framework of our society, the representation of the country at home and abroad etc etc.

Calling that clownish does not give me any confidence that any republican solution you have to offer would be well enough thought through as to be an improvement.

Didn't we all learn from Brexit that simple seeming solutions are a disaster when those involved haven't thought about the details.

Those are good points, @MrsLeonFarrell . Some of these type of responses are at best naive; at worst wilfully ignorant of the UK political system.

Very true, @Rhaidimiddim !
To be fair, @MrsLeonFarrell they don’t do themselves any favours when they dress up in those ridiculous outfits for the order of the garter ceremony or whatever it’s called. That takes pomp and pageantry a step too far in 2024 in my view.

Harry is not a UK resident at present, but that could change in the future, particularly if his relationship runs into problems or just as he gets older. He is almost 40 now so middle-aged and both his, and the RF's priorities may change. Or if money gets very tight.
I can see him coming back into the fold as he becomes less relevant in the US, especially if his father is still alive.
But if William is on the throne then all bets are off...

I can't see Meghan coming back or letting him take the children back in his own ( not sure I would either tbh in her position) so I think he'll stay in the US for at least the next 15 years, whether or not they stay married. Doubt there will be anything left for him to come back for by then. An estranged brother and niece and nephews he hadn't seen since they were toddlers?

The children is an interesting situation. Technically custody is held by the monarch for children that high up the line of succession. This may have been changed recently, and frankly I don't see Charles enforcing it, but it's still technically the case and I wonder if it's why Meghan is hesitant to being the children here.

There was a lot of fuss made when Tony Blair wasn't made a Knight of the Garter at the usual time for an ex PM. It may seem a lot of fuss and feathers but the establishment, those with real power rather than the press, still use these sorts of markers to see who is where in the pecking order.

Every country does dressing up. Have you seen the ceremonial Greek guards with the pom poms? Or the Indian flag ceremony?

Good. I think that's best all round.

No, I haven’t seen those, @EmpressOfTheThread
i think William might modernise things when his time comes though. I remember thinking he looked self conscious in the robe and feathered hat.

I don’t think modernisation means removing the pageantry. It’s an important part of our history. And like pp have said, every country does dressing up and tradition somewhere. It links us with our ancestors. I think William’s modernising will extend more to what the RF do in relation to their roles, not what they wear

Papergirl1968, you can google the Greek and Indian regiments mentioned, but here’s another couple of European heritage costumes that are still valued today.

One of the Contradas of Siena (there are 18 or so, I think) in their uniforms still made in accordance with renaissance designs and proudly worn twice-yearly at the Palio horse race.

The Swiss Guards at the Vatican - still an elite military troop - wearing their unforms based on 16th century images of the Guard. They are said to have been designed originally by Leonardo da Vinci.

Jettisoning centuries of history and culture because “normal” people don’t dress like that (spoiler: they never did! These are outfits for high-status positions) seems an overreaction.

Those are splendid, @Serenster ! It's interesting that wherever you go, different cultures have some amazing costumes.

Jettisoning centuries of history and culture because “normal” people don’t dress like that (spoiler: they never did! These are outfits for high-status positions) seems an overreaction.

A bit of puritan republicanism for the modern ages. They'll be closing down the theatres too 😂

Totally agree! That whole Order of the Garter ( aka the Monarch's besties) should be phased out. Constitutionally unnecessary, and they all just make themselves look out of touch and right tits.