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Harry to be removed from the line of succession?

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Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 17:15

Apparently this has been discussed at the Balmoral summit: an act of parliament to remove Harry and his heirs from the line of succession as they are no longer U.K. residents or working royals. Makes sense to me - I doubt many people would object. Don’t the Swedish royals have a similar rule? They only keep their titles & place in succession if they live in Sweden? Handy precedent there.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/prince-harrys-position-line-succession-33518669.amp

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Menstum · 22/08/2024 19:44

GrazingSheep · 22/08/2024 17:18

Does that mean Andrew would move back up the ladder?

I bloody well hope not!

Menstum · 22/08/2024 19:45

Misthios · 22/08/2024 17:34

With William having three children it's all academic - Harry is never going to be king and the order of succession doesn't really mean anything.

They could all go together in a plane/helicopter/car crash!

crockofshite · 22/08/2024 19:46

Misthios · 22/08/2024 17:34

With William having three children it's all academic - Harry is never going to be king and the order of succession doesn't really mean anything.

Well, shit can , and does, happen.

Harry might very well find himself in the running.

WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 19:47

Aye, sure. Remove Harry and co and then we're one tragic accident away from King Andrew. Fantastic idea.

PoopedAndScooped · 22/08/2024 19:47

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:41

Well let’s wait and see, shall we? 😌 People probably thought the same about Andrew at one point..

Andrew isnt poor either 😂

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:49

I think they could introduce a rule regarding U.K. residency quite easily. Invite Harry to make a decision. It’s ridiculous to keep calling yourself ‘Prince’ of a country you don’t live in. Obviously if some future heir was displaced into exile due to war or similar - that would be different. But choosing to become a permanent resident elsewhere is voting with your feet. The public would probably be in favour of it. And any political/diplomatic issues could be overcome by making it clear the ball is in Harry’s court: live in the U.K. as a royal in the LOS or find freedom elsewhere. The choice can be entirely his.

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Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:50

PoopedAndScooped · 22/08/2024 19:47

Andrew isnt poor either 😂

Well according to the Daily Mail he can’t even afford to get the decorators in…

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WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 19:52

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:49

I think they could introduce a rule regarding U.K. residency quite easily. Invite Harry to make a decision. It’s ridiculous to keep calling yourself ‘Prince’ of a country you don’t live in. Obviously if some future heir was displaced into exile due to war or similar - that would be different. But choosing to become a permanent resident elsewhere is voting with your feet. The public would probably be in favour of it. And any political/diplomatic issues could be overcome by making it clear the ball is in Harry’s court: live in the U.K. as a royal in the LOS or find freedom elsewhere. The choice can be entirely his.

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Don't they have family styling themselves as princes and princesses of Greece and the like? They really can't pull at that thread.

Harry IS a prince, and his children ARE a prince and princess. Andrew and his daughters too. The whole point is we don't get to choose. If you think there should be criteria for the titles, then you don't believe in monarchy.

wordler · 22/08/2024 19:53

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:49

I think they could introduce a rule regarding U.K. residency quite easily. Invite Harry to make a decision. It’s ridiculous to keep calling yourself ‘Prince’ of a country you don’t live in. Obviously if some future heir was displaced into exile due to war or similar - that would be different. But choosing to become a permanent resident elsewhere is voting with your feet. The public would probably be in favour of it. And any political/diplomatic issues could be overcome by making it clear the ball is in Harry’s court: live in the U.K. as a royal in the LOS or find freedom elsewhere. The choice can be entirely his.

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I think that would work.

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:58

WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 19:52

Don't they have family styling themselves as princes and princesses of Greece and the like? They really can't pull at that thread.

Harry IS a prince, and his children ARE a prince and princess. Andrew and his daughters too. The whole point is we don't get to choose. If you think there should be criteria for the titles, then you don't believe in monarchy.

Tell that to the Nikolai formerly known as ‘Prince’ of Denmark.

His grandmother sparked a brief controversy when she whipped away his title and those of his siblings but the fuss didn’t last long. Second-rung royals are ten a penny, things move on pretty quickly and no-one cares. With a couple as unpopular as H& M, such a move would be welcomed.

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Reugny · 22/08/2024 19:59

wordler · 22/08/2024 19:53

I think that would work.

It doesn't work.

The wider line of succession includes people who don't live in the UK but in other places around the world. If the Royal Family in the UK as we know them today were all wiped out then one of their more distant European relatives would be invited by Parliament to have the throne.

RedRosesPinkLilies · 22/08/2024 20:00

I think if we got to the point where either Harry or Andrew were going to be King - the ENTIRE country would vote for a Republic. Even staunch Royalists?

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:01

There’s plenty of eligible royals in this country, I’m sure they’ll be happy to take their chances. That 8th cousin twice removed in Brisbane can breathe easy…

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WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 20:02

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:58

Tell that to the Nikolai formerly known as ‘Prince’ of Denmark.

His grandmother sparked a brief controversy when she whipped away his title and those of his siblings but the fuss didn’t last long. Second-rung royals are ten a penny, things move on pretty quickly and no-one cares. With a couple as unpopular as H& M, such a move would be welcomed.

I'm all for them stripping titles. Heck, I'd strip all of them. But I do think all of the threads (and there have been many over the years) about stripping Harry's titles that make no mention of Andrew do make the whole thing slightly ridiculous.

How on earth can Harry be so egregious but Andrew is fine.

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:07

WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 20:02

I'm all for them stripping titles. Heck, I'd strip all of them. But I do think all of the threads (and there have been many over the years) about stripping Harry's titles that make no mention of Andrew do make the whole thing slightly ridiculous.

How on earth can Harry be so egregious but Andrew is fine.

Well Andrew hasn’t left the country to find freedom? I’m probably in the minority but I struggle to see any basis for removing his titles - he hasn’t been found guilty of any crimes and he keeps out of sight. If he ended up first in the LOS, I imagine it would be a catastrophe for the RF because he’s deeply unpopular, but that’s very unlikely to happen.

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WickieRoy · 22/08/2024 20:09

I really hope you are in the minority if you find moving to your wife's country to be worse than sleeping with trafficked women.

LlynTegid · 22/08/2024 20:11

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 19:50

Well according to the Daily Mail he can’t even afford to get the decorators in…

The Daily Mail was probably very disappointed the only time that a Royal was removed from the line of succession as it were- Edward VIII. Who like them probably supported the Blackshirts.

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:13

LlynTegid · 22/08/2024 20:11

The Daily Mail was probably very disappointed the only time that a Royal was removed from the line of succession as it were- Edward VIII. Who like them probably supported the Blackshirts.

He wasn’t removed - he chose to leave.

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EmpressOfTheThread · 22/08/2024 20:17

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:13

He wasn’t removed - he chose to leave.

He was removed by the Baldwin government. Fortunately he complied. He was quite resistant at first, at one point trying to negotiate to be Prince of Wales again. It took a bit of doing.

Rhaidimiddim · 22/08/2024 20:17

Lockupyourbiscuits · 22/08/2024 18:56

I agree the line of succession shouldn’t be meddled with
As long as a Monarch resides in the U.K. that should be the only stipulation
We have had past Monarchs from abroad so can’t change the rules now ( unfortunately)
Plus who knows Archie could grow up to be a lovely person - especially if brought up by a Nanny 👍

But the history of this Royal family is one of (first) jostling and then, with and after Cromwell, political meddling to give the country a suitable Head of State, when genetics threw up a loser.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 22/08/2024 20:18

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:07

Well Andrew hasn’t left the country to find freedom? I’m probably in the minority but I struggle to see any basis for removing his titles - he hasn’t been found guilty of any crimes and he keeps out of sight. If he ended up first in the LOS, I imagine it would be a catastrophe for the RF because he’s deeply unpopular, but that’s very unlikely to happen.

Harry hasn't been found guilty of any crimes either. He certainly hasn't been accused of involvement in trafficking teenage girls. Harry is also mostly out of the way, it's just that certain rags find it very profitable to write stories about him or, more honestly, his wife.

EmpressOfTheThread · 22/08/2024 20:21

They write stories about the Sussexes because they're click bait - they're always trying to get the headlines. They're desperate for attention, and go the right way about getting it. Click click, the papers and the Sussexes win. Symbiosis.
I've zero time for Andrew but he's keeping a low profile now, thankfully.

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:25

Alltheprettyseahorses · 22/08/2024 20:18

Harry hasn't been found guilty of any crimes either. He certainly hasn't been accused of involvement in trafficking teenage girls. Harry is also mostly out of the way, it's just that certain rags find it very profitable to write stories about him or, more honestly, his wife.

Harry has chosen to leave the country which is the point. Best to stick to the topic at hand.

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DappledThings · 22/08/2024 20:25

LuluBlakey1 · 22/08/2024 19:40

In the US (where there is a fascination with the British Royal Family) and in countries like Colombia (to the government there) it is a huge advantage to them. You don't seriously think Nexflix did a $100 million deal with them just because they liked them.

But removing him from the line of succession doesn't change that. He's still Harry, controversial brother to the PoW and will be brother to the King. Even if he loses his Prince title he'd probably still be Duke of Sussex (like the Duke of Windsor).

Netflix, or any gossip mags etc aren't going to lose interest in him because his a teensy bit less likely to become King.

His complicated and public relationship with his family, who are the royal family would remain in place and just as useful a source of gossip and speculation to fuel another few documentaries.

wordler · 22/08/2024 20:30

Thinkingabouttherapy · 22/08/2024 20:01

There’s plenty of eligible royals in this country, I’m sure they’ll be happy to take their chances. That 8th cousin twice removed in Brisbane can breathe easy…

I think there are plenty of UK residents in the current line of succession before we’d need to start looking abroad - but you could make it as simple as if you want to stay in the top ten you have to live in the UK. And if you are a minor in the top ten you have to be educated in the UK.

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