Harry to be removed from the line of succession?

[Thinkingabouttherapy]

Apparently this has been discussed at the Balmoral summit: an act of parliament to remove Harry and his heirs from the line of succession as they are no longer U.K. residents or working royals. Makes sense to me - I doubt many people would object. Don’t the Swedish royals have a similar rule? They only keep their titles & place in succession if they live in Sweden? Handy precedent there.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/prince-harrys-position-line-succession-33518669.amp

iid love for it to happen

on the other hand it givees them another poor mee headline

All the Cambridges would have to be wiped out before George produces a babe, ie in the next 15 years, for Harry to get a look in.

It’s already been considered. You’d be surprised how often second sons get the throne - half of them have in 🇬🇧. The Queen and Prince Charles had a massive go at the Cambridges after Megxit for all travelling in the same plane. William stroppily ignored them.

In the event of a catastrophe, the royals would probably pop Prince Edward/Anne in as Lord Protector while they updated the Act of Succession to exclude Harry. Law can do anything it wants in these situations.

The govt could boot H by advising him to step down (that’s what got Edward VIII out because the monarch has to accept his govt’s advice).

In theory Harry could be king, but no one’s going to let him anywhere near a throne.

As Meghan said 'they are only one plane crash away from the throne'

As we have a Constitutional Monarchy in the UK it’s Parliament, not the Royal Family, who is in charge of who is in line to the throne.

This was set down most importantly in the 1701 Act of Settlement which skipped over any number of people who would have been in the line as descendants of Charles I or James II, but were Catholic. This is how Protestant George the Elector of Hanover came to be first in the line of succession after his second cousin Queen Anne died without an heir.

This was amended in 2015 to mean that people in the line of succession who had married Catholics but did not themselves convert were reinstated (e.g. Prince Michael of Kent). However if you convert to Catholicism yourself, you’re still excluded (e.g. Lord Nicholas Windsor, the second son of the current Duke of Kent).

Given that the rules can and have been amended from time to time, I don’t think it would cause particular upheaval if Parliament were to consider that in order to be a serious potential candidate - in the top 10, for example - to be the Head of State you have to reside in the UK. I think most people would probably see that as fairly uncontroversial as it’s quite normal to have some kind of birth or residence restriction for high public offices in most countries. But I dont think it’s particularly likely here.

Clearly, the scenario of how William, George, Charlotte and Louis might be removed has gone through her head. Bizarre!

I think it's a great idea, maybe it will inspire the masses to remove the whole lot from the line of succession.

If I was Charles I would make a deal with both Harry and Andrew and buy them off. Give them lfetime security, a big chunk of cash to live on in return for abdicatng. They can keep their Duke titles.

Surely the absolute point of a monarchy is that the successor is the successor?
If we can start choosing who we want then let’s just have elected heads of state.

Thank God William and Kate had 3 children.

So the chances of Harry being Monarch is low! And the chance of ANDREW being Monarch is virtually zero! 😬

It would be worth it though! 😁

Oh, please! This has been covered in this thread already.

Since the 1550s, the British establishment chooses from a pool of candidates who will best suit current needs, when genetics throws up an unsuitable candidate.

Learn some history.

That kind of deal is not without precedent, StartUpRepair.

The deal that Queen Elizabeth and Anthony Eden hammered out in the 1950s that would have allowed Princess Margaret to marry Peter Townsend involved removing Margaret and any children from the marriage from the line of succession. The plan was that this would mean the Queen's permission (which was a thorny issue due to Townsend’s divorce) would no longer be necessary. Margaret was to be allowed to keep her royal title and her allowance, stay in the UK, and even continue with her public duties. But ultimately Margaret decided that she didn’t want to marry Townsend and so it was never put into effect.

Harry has created a situation where none of the RF want to speak with him, or have much to do with him because they’re worried they’ll end up being the topic of conversation on some tacky chat show, or be an entry in his next book. That’s the reason why Charles is always ‘busy’ when Harry pops over to the UK. He’s slowly being fazed out by the RF, and will eventually just be an irrelevant individual, of no interest to anyone.

Quite frankly my dear, I dont give a damm!

I live in the Commonwealth and I think it's a good idea. I can't imagine many people here caring two hoots.

The Daily Mail? Ha! Must be true then 😂

If Harry couldn’t cope with the role he had, and has so much anger toward the institutions of the monarchy, then clearly he could not and would not be able to be the monarch. If he is officially removed from the order of succession though, I don’t think his children should be. Ridiculous as the hereditary principle seems when you look directly at it, they do have that hereditary link and they may have very different attitudes and abilities to Harry. Hopefully it will never be an issue since only tragedy could lead to that.

The idea of Prince Andrew in the line of succession is nauseating. I mean the idea of Prince Andrew is nauseating, enough said.

It should happen, though I think the likelihood is very slim.

I would enjoy though seeing how Harry manages to try and victimise himself in the situation. After all, he's talked repeatedly about his place in the LoS being the reason that he has such high security requirements and that he and his family aren't safe in the U.K. So he should be delighted with a move that removes any vestige of constitutional relevance he has.

Of course he would never accept that, as he's the biggest hypocrite going - if that was in any way a genuine argument then he would have stopped using his titles and wouldn't have insisted on his kids claiming their Prince and Princess titles. Still, I would find the ensuing tantrum quite funny.

I believe Harry should be removed from LoS and as a CoS, but surely then they'd have to remove everyone else in the LoS that is not a working royal and that'd leave almost no-one?
Better to use the "can't be in the LoS if living overseas".

I agree. What happens in the very unlikely event that William and all his children die in an accident? The prospect of Harry as King would cause civil unrest and be an absolute disaster. If he’s a US citizen I can’t see how that would work anyway.

I've seen the 'Balmoral sunmit' mentioned by several media outlets. Are they forgetting that it's tradition for the RF to spend the summer in Balmoral. If anything theyve probably agreed that talk of the Sussexes is banned so they can enjoy their summer.

I think that (very unlikely event) would be the catalyst for the ending of the monarchy. Neither Harry nor Andrew would be acceptable to the majority of the population - in the past (well, in the last 300 years or so) the next in line was broadly acceptable so it only needed to skip one person.

I don't think that Harry or anyone should be removed if they do not wish to be removed (unless perhaps at some future point there is a clear code of conduct or standards that someone can be removed for violating). But there absolutely should be a way to apply to remove oneself and one's heirs from the line of succession, without having to ascend to the throne and abdicate (before any children) are born to do it.

This is unlikely to happen, though, because divine right is by nature absolute; allowing someone to say, essentially, "I'm xth in line to the throne, but I'm NOT Royal" throws the whole institution into a questionable light.

I don’t think there is divine right any more we we are now a constitutional monarchy. I’d actually say I think Harry and his dcs should be required to reside in the U.K. if they wish to remain in the LoS. Can’t see it happening though!

Does it really matter either way, I doubt we’ll have a monarchy for that much longer.