New Meghan and Harry interview

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JAN MOIR: She gave Harry an icy stare any husband would know - watch what you're saying, mister!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13707697/JAN-MOIR-Harry-icy-stare-husband-watch-saying-mister.html

It's supposed to be the PR " Summer of Love". I kid you not. They are promoting the love. H & M have the worst PR company in the world.

I promise i am not a bot, just a lurker that is appalled at their horrendous behavior. One was handed the world on a silver platter and the other thought she was going to live in a Disney movie as a princess living in Buckingham Palace as a "princess"

I agree with this. I hope they have experts in the background who are helping them. Very vulnerable people are being encouraged to share their stories online with little professional support as far as I can see.

There are other, established places that already offer support, why can't Harry and Meghan campaign but point to those places?

The irony in an online forum for people to discuss Internet safety probably won't be lost on a lot of people, they're ignorant.

Starting from scratch as a PP said is hard, but they had the time, platform and money to do so but still squandered it. I hate their 'show up, do good' mantra- how many involved in charities simply show up? They graft, something these grifters can't be bothered to do. The only reason they've gone for the charitable service angle is because Harry thought it would be easy as he as a Royal had these opportunities on a plate and indeed all he had to do was 'show up' as it was all arranged for him- and MM likes cosplaying Diana; who for all of her faults you could tell was genuinely passionate about she did which they can't replicate because they do it to benefit themselves.

I will surely never understand why they didn't go to the Palace doctors rather than HR. Because, the Royals have doctors around them all the time. If I was Harry I would've got a doctor in to see her that night not gone to the royal albert hall.

Why not her midwife, ante natal counsellor, or Consultant Obstetrician? All on the equivalent of speed dial as part of her luxe Portland package, as @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar has referred to.

Probably the same as all the things ( 40x40, Lemonada etc) listed earlier. Things are announced to great fanfare then nothing 🤷‍♀️.
She is losing thousands of followers on Instagram.

"The only reason ghry've gone for the charitable service angle"

You forgot, they get to kepp 95% of donations, and get tax relief on any donations they make.

Is that true, @Rhaidimiddim ?! They get to keep 95% of donations? What's the process for donating the remainder?

@PoppysAunt not if she wasn’t giving birth there at the Portland. I still can’t understand, amongst other things, how she was allowed home after an hour post epidural. NB: Spare. That’s unusual & most stick around and rest & eventually eat, even stay a night. Rushing to the people carrier was surely not something they needed to do. It must have been stressful. They were keen to be behind ‘closed doors’ before they announced the birth officially which is likely why they needed to dash. But why couldn’t they stay put for a bit for R&R? Harry says not a very easy birth so even more important if so?

I really feel re: bereaved parents the human connection is needed not only or principally online. WAY & WAY UP as some know well here are incredible and you can meet up in the flesh. Establishing a confidential group like WAY could work so well, they don’t let anyone join as a safety measure, you have to prove your eligibility.

@User14March when Meghan had her suicidal thoughts, she was pregnant with Archie.
She was under the Portland for ante natal care. My point, and that of @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar and others is this - why go to HR when you have medical experts, related to your pregnancy on speed dial?
I'm not talking about Archie's birth, but that night they went to the Albert Hall when she was suicidal.

These are exactly the points I raised a couple of days ago, MrsLF, but nobody seemed to know - which is fair enough I guess, since there's so little detail on the website as to what the "help" actually is beyond connecting with other parents

It is really hard not to get the impression that everything they are doing at the moment is being launched before it is ready. Which is fine when all you are doing is promising jam, but an online forum for bereaved parents needs more thought and planning before launch.

@PoppysAunt I take your point but if we take Harry’s account at face value there is much about the care that just doesn’t add up not least the available help. M will have hopefully & no doubt built a good relationship with her team by this stage, they’d want to have taken steps to help & as you & others say would be a natural first port of call. It’s also not encouraged re: living immediately post birth esp post epidural.

*leaving

Absolutely, yes, and it's not as if there's any lack of available advice for those wanting to get involved in this sort of area

Unfortunately it appears H&M believe they can make a difference simply by saying they can, and that's really not enough where complex issues are concerned - though I guess it might be enough to keep what remains of their fanbase happy

Does Spare say she had an epidural? I thought she had gas and air?

Apparently Lady C has claimed that Meghan had her children through surrogates! There seem to be batshit theories that Meghan had a hysterectomy before she married Harry. Never heard of this before and sure it’s all nonsense but it does make you think!

I was the same as you! 😮
Not sure when the clip was from, I’ve never seen it before. It could have been due to an expose in the times that was written in 2021. As he mentioned that their lawyers had gone over all of the information before allowing it to be printed. Or it could have been on the promotion drive for Courtiers. What was really interesting to me was that it seems as though Meghan was looking to be slighted from the beginning. “She was looking for rejection”

This is a summary from an article, but yes, apparently she had an epidural and then they were home 2 hours later (including travel time, so this means they'd have left pretty soon after), which is a load of made up nonsense. Harry recounted chugging on the gas and air:

Meghan was induced after being past her due date, with no signs that her waters were going to break. Harry said both he and his wife were calm, but decided to get some takeaway - Nando's to be exact - to make things better.

Meghan used a giant, purple exercise ball during contractions, and was in a birthing bath listening to "soothing music".
"In an overnight bag we had the same electric candles I'd arranged in the garden the night I proposed. Now I placed them around the hospital room. I also set a framed photo of my mother on a little table. Meg's idea. She was in so much pain that she needed an epidural."

Harry then said that watching Meghan give birth was stressful, particularly when they saw the baby's head coming out with the umbilical cord tangled around its neck. Within two hours of Archie being born, they were back at Frogmore Cottage, to avoid media attention at the hospital.

Photo of Diana is creepy AF.

Having been induced and having had an epidural that doesn’t make sense.

Perhaps she was bullying the staff And they wanted her out asap

Harry was high on Meghan's gas and air. Who knows what went on, he's not exactly a reliable narrator at the best of times.

Even if she had a 'walking epidural' (rare here) unless we are supposed to believe she headed home in a car unable to move her lower body, catheter in situ then it's a load of made up rubbish. Harry does caveat the entire book by saying his memories might be muddled but it's his truth and that's what matters- bizarre thing to lie about though.

I wasn’t posting to say they should start anything from scratch. I was posting that there had been questions asked on the thread as to what they had done that continued to be successful and responses of projects like Smart Works weren’t set up by them. I started my post with “I think the question was”…..
However, I agree with others pps that they had the, money and support to launch any project they wanted. They just don’t ever seem to put the work, planning and effort in to ensure success. They work one hour a week for their charity. I disagree that they haven’t had time. They’ve had plenty.
ARO is from scratch, time will tell how it works out. They need be innovative because donating to a charity through Archewell, simply makes them a donor or supporter. (Although you wouldn’t have thought so with the vaccine program that they completely rode on the coattails of).

I agree with you about Sophie and Anne. They take their work and advocacy very seriously and are taken seriously because of this. It’s a very important point that they have educated themselves in their fields, and have spent time doing so. Thus earning respect. They also don’t preach and pretend that they are experts. Something which Harry and Meghan have done with this venture to the disdain of many. (Including me).

Patronages are very useful to be able to champion a cause without the setup of the organisation. However, I doubt very much that people are queuing up to invite them to be patrons of charities in the US. It was the complete opposite here, where working Royals are given these roles. It comes much easier this way.