New Meghan and Harry interview

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JAN MOIR: She gave Harry an icy stare any husband would know - watch what you're saying, mister!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13707697/JAN-MOIR-Harry-icy-stare-husband-watch-saying-mister.html

I'm not an expert. I imagine they either just give it to e.g. Uvade town council to build a playground, or just leave it in the coffers.
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@WillowWands I don’t see using a surrogate to be such a batshit crazy idea (for one or both of her children) as increasingly the norm for those in her circle as is egg freezing. Egg freezing is pretty routine & surrogate use openly discussed in US/Canada actress crowd. Preserves figure & career longevity for soap actresses unfortunately. Weight loss injections also unthinkable for those with a normal BMI or low BMI & for us mere mortals but it’s going on in CA & in London & elsewhere amongst a certain demographic.

If a surrogate used & it came out it would effectively violate laws of succession etc so possibly why titles much more vital if the case?

Not good PR for Portland re: turfing out in an hour, need for Nandos in delivery suite (would an A type woman really allow?) & running out of gas & air! Etc.

I was posting that there had been questions asked on the thread as to what they had done that continued to be successful

I know you were, @MummyJ12, but as with the question about whether professional support's actually available on the latest parental initiative there's been no answer - which rather suggests that the "continued success" isn't there

BTW on Lemonada it's been reported that the launch was put off because they didn't want it overshadowed by that of ARO ... only that doesn't seem to have come to much either, which makes me wonder what Lemonada would have been overshadowed by

An ante natal counsellor???

Wow. I wish we proles had the luxury to be as traumatised as Meghan is.

Yes, look up the Portland maternity packages! Pricey for a reason. You get all the benefits 24/7 of course. No queuing or waiting.

I always think it’s strange they announce these new initiatives to garner positive press, and then manage to use it to talk about the trauma of being in the royal family.
If your ‘brand’ is trauma what do you think the future is, how many people/companies want to attach themselves to that. If you are living your best life, why are you always talking about the negativity in your life.
They are either not surrounded by good people or don’t listen to them.

Exactly @Puzzledandpissedoff. Thank you.

I do feel empathy for her if she felt that way, which I believe she probably did.

But the way they've told different versions and are attempting to weaponise it against the RF is gross. Harry says he worried about the effect on the monarchy if she sought counselling or support, but then in Spare says he called his therapist after the alleged fight with William; so why would be have said to his pregnant wife no sorry you can't if he had a therapist? Why did he think even if it did 'leak' that people would judge this, or that it would leak at all? It's all just very weird, and the fact the majority of people struggle to access and afford MH support for themselves and their children, it's incredibly tone deaf to be complaining about this.

Edit to add: also agree about the maternity team, even under the crumbling NHS whilst access isn't perfect, maternal mental health is taken seriously and they are of course bound by strict patient confidentiality.

Really good points. I agree.

Speaking as someone with vast experience of support groups (NA and AA for over a decade), I think online communities are very dangerous for people with poor mental health and absolutely a HUGE red flag for suicidal people.

Reason being is that there's often little proper professional oversight and unless you have large teams of highly experienced professionals working in shifts, poor moderation. Meaning that it's a bunch of highly vulnerable people all trying to support each other but in actuality the potential for dangerous behaviour to be communicated, or members to be triggered, is enormous.

Also how would an actively suicidal person be traced? The Samaritans can and do send the police to kick your door in if you give them your address and they have reason to believe you are engaged in the act.

My understanding of suicide support groups best practice is they're done in person with at least two professionals to every 4 attendees. Although I did a straw poll last night of my friends who work in psychotherapy (a LOT of us go into it after getting into recovery!) and 3 out of the 5 I asked said they were against suicide support groups at all for the actively suicidal, because the risk of communicating behaviours is so great. Actively suicidal people should be under very close in person care and supervision.

An in person support group for parents who have lost a child to suicide is totally different and obviously a good thing as long as it's properly professionally run. As individuals who have lost a family member to suicide become at much greater risk themselves.

Surely you wouldn't want to rush your 1h old baby out if he was born with the cord around his neck?

I expect he means they left an hour after everything was done, not just labour.

If you had an epidural would you be able to bounce around on a birthing ball? I had neither so don't know.

It sounds like Harry is just making up a load of old bollocks and claiming that everything including the kitchen sink was included in Archie’s birth - epidural, entinox, birthing ball, baths, candles, singing seals, Diana’s hologram, gourmet chicken dinners, cord around the neck and in and out in 10 minutes. Just a normal sounding labour and birth 🙄😂😂

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According To Spare, MM had 2 epidurals as the first one didn’t take. She would for sure have had a catheter. Usually they keep this in until the epidural wears off and you can walk and independently pee and defecate - which a responsible hospital will want to ensure you do before you are discharged. This is why I do not believe they were discharged after just 2 hours. Allowing a non patient husband to suck on so much gas and air that it runs out sounds like medical negligence, frankly.

Oh he didn't know what was going on. Like much of the events recounting in "Spare", really.

It's about an hour drive from the Portland hospital to Frogmore cottage as well, so she would have been discharged within the hour. No one knew she was there during labour, so why they wanted to 'escape' so the press wouldn't know he'd been born is fantasy. I'm still not over her suggesting they take a framed photo of Diana though wtf, if he had taken one then bit different but it's disturbing.

Loads of celebrities give birth at the Portland. It's perfectly easy to arrive and leave without anyone knowing and the hospital observes very strict terms of confidentiality.

Those rumours have been circulating for years .

What’s funny about it is Harry is clearly, at the very least, embellishing the story of Archie’s birth, without even thinking that a good proportion of the population have actually been through the experience of labour and birth and are fully aware that he is talking shite 😂😂

Late to the party - back from a week without screens!

Lots of really good points on this thread, but the thing that jumped out at me having only recently watched this interview was the change in Meghan. She looks physically different - her face is much more angular and has lost its softness, but oh my goodness - the change in her demeanour!!

She looked so exasperated, beaten down and 'done' with things. I don't mean as in 'bullied and persecuted by the evil RF', but more with her life in California and....Harry. Totally gone are the cow-eyes and loving gazes of previous joint interviews. When she turned to him she seemed tense and angry. I realise I'm not the first person to point this out, but I've only recently watched and it made a huge impact on me. Yes, the hand was on Harry's knee, but I don't think there was even a pretence of affection. Meghan, as an actress, can usually turn it on for the camera, but she seemed totally unable to 'glow', even as an act.

Either something had riled her up before the start of the interview, or she's showing the strain of the last few years of failed initiatives and seemed to be losing any sense of spark and hope.

I may be over-reacting slightly, but wow - I ALMOST (for a second) felt a bit sorry for her. She is NOT a happy person, is she?

I do find it funny, though, the level of foolishness!

I just don't think she liked the interviewer much. The interviewer seemed to be taking the mick slightly. Or at least maybe less deferential than they are used to.

I think Meghan looks like Julia Roberts with her new cheekbones! I thought she looked good tbh, liked the outfit too, the pantsuit is a great look for her.

You make some good points here. I think the main problem they have is expertise and experience in the form of a proper team.

In his old life, Harry could just wave a hand and say he wanted to set up something like Sentebale and then his team on the ground would make it happen, all the boring but vital stuff like setting up the charity correctly, running it, getting funds where they need to go to etc etc. Literally Harry could just 'do good by showing up'.

Likewise Meghan, I don't know too much about her charitable work before she met Harry, but I presume she was similar to old Harry in that she was the 'talent', the 'face' and could just show up to a charitable event and make a speech whilst an actual team of experts handled all the practical and logistical and financial stuff behind the scenes.

My sense of watching them now is that they don't have any team, at least not at meaningful numbers or experience levels, to do the hard behind the scenes graft. Which is why all their initiatives seem so... ephemeral and ...flimsy. They've got the surface bit, the PR bit, right; they know how to do that. But there's no one to do the actual work, which is why everything seems to feel superficial, ill planned or just seems to fizzle out.

Julia Roberts has a wonderfully expressive face and a wide exuberant smile. Also she seems, in the nicest possible way, to be ageing naturally.

I agree that Meghan didn’t look too happy . Have read on SM ( so may not be true) that she was not pleased with the interview and shouted at the producer .
Will try to find article while keeping an eye on the Olympics .