New Meghan and Harry interview

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JAN MOIR: She gave Harry an icy stare any husband would know - watch what you're saying, mister!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13707697/JAN-MOIR-Harry-icy-stare-husband-watch-saying-mister.html

I watched it on the CNN website, it was a load of twaddle, but they seemed fine together, she was her usual most important self and he was the side kick.

I do not doubt Meghan when she speaks about how she was feeling when pregnant. I do doubt her story that no one helped.

I’ve never believed her I’m afraid, abusive men use the threat of suicide to control their wives “if you leave me I will kill myself” and it’s clear Meghan needs to be in control, coupled with the fact she cosplays Diana whenever the opportunity arises who threatened to throw herself down the stairs when she was pregnant, Meghan knew exactly what buttons to push with Harry.

I thought him doing that roof gesture was very odd but quite funny and childlike. He is (or they are) ‘fascinating’ as my son would say, and it’s not a compliment when he says it lol.

Re her ‘haven’t scratched the surface yet’ I believe she’s saying that because her other ventures have failed. She’s having to circle back to old news because she hasn’t really got anything new or viable going on.

I think Harry wasn’t using comforting body language because he’s knows it’s a load of crock and my guess is he’s bored with her (but obviously hasn’t a clue what to do about it).

My other guess is he looks longingly at Ben Affleck and wonders why he too can’t rid himself of a narc wife the way Ben can (it’s called having talent Harry, and oodles of money).

Here’s an interesting video of a Queen & Commonwealth trust event for International Women’s Day which took place a couple of months later (March 2019)

Watch Adwoa Aboah talk (from about 15:20 in the video) about her suicide attempt. And then listen to Meghan’s speech, which follows.

such a contrast.

It’s very difficult to say that you disbelieve someone’s declared suicidal ideation and obviously we have no real idea of exactly how the Duchess was feeling. However, there are so many inconsistent and downright bizarre claims in both her and Harry’s account of this episode that it does seem unlikely that she is being entirely truthful. MrsLeon is applying her own standards of honest expression of feelings which, unfortunately may not be the course of action that Meghan is following. It is difficult to believe that she felt this way, received no help apparently and yet recovered quickly

H+M are a fascinating case study in what happens long-term when PR goes wrong.

Also a salutory reminder that PR alone is no substitute for substance.

Their case study should be taught in college Communications courses.

In other words, don’t be all mouth and no trousers 😆

I’ve always found it strange that this episode was never mentioned again, nothing in Spare, nothing in the six part reality show or any other interview or book that I know of.

Well, yeah, but more than that tbh. Don't make grand announcements you can't follow through on. Don't make highly specious word salady speeches about love and authenticity that, souffle-like, collapse at the slightest pressure of scrutiny.

Above all, don't assume that just because something seems old-fashioned and conservative, it's automatically useless. Meghan's derision of the RF on her Netflix show (the curtseying, the reservation of character, the non-propensity to hug strangers) implies that she thought that she saw zero value in the RF way of doing things and thought that she could sweep it all away, new broom like, and tun it into a hard shiny Californian confection.

But as time goes by it's looking more and more like the stodgy old suet pudding Windsor way of doing things - turning up, being stoical, talking to hoi polloi, not complaining - actually gives an institution far more mileage and sustainability than flash, pizzazz and the constant rehashing of old traumas.

I think what I'm getting at is...maybe the boring old stiff upper lip attitude of our ancestors...has something to be said for it after all. Maybe those old fuddy duddies actually knew a thing or two of what life is all about?

Who knows?

I think she is good at the surface charm thing. Talking about the weather etc, but she has no depth beyond that. I doubt she spent hours doing research and taking a genuine interest like some of the other members of the family.

I agree with this.

Jan Moir is vile. Why would anyone read her?

I agree. There is so much emphasis by the Sussexes on how they feel and how they are victims that it is defining them completely. There is little prospect of feeling inner peace if you are constantly railing against perceived slights and injustice. Sometimes it’s better just to suck it up. When life gives you lemons make Lemonada ..oh, wait 😂

I think she is good at the surface charm thing.

Never trust anyone who is highly charming on the surface and otherwise in private. Sociopathic trait.

Thank you @GiveMeSpanakopita for your interesting posts on this thread.

It definitely was mentioned in Spare, BigWillyLittleTodger, and I'm almost certain it made it into the Netflix 6-parter, though I'm not going to watch the whole thing again to check (it was bad enough the first time )

Very brave of you though, to say on here that you didn't believe it

Thanks for clarification, will have to check out what he said now! No doubt me not believing her will not be well received by some people. I do believe she said it to Harry, I don’t believe for one second she had any intention of doing it for reasons stated in my previous post.

You'd think Harry would write about such a distressing episode in Spare, and that it would be mentioned in the Netflix series and subsequent interviews.

That bump really changes size day to day.

The Vintage Read has done an overview of the timeline and cross referenced the inconsistencies of their accounts in Spare (where it is mentioned) and on Oprah, plus press coverage at the time of the Royal Albert Hall event.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NxcwSe2e4

I’m sorry but this is rubbish

So it has been pointed out to me that the parents that Harry and Meghan “met” as part of launching this, on CBS Sunday morning, were the same parents that attended the Archewell event in New York for Mental Health Day last year. It was made out that this was the first time that they had all met. (The father from Sunday’s interview can be found sat second left to Harry in the New York group photo.) The couple in the middle of the table from Sunday’s programme are far right in the same group photo.

I think @GiveMeSpanakopita makes a good point about the stodgy royal approach. The late Queen, Charles and Anne have all spoken about the need to not be too innovative. Instead they try to be slightly behind the curve of culture and society. It makes sense because this way they avoid doing something that is out of date six months later. It's a delicate balance.

I can see how that would be strange to someone like Meghan who is used to celebrity culture where you are always having to reinvent yourself to keep people interested. I don't think she ever grasped that you don't need to keep people interested when you are part of a constitutional monarchy, you need to avoid causing offence or being seen as flashy or flaunting wealth or out of step with the more conservative (small c) middle in society.

More lies then…