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Sussex Whiplash

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ConstantGarden1 · 17/07/2024 23:14

Sometimes, all the different media outlets who purport to know the inner workings of all things Sussex can give me whiplash. One moment the Sussex duo are on the outs with everyone, hemorrhaging or devoid of influential friends, making no headway with Netflix, losing money, can’t afford their mortgage and claimed to no longer be relevant. Then Suits saw an upsurge in viewers - fantastic ratings on Netflix, the BBC buys Suits, Invictus is being promoted via Harry’s award and trips, he receives a heartfelt standing ovation, Meghan finishes filming a new Netflix series purportedly linked to a nascent commercial venture and a new podcast is set for next year.

‘Lonely’ Harry, as some will insist on writing, is also not something that rings true for me. He has too much charisma, energy, interests, causes and is a people person. I also cannot think of anyone who needs to say I am friends with x, y, and z on a regular basis for the benefit or not of strangers. We don’t know who they are friends with, really. Meanwhile, pundits continue to engage those interested in the couple with whatever they can attributing the information to some made up mysterious ‘sources’. I suspect their real friends are quietly keeping their own counsel. Especially, now they have seen the mutual pathological loathing that Harry and the tabloids have towards one another. Can’t say I blame them either.

Now there is this:

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Frank A. Bennack, Jr., Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy, President & CEO

and

Tribute Chairs

Ariel Emanuel, Jon Feltheimer, Whoopi Goldberg, Taraji P. Henson, Matt Johnson, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Gayle King, Debra L. Lee, Mellody Hobson and George Lucas, Scott Mills, The Honorable Nicole Avant and Ted Sarandos, Kerry Washington, Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Invite You to

Cocktail Reception 6:30 pm
Dinner & Program 7:30 pm

The Beverly Wilshire Hotel
9500 Wilshire Blvd. Beverly Hills, CA 90212
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Considering Whoopi G had less than favourable words for the couple I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at any meetings held. No doubt ‘netizens’ will have their microscopes to the ready to give us all their ‘insights’ regarding the events of the evening. No doubt I’ll get whiplash again when all their combined fingers hit the keyboards.

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    Frank A. Bennack, Jr. , Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy , President & CEO   and Tribute Chairs Ariel Emanuel ,  Jon Feltheimer ,  Whoopi Goldberg ,  Taraji P. Henson ,  Matt Johnson ,  Jeffrey Katzenberg ,  Gayle King ,  Debra L....

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Nosummerontheagenda · 19/07/2024 23:43

'The sad aspect is that they fell at the first hurdle when it came to Harry’s new relationship. Considering mental health advocacy is incredibly important to H and M I find that I no longer buy in to anything the heir might say on that subject. If he truly cared he would show it now and always.'

Well, it’s so important that Harry was ashamed that Meghan wasn’t coping and stood by whilst she went to ‘HR’ to ask for help. He himself is a clear illustration of failed therapy .

IsoldeWagner · 19/07/2024 23:44

He was a shocking husband when she needed help. Instead of admitting this, he blamed his family. How low.

PrincessMee · 20/07/2024 00:47

ConstantGarden1 · 19/07/2024 22:25

“Do you think it will be ok if the Palace releases its files on Harry to give their side of the way he was treated?”

Definitely. I am also a great believer in family therapy and if ever there was a family who needed it - they are it. Harry and William and their father. All so sad. My heart goes out to KCIII as he is caught between a rock and a hard place regarding his sons. I hope he is finding some happiness and peace. I believe that the king is a genuinely kind and philanthropic human being who spoke up before many others about important issues. I also think he is quite a good King, even if challenged by a pen when grieving for his mother and being rather curt to an aide regarding Camilla’s raincoat problem. I’m glad he has the woman he loves by his side. I still remember watching their blessing in church and it was lovely. Camilla looked fabulous.

Oh for goodness sake 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 20/07/2024 00:58

I believe that the king is a genuinely kind and philanthropic human

So do I.

Shame Harry isn’t.

ConstantGarden1 · 20/07/2024 01:04

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 22:47

Great stuff. The alleged violent attacks on women? The extensive drug taking? The stuff he got up to whilst in the army? You’re happy for that to be aired if it’s true? And all the other rumours post relationship and post marriage? Happy for the truth to come out? I would be really happy to hear whether there’s any truth to all those rumours once and for all.

As William and Catherine founded Heads Together, Catherine is well aware of mental health issues through her closeness to her brother, and Charles has been open about his own struggles, I doubt any of them are not seeking the help they need - I imagine they have been doing this for years, just like Harry followed his brother’s advice many years ago and sought help for himself, resulting in therapy on speed dial. The royals seem close and mutually supportive. I don’t see them flailing around for support, quite the opposite.

How to go off on a tangent. lol. Specifically, what occurred in KP regarding the accusations levelled at Meghan. As far as Harry’s younger life is concerned he has been upfront about that. If you feel the need to keep beating him over the head with a free copy of Spare then have at it. Despite the machinations of those who are paid to serve up crud for the populace I am sure that it remains true that H and M are: ‘Much loved family members’ and ’to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas’. I hold the view that W is the one that cannot move forward and address the hurt that both sides have internalised. Life is short and in the end family matters and forgiveness is not beneath anyone, least of all a future King who won the lottery by virtue of being the firstborn. I only hope that he manages any issues with his three kids better than he did when he had a brother who was his spare. Life has a way of biting you hard when you hold on to anger and negativity. Much better to build a bridge than pull up a drawbridge in a huff because you only value your own perspective and not that of the other person. When you fall into that pattern of behaviour it does not bode well for the future.

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ConstantGarden1 · 20/07/2024 01:11

PrincessMee · 20/07/2024 00:47

Oh for goodness sake 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ain’t love grand. 😜

Sussex Whiplash
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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 01:12

Ah, so that’s the sort of “family therapy” you want. Where the brother who hasn’t fucked up has to gaslight himself to appease the narcissist. I think reputable therapists advise against therapy with abusive types - it just fuels them. I think William’s kids appear to be just fine, happy and thriving, with 2 sets of loving family looking out for them. You should save your worries for the invisible ones.

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 20/07/2024 01:14

a future King who won the lottery by virtue of being the firstborn

Is that the responsibility lottery?

DeftLemonDog · 20/07/2024 01:17

Why does she insist on wearing shorts . It’s just so desperately inappropriate. Her legs are terrible and she’s just a total embarrassment.

Nope. This post is the embarrassment.

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 20/07/2024 02:14

ConstantGarden1 · 20/07/2024 01:04

How to go off on a tangent. lol. Specifically, what occurred in KP regarding the accusations levelled at Meghan. As far as Harry’s younger life is concerned he has been upfront about that. If you feel the need to keep beating him over the head with a free copy of Spare then have at it. Despite the machinations of those who are paid to serve up crud for the populace I am sure that it remains true that H and M are: ‘Much loved family members’ and ’to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas’. I hold the view that W is the one that cannot move forward and address the hurt that both sides have internalised. Life is short and in the end family matters and forgiveness is not beneath anyone, least of all a future King who won the lottery by virtue of being the firstborn. I only hope that he manages any issues with his three kids better than he did when he had a brother who was his spare. Life has a way of biting you hard when you hold on to anger and negativity. Much better to build a bridge than pull up a drawbridge in a huff because you only value your own perspective and not that of the other person. When you fall into that pattern of behaviour it does not bode well for the future.

That is a very unhealthy mindset. This rift was not caused by a simple difference of opinion. A man cannot be on good terms with someone that publicly attacks his wife and his marriage. Harry cannot be trusted around William’s family.

DeftLemonDog · 20/07/2024 04:49

Did anyone answer my question ( yesterday I think) about why H and M don’t give up their titles and break completely free from the toxic institution?
**
Any update about African Parks ?

I think people are tired of debating the titles thing.

It was debated to death on here back in 2023.

I did a quick advanced search (of titles only) and found 2 threads devoted to the titles question. I remember it as being repeatedly brought up and addressed on other threads too. It was a hot topic on here, sm and YouTube in the first half 2023.

I advise those who want to know the differing opinions on ‘why Hand M don’t give up their titles’ to do a search.

Africa Parks is now a gotcha question I think. It’s like asking when is Charles going to speak to the participation of the British monarchs, and Monarchy, in Colonisation and Historical slavery and the accruing of vast wealth from both? Other than asking for, and waiting for, ‘research’ to be done.

CoffeeCantata · 20/07/2024 07:12

DeftLemonDog · Today 04:49

But H and M are famous speech-givers. Meghan particularly loves a mic!

I think that's what infuriates people about the African Parks scandal. Has Harry made any statement yet? It's the absolute silence and dereliction of any kind of responsibility about AP which looks so bad. It's as if they either think people will just forget, or that they don't believe they (or just H) have any actual responsibility for what's happened.

No-one is suggesting that H is personally responsible for the abuses but he needs to say 'I'm shocked to hear of these allegations and I've asked for an investigation to be carried out' - or something, and then follow through. I just cannot get over the radio silence on this! It makes them both look insincere and dodgy - as if they just like turning up in posh clothes to make speeches for their patronages, but don't take any genuine interest.

IsoldeWagner · 20/07/2024 07:52

They constantly say that they "speak out" and "speak up", but are strangely silent on certain matters.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 07:52

DeftLemonDog · 20/07/2024 04:49

Did anyone answer my question ( yesterday I think) about why H and M don’t give up their titles and break completely free from the toxic institution?
**
Any update about African Parks ?

I think people are tired of debating the titles thing.

It was debated to death on here back in 2023.

I did a quick advanced search (of titles only) and found 2 threads devoted to the titles question. I remember it as being repeatedly brought up and addressed on other threads too. It was a hot topic on here, sm and YouTube in the first half 2023.

I advise those who want to know the differing opinions on ‘why Hand M don’t give up their titles’ to do a search.

Africa Parks is now a gotcha question I think. It’s like asking when is Charles going to speak to the participation of the British monarchs, and Monarchy, in Colonisation and Historical slavery and the accruing of vast wealth from both? Other than asking for, and waiting for, ‘research’ to be done.

But what is your opinion on why they won’t give up the titles?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 08:02

As to slavery and colonialism reparations. IMO it’s not possible and not helpful for POC like myself going forward. We are being used as pawns for white people who don’t have to live with the racial fall out. And it will only be fair if every perpetrator is held accountable, which includes the African slavers who carried on the practice long after the British abolition and patrolling the seas to stop slave ships; and all the beneficiaries, which will include a plethora of ordinary people who benefited via their ancestors through pensions, property and industry fuelled off the back of people like my ancestors. I hope those baying for reparations are going to look into their own ancestral past and how they as descendants of the British Empire still benefit today. And be willing to pay up. I doubt it though.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 08:04

@ConstantGarden1 Do you urge equally Meghan to have family therapy with her father and siblings?

IsoldeWagner · 20/07/2024 08:15

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 08:04

@ConstantGarden1 Do you urge equally Meghan to have family therapy with her father and siblings?

What an excellent point. Somehow I doubt it! 😂

IsoldeWagner · 20/07/2024 08:16

Good points about slavery and reparations, @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar .
Such a complex issue.

AnnieMcFanny · 20/07/2024 08:24

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/07/2024 22:37

I would really recommend The Vintage Read wholeheartedly. She’s thinking of writing a book of her research into the real origins of the H&M relationship ( well before the official version) and when the online attacks against Catherine began in tandem.

I had a look but didn’t know where to begin looking in amongst all the reels. I’m also not a fan of Lady Colin Campbell.

What is suggested about when Meghan and Harry first met?

LaMarschallin · 20/07/2024 08:31

DeftLemonDog

I think people are tired of debating the titles thing.

Which people?
You and other people who haven't got an answer to that question so would rather it wasn't asked?
I'm tired of people doing things like posting random pictures of Meghan followed by comments like "So beautiful! 😍😍😍😍😍😍" because it's childish and boring imo.
I don't suggest they should stop though.

smilesy · 20/07/2024 09:05

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 19/07/2024 23:12

Hello @smilesy

Tis always the way…

It is one of the more insidious tactics employed imo. Claiming to like someone but then suggesting ever so nicely how they should deal with the favoured one. I think I prefer those who are honest enough to say they just don’t like the others 😆

Mylovelygreendress · 20/07/2024 09:10

DeftLemonDog · 20/07/2024 04:49

Did anyone answer my question ( yesterday I think) about why H and M don’t give up their titles and break completely free from the toxic institution?
**
Any update about African Parks ?

I think people are tired of debating the titles thing.

It was debated to death on here back in 2023.

I did a quick advanced search (of titles only) and found 2 threads devoted to the titles question. I remember it as being repeatedly brought up and addressed on other threads too. It was a hot topic on here, sm and YouTube in the first half 2023.

I advise those who want to know the differing opinions on ‘why Hand M don’t give up their titles’ to do a search.

Africa Parks is now a gotcha question I think. It’s like asking when is Charles going to speak to the participation of the British monarchs, and Monarchy, in Colonisation and Historical slavery and the accruing of vast wealth from both? Other than asking for, and waiting for, ‘research’ to be done.

Debated to death ??
If my memory is correct, the answers from the Sussex supporters were either “ why should they , Harry is a Prince by birth and the Queen gave him the Dukedom “
or “ why should they when Andrew still has his title “
For what it’s worth I agree that Andrew should have his title removed .
If H and M are as popular and successful as their supporters claim , surely they don’t need titles from the toxic institution? Why inflict titles on their little children ?
Could it possibly be that with those titles H and M would be of even less interest ?
@DeftLemonDog why do you think k they won’t give up their titles ?

Hughs · 20/07/2024 09:11

Life has a way of biting you hard when you hold on to anger and negativity. Much better to build a bridge than pull up a drawbridge in a huff because you only value your own perspective and not that of the other person. When you fall into that pattern of behaviour it does not bode well for the future.

Absolutely staggered that anyone could write this about William and not Harry - is it a joke?

What is "holding on to anger and negativity" if not complaining in your late 30s that your older brother got an extra sausage and had a nicer bedroom in Granny's castle?

IsoldeWagner · 20/07/2024 09:11

Those titles mean everything to them. They're nothing without them.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/07/2024 09:15

Hughs · 20/07/2024 09:11

Life has a way of biting you hard when you hold on to anger and negativity. Much better to build a bridge than pull up a drawbridge in a huff because you only value your own perspective and not that of the other person. When you fall into that pattern of behaviour it does not bode well for the future.

Absolutely staggered that anyone could write this about William and not Harry - is it a joke?

What is "holding on to anger and negativity" if not complaining in your late 30s that your older brother got an extra sausage and had a nicer bedroom in Granny's castle?

William had the nerve to be born first. For that he must always atone. All Harry’s woes stem from this. There can be no peace until this injustice is put right

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