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Princess of Wales to attend Wimbledon Men’s Final

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 13/07/2024 10:25

Kensington Palace have confirmed that Princess Catherine will be attending the Wimbledon Men’s Single Final on Sunday.

news.sky.com/story/princess-of-wales-to-attend-wimbledon-mens-singles-final-13177335

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LaMarschallin · 14/07/2024 16:31

Her dress certainly looks beautifully tailored on her and fits perfectly.
It's these little details that make all the difference, isn't it?

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 16:38

I think another point worth considering is that there are countries with a notably high standard of living and welfare structure, eg Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Belgium and the Netherlands who all have monarchies and show very little sign of wanting to get rid of them. Social equality and high welfare standards are not predicated on the absence of a monarchy but rather the political will to make sure those things are central.

Those societies are much more egalitarian though aren’t they? My colleague is Dutch & says their RF are considered very down to earth, they don’t have crowns/coronations, members have jobs and kids go to state schools. The RF are popular but are seen as very modern & quick to move with the times. I think culturally the UK is very different.

pinkfondu · 14/07/2024 16:38

Ffs anyone who begrudges someone doing something enjoyable in her condition needs to get some compassion

smilesy · 14/07/2024 16:42

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 16:38

I think another point worth considering is that there are countries with a notably high standard of living and welfare structure, eg Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Belgium and the Netherlands who all have monarchies and show very little sign of wanting to get rid of them. Social equality and high welfare standards are not predicated on the absence of a monarchy but rather the political will to make sure those things are central.

Those societies are much more egalitarian though aren’t they? My colleague is Dutch & says their RF are considered very down to earth, they don’t have crowns/coronations, members have jobs and kids go to state schools. The RF are popular but are seen as very modern & quick to move with the times. I think culturally the UK is very different.

If it’s the societies that are more egalitarian though, getting rid of the Royal Family won’t automatically precipitate that in the UK. Society probably need to change first 🤷‍♀️

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 16:45

@smilesy I haven't claimed it would just think you can’t really compare as culturally we are so different 🤷🏻‍♀️

Uricon2 · 14/07/2024 16:47

I said to my DH that is I'm due punishment on my demise, they won't need the hot place, just a massive screen showing 24hr tennis for the rest of eternity!

That said, it's nice to hear of so many people who've been able to get tickets, or enjoy it from Henman Hill.

Nevermetaghostididntlike · 14/07/2024 16:47

Whatdoyouneedsonia32789 · 14/07/2024 11:27

Thanks for such a thoughtful reply.

I agree that society will never be equal for the reasons you have listed. But I believe that whoever represents us should try as much as possible to lead by example and represent values which, as far as possible, seek equality and social justice, even when that is unattainable if that makes sense. We should at least aspire towards it.

I also agree with what you have said about figureheads but I think an elected President would do as equally a good job without the massive disparity in wealth and circumstances. Many other successful liberal democracies countries have elected Presidents. Russia is a bit of an extreme example!

The credibility of the RF is undermined imho when William for example visits a homeless shelter but we know he will inherit vast estates and castles. He is asking us to contribute to these charities when he himself has at least three or four homes and access to many others. No doubt he is personally very genuine about his support for charities such as Centrepoint etc, but surely you can see that his message is undermined by his circumstances? It comes across as hypocritical and therefore lacking in credibility.

Edited to say: Very interesting point about George but let’s not pretend that Royalty are going to suddenly start marrying bus drivers or factory workers. It would be great if they did mind you!

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You have made some very good, intelligent points. :-) Also, considering how unhinged some people have become towards the Wales and Sussex families I think it is time to move on from the anachronism that is the 🇬🇧 Royal Family. UK’s USP is no longer fit for purpose and this pitting of individuals (against one another online) in the most prominent family does 🇬🇧 no favours. The RF must no longer represent the nation as all it does is reinforce the idea of an unequal society and the class system. Plus they are becoming a bit of a joke.

As for the future I can’t see a Monarch as Head of State. As for figures it’s clear that it is the older generations who hang onto them more. My kids couldn’t give a rat’s a**e about them but have heard lots about H and M. They seem more inclined to following them and find them relateable.

Princess of Wales to attend Wimbledon Men’s Final
smilesy · 14/07/2024 16:49

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 16:45

@smilesy I haven't claimed it would just think you can’t really compare as culturally we are so different 🤷🏻‍♀️

No I realise you personally haven’t, it’s just that others seem to think that way

Gorgonemilezola · 14/07/2024 16:51

'My kids couldn’t give a rat’s a**e about them but have heard lots about H and M. They seem more inclined to following them and find them relateable.'

Sure, sure they do Grin

Did you hear the cheer the Princess of Wales received at Wimbledon?

Barbadossunset · 14/07/2024 16:51

TimeWheel · Yesterday 21:30
Too bad she's not well enough to do any of the less fun stuff that's slightly more like work. How fortunate that she's ok to watch the tennis though. After she was seen in public for an event a few weeks ago, it was never in doubt that she'd be at the tennis.

The very enthusiastic welcome she received must have been very annoying for you.

Dhruinseeses · 14/07/2024 16:54

I’d like to see more meat on her bones, so she has something in reserve.

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:57

Annabel Croft looks outstanding 😍😍

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:58

For all the comments re the lesser mortals newspaper article, I hadn't even heard about it until this thread

smilesy · 14/07/2024 16:59

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:57

Annabel Croft looks outstanding 😍😍

That was a very amusing Freudian slip when she said that Djokovic had been playing an opponent who was really hot 😂

MummyJ12 · 14/07/2024 17:00

Gorgonemilezola · 14/07/2024 16:51

'My kids couldn’t give a rat’s a**e about them but have heard lots about H and M. They seem more inclined to following them and find them relateable.'

Sure, sure they do Grin

Did you hear the cheer the Princess of Wales received at Wimbledon?

And the standing ovation! Everyone was on their feet, cheering loudly. Including A-listers such as Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise.

MummyJ12 · 14/07/2024 17:00

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:57

Annabel Croft looks outstanding 😍😍

She really does.

MummyJ12 · 14/07/2024 17:02

This is the dress that Princess Catherine is wearing today.

www.safiyaa.com/products/cecilia-lilac-midi-dress

Dhruinseeses · 14/07/2024 17:02

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:57

Annabel Croft looks outstanding 😍😍

Yep 👍

CelesteCunningham · 14/07/2024 17:09

I don't think we can really take the round of applause for a woman undergoing cancer treatment and her young daughter from a happy crowd as a referendum on the monarchy. Grin People can be happy to see her and see her doing well, no need to read any more into it.

MartyFunkhouser · 14/07/2024 17:11

ReadyTeddy1000 · 14/07/2024 16:57

Annabel Croft looks outstanding 😍😍

She really does. Gorgeous.

Uricon2 · 14/07/2024 17:19

MummyJ12 · 14/07/2024 17:00

And the standing ovation! Everyone was on their feet, cheering loudly. Including A-listers such as Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise.

I sometimes think they should give Tom Cruise a Royal Dukedom and get it over with!

Actually, he'd probably love it, stick around and work very hard, and he gets on well with William and Kate. No problem with housing/financial support, he's properly loaded. Might be quite refreshing.

RocketsMagnificent7 · 14/07/2024 17:20

Sethera · 14/07/2024 14:21

"THAT is what the British people people who have tickets to the men's Wimbledon final, likely to include many of non-British nationality who are not funding the British Royal Family; and otherwise likely to be dominated by those based in London and SE England and those who have the money to travel there and buy tickets, and generally likely to be more affluent people, think of the PoW, writ large."

Are you okay?

MummyJ12 · 14/07/2024 17:27

Uricon2 · 14/07/2024 17:19

I sometimes think they should give Tom Cruise a Royal Dukedom and get it over with!

Actually, he'd probably love it, stick around and work very hard, and he gets on well with William and Kate. No problem with housing/financial support, he's properly loaded. Might be quite refreshing.

Duke of Essex maybe?! 😂

PartyFearsTwo · 14/07/2024 17:34

I think Kate looked really lovely today - I loved her dress.
I saw a beautiful picture of princess Charlotte looking up at the PoW very proudly. The standing ovation was very touching.

EatMoreFibre · 14/07/2024 17:37

Whatdoyouneedsonia32789 · 14/07/2024 10:27

Because it actually does have relevance to the institution of the monarchy and therefore the RF itself. Not the individuals, but what they represent.

[Disclaimer: this is nothing to do with Catherine personally, I hope she has a great day at Wimbledon and that she is left in peace to recover fully and completely.]

The reason the “lesser mortals” comment caused umbrage is because, let’s face it, this is what the symbolism of the RF reflects.

The RF stand high above the crowd on a balcony in fine clothes, waving. The ordinary people wait down below.

The RF drive through crowds of ordinary people while police outriders clear their path.
The rest of us struggle through traffic or travel on public transport.

The RF appear in horse drawn coaches and Rolls Royces wearing expensive clothes and priceless jewels. The rest of us do what we can afford.

These symbolic acts have not come about by chance. They are carefully curated. But everyone seems to accept them without critical thought or reflection about what they actually say?

It could be argued that the RF represent the United Kingdom and that our joint nations should be shown off to their best advantage, so the RF have to have the best of everything.

But does our Monarch really need twelve homes, massive private wealth and vast private estates in order to do that job effectively?

An elected President could have one town residence in which to hold state receptions, and perhaps a country residence to host overseas visitors, and that would be perfectly adequate. We could still have all the pomp and ceremony of the military marches etc and honour our history and traditions in that way.

I believe that the symbolism of the RF is crass and anachronistic in 2024. What is it telling us? That some people are intrinsically worth more than others and should be crowned with jewels and clothed in golden robes m, and feted, owing to an accident of birth?

It’s morally wrong and downright unjust imho. Why are we expected to stand in awe of wealth and opulence anyway? What has that really got to do with “god and country”? Surely people are a nation’s best assets? What message is that sending?

Maybe it’s my religious upbringing talking here, but to my mind a homeless man on the street has as much intrinsic worth as any member of the RF and should be afforded the same civility and respect.

We should not have representatives that highlight,, emphasise, or indeed encourage unjust divisions, disparity and inequality, in terms of wealth and opportunity.

We should have a representative who encourages unity, fairness and social coherence.

An elected representative would have at least had to fight their own battles, worked alongside ordinary people, shopped in supermarkets, travelled on ordinary flights, and above all, have reached their position through graft and effort, and would therefore have more awareness of what an ordinary person goes through and therefore a better understanding of what would help them.

Now countless people are going to say; well you will always have inequality in society and having a monarchy doesn’t change that. And I agree that we will always have inequality because we are all different, with varied capabilities.

But I feel that’s it is imperative that we try, as far as humanly possible, that every child starts with equal opportunities and as fair a chance as everyone else, to work hard, and do well and make a decent life for themselves and their family. And our elected representative, the man or woman at the top, should reflect that ambition.

<applauds>

But this board is "it's either this or Putin" and "what about Harry and Meghan?"