Will he or won’t he win the battle against the Home Office?

[Tizzwazz]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-given-green-light-to-appeal-high-court-ruling-over-police-protection-13148987

“Granting the appeal, Judge David Bean said he was persuaded "not without hesitation" that Harry's challenge has a real prospect of success.”

I'll correct myself. The £1 was compensation for privacy. She did get substantial damages for the copyright infringement. Not substantial enough to save her reputation, though.

It is also rather arrogant of him to assume he can assess intelligence better than the professionals.

So Harry is scared for the safety of his family, yet travelled with his wife to Nigeria and lives in a country where pretty much anyone can own a semi automatic weapon, and where mass shootings are commonplace.

His and Meghan's own supporters have regularly made horrific threats against William Kate and their children. I would have more truck with his claims his family is unsafe if he recognised that his brother's family probably feel fairly unsafe to, as a result of the threats from the so called Sussex Squad.

His aunt survived an actual attempted kidnapping yet she only has protection when performing royal duties.

The 'neo nazis' jailed for making threats made threats against other people too. Should they all receive government funded protection?

Harry isn't doing 'everything in his power to protect his family' . Many of his actions have probably placed them more in harm's way than they otherwise would be (trip to Nigeria, recollection of his Afghanistan 'kill count').

What he's doing is waiting for someone else to protect his family. While causing other people to be on the receiving end of vitriolic abuse and threats based on Harry and Meghan's lies and half truths.

I wouldn't trust Harry to assess a football score, let alone an intelligence report.

I don’t share your conviction. Certainly, Harry’s confidence in institutions has taken a severe bashing. Security is the one major aspect of the whole sorry debacle that is a standout feature of treating him and Meghan differently.

Don't forget Jamaica @Gorgonemilezola . One of the most violent places on the planet.

How on earth is Harry doing everything in his power to protect his family when he and his wife go gadding to places like Jamaica and Nigeria ? Leaving their tiny children thousands of miles away ?

"Treated differently" from whom, exactly? And how?

And the same 'institutions' which you, as his apparently official spokesperson, believes he no longer trusts, would be responsible for protecting him in this country. So perhaps it's best he just no longer visits Britain. There is no official reason for him to be here. Maybe it's best he just stays in California, with the occasional visit to famously safe countries like Nigeria?

In what way are H and M treated differently @Tizzwazz ?

Meghan and Harry were never treated differently.
They received significant privilege and financial support.
I don't know why the lie keeps being perpetuated that somehow they would lose protection. They had protection, they have it now
They both lied.

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Slight digression but I am highly amused that the picture of Meghan at the Fiji market before she abandoned the visit has been used for this article.
Guessing she won't be happy to be poster girl for gender critical arguments.

x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1801575348175266260?s=46

www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/un-women-says-gender-critical-activists-are-anti-rights-movement-b5mk7h9qr

@Tizzwazz

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/meghan-markle-prince-harrys-family-33027990

A lot of the RF face legitimate threats - so much so that there's a unit (Royal and Specialist Protection Command and Fixated Threat Assessment Centre) dedicated to monitoring those threats (from overly devoted fans as well as terrorists, nutters and probably people who are fans of certain members of the RF but not fans of certain others). At least 200 (but that was according to the Mail, so I won't post a link for the sake of the more delicate among us).

Hence the amount of security the senior member of the RF get; the same security Harry would get if he comes to the UK and stays in a royal palace. The issue is that he can't be given that security elsewhere in the world as he'd like because of money and finite resources.

He wants limitless, taxpayer funded security, on demand. He doesn't really understand how it works.

Interesting. Visa related. I wonder how this will link in to the court case here, if at all. Fifth in line to the throne , what sort of visa was he given, right to privacy cited and Trump as a precedent. Can’t make this stuff up!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13532131/prince-harry-trump-meghan-markle-sussex-visa-fbi.html

PH isn’t an American citizen so not sure citing Trump is that much help to his case but, I’m not a legal person so 🤷‍♀️

I do think, and have done for some time, that he entered the US on a ‘head of state’ visa.

If he is in the US on a diplomatic visa, he can't legally work.

No, he can't 'legally' work on a Head of State visa. However, he's a entitled twit Prince who expects special treatment (see RAVEC) so a blind eye may have been turned by DHS, especially if the chances of Joe public ever finding out are slim to none.

The above would also avoid him having to have the usual checks made/questions asked that would be a requirement for all other types of visa application.

To me it does look like the DHS have something to hide but, the most likely outcome is we will never know.

@StormzyinaTCup something to hide is definitely what I am gleaning too. The Trump FOI isn’t remotely applicable to the Harry case in any material sense - he’s a immigrant, not an existing citizen, it’s comparing apples and pairs; and for the record, I think if you want to become President and head of the free world, there should be little to no privacy when it comes to official records held by government departments on you prior to your period in office.

I think Harry's main problem is that he hasn't been treated differently. He is being treated like any other non working royal whose security is assessed rather than given regardless of circumstances. The security he wants is what William has, but William has security as the heir, as an IPP. Harry will never be either.

He doesn't have the same security as Anne or Edward, who receive security when on official visits, because he chose not to have an official role.

He made his choice and he is receiving security above any other minor royal. It isn't enough for him but nothing ever will be until he finally gets effective therapy.

@MrsLeonFarrell 💯

Excellent post @MrsLeonFarrell

Agreed @MrsLeonFarrell . I actually don’t think anything will ever satisfy him because he will never be William. I actually think it goes beyond mere security, but that’s a useful thing to focus on, and the only one he can get any purchase on. If he had been able to, I am sure he would have been seeking to sue for a half share of the Dutchy of Cornwall too.

It's completely about ego and status. A person concerned about their security wouldn't leave their small children on the other side of the world to visit a very dangerous country, even with a military escort. Nor would they flounce off to another continent with no job and no security arrangements in place. He wants what his brother has, and can't accept that he's simply not as important as William and the gap between them will only increase with time.