Will he or won’t he win the battle against the Home Office?

[Tizzwazz]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-given-green-light-to-appeal-high-court-ruling-over-police-protection-13148987

“Granting the appeal, Judge David Bean said he was persuaded "not without hesitation" that Harry's challenge has a real prospect of success.”

He will!

Oh, ffs! Why can't he just give it up and pay the tax payers back what he owes us for what he's spaffed on this case already!
It's not that he can't have security at all when he travels here. Mind you, it would suit me quite fine if he never came back at all.

So the judge doesn't sound convinced it's a good idea.

I doubt it.

The judge was utterly scathing about his Judicial Review 'case'. And as he said in his judgement, even if the review were granted, all it would mean is that the Home Office would have to revisit his case, and would almost certainly come to the same conclusion all over again. So it's a complete waste of public money and resources. If Harry wants to add to his already considerable legal bill, that's fine, but despite his fans insisting that he costs the taxpayer nothing, he seems quite happy to waste taxpayers' money on his vanity legal cases.

I hope he fails and ends up paying costs for the Home Office. No need for him to have special treatment. He was offered to stay at St. James Palace where Princess Ann and Beatrice stay as security is already there but no, apparently not good enough for Harry. Plus he chose to go to Nigeria where security is poor.

and what happens if he does win @TallerSally? - RAVEC review their processes and may make the exact same decision again - as is their right. No win gives him de facto IPP status

It’s all gone a bit Bleak House.

He'll turn into Miss Flite.

I hope he wins. If Andrew gets police protection, so should Harry and his family.

Prince Andrew doesn't have police protection.

Andrew doesn’t get police protection, Charles pays for private security for him

And it looks as if that'll be withdrawn soon too.

I’ve no idea how the law works here, but to save money on defending an appeal, can’t they just say, “No need, we agree to review it.” And then review it and say they’ve come to the say conclusion?

Unfortunately, I don't think he will give up on the case. He seems to have become like a dog with a bone and I suspect part of his determination to pursue it has to do with Meghan refusing to travel to the UK and, more importantly, refusing to allow the children to come (on supposed safety grounds). The current situation provides her with the perfect excuse (not that I believe she needs one) but Harry perhaps ought to consider that she is unlikely ever to want to set foot in the UK again, regardless of threat level.

Totally agree @SilkFloss

As people have said, Andrew does not get taxpayer funded protection.
Harry does. Tax funded.
Even though he walked away.
It's the type of protection he's arguing about.
Do you think he doesn't get protection at all?!

The argument would then be who pays for the cost, as well as it would still be open for review if the same conclusion is reached. It would also be seen as what it is, delaying the outcome which Harry legal team would argue had removed/delayed his legal right to appeal the decision.

Whilst this UK case goes to yet another appeal and Harry's potential IPP status is up in the air, maybe the US State Dept will be asking for an adjournment of the Heritage Foundation Visa case, where is has come to light that apparently there are potentially stigmatising criminal investigations of Harry noted within the sought after paperwork. We don't want that mess going on in the background during the election run up, do we Joe?

This seems to be the crux of the matter from Harry’s perspective:

“After the ruling earlier this year, a legal spokesman for Harry said he intended to appeal, adding: "The duke is not asking for preferential treatment, but for a fair and lawful application of Ravec's own rules, ensuring that he receives the same consideration as others in accordance with Ravec's own written policy.
"In February 2020, Ravec failed to apply its written policy to the Duke of Sussex and excluded him from a particular risk analysis."
The spokesman continued: "The duke's case is that the so-called 'bespoke process' that applies to him is no substitute for that risk analysis.”

Gosh he is such a bore isn't he.

I know. He gets taxpayer security, risk assessed.
He's upset because he wants to be an IPP.
It's all so ridiculous.

Hope not even if it's just on the grounds of picturing the insufferable smuggery as he pontificates to the reviled press.

They could, but why would they when they believe they have done nothing wrong?

Also, Harry doesn’t want them to to through the same process again and reach the same decision, he wants them to go through a tweaked process (which he is hoping the court will order) and reach the decision he wants (which the court can’t order, and which I think is the real reason for this court action…).

“Granting the appeal, Judge David Bean said he was persuaded "not without hesitation" that Harry's challenge has a real prospect of success.”

Also, as there’s been some confusion about this, the judge is not saying here that he thinks Harry has a strong case. He’s saying that, with some hesitation, that some of Harry’s case meets the threshold necessary to be granted permission to appeal (the test you need to meet being that you have a real prospect of success). A “real prospect of success here” means “one that is realistic rather than fanciful, and does not mean a greater than 50/50 chance of success”.

Harry argued that he had five grounds on which he could appeal. The judge rejected three and a half of these, and allowed an appeal on one and a half of them - as he said, not without hesitation.

But, Harry has permission to appeal. So he may be successful. It is more likely he won’t, but litigation can be a lottery!

@BlueParrotRedParrot The Trump administration let Harry into the US, not the Biden administration.

You have to admit that appointing a US defense lawyer whose main argument is that Spare is really fiction is not being helpful to Harry. Not to mention it's made the book something of a farce, and Harry not to be taken seriously.