Will he or won’t he win the battle against the Home Office?

[Tizzwazz]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-given-green-light-to-appeal-high-court-ruling-over-police-protection-13148987

“Granting the appeal, Judge David Bean said he was persuaded "not without hesitation" that Harry's challenge has a real prospect of success.”

Yes, Smilesy, he’s still angling for Windsor Castle (he wanted to live there after his marriage). The optics of a castle are so much better than a flat with a back entrance.

It’s still my firm belief that if he’d secured a billet at Windsor Castle for his Invictus thing Meghan would have soon leapt out of hiding at Heathrow prior to flying to Nigeria, and would have made a very public royal progress to Windsor.

SilkFloss · 06/06/2024 23:17
Unfortunately, I don't think he will give up on the case. He seems to have become like a dog with a bone and I suspect part of his determination to pursue it has to do with Meghan refusing to travel to the UK and, more importantly, refusing to allow the children to come (on supposed safety grounds). The current situation provides her with the perfect excuse (not that I believe she needs one) but Harry perhaps ought to consider that she is unlikely ever to want to set foot in the UK again, regardless of threat level.

I agree that Harry has taken Meghan's excuses for not wanting to return to the UK at face value. When will he ever learn?

I wonder if he knew that she always planned to live in California and had no real intention of taking her place in the team? I bet she didn't tell him that either. I imagine he misses the UK, his old friends and parts of the old life and would love to re-connect. But he's so dim he doesn't realise a) that Meghan will never share this dream and b) he's completely burned his bridges with family and friends in the UK. For trust and security reasons alone he could never re-join the RF as a working member. I see a sad future for him.

I wonder if Harry was more concerned that his Netflix crew filming him might itself be filmed by the public/journalists/reporters from the BBC? Might have been too meta for his small but perfectly pompous brain to cope with.

Edited to say: that was following on from @MrsDanversGlidesAgain who wrote '... Harry throws a strop because the plebs might see his comings and goings.'

Harry throws a strop because the plebs might see his comings and goings.'

Yet the stallion was happy enough to write about them.

Her book will be a revelation I’m sure.

I cannot wait for her book! 😂
It's bound to be comedy gold.

I’d be very interested to read an honest book.

I do however think that we’ll get the comedy gold book of which you speak.

You raise an interesting point, @CoffeeCantata .
Just before H&M got married, I saw one of those blind gossip things, claiming they were house hunting in California.
I thought it was made up nonsense, because we were told that Meghan was getting UK citizenship and that they would be working royals. So that could have been the plan.

Or it could be that it would have been disappointing for his Netflix viewers to see him coming in and out of St James rather than Windsor so he circumnavigated this by staying in a boring hotel 😆

Just before H&M got married, I saw one of those blind gossip things, claiming they were house hunting in California.

If they'd said they were looking for a holiday home in California, it wouldn't have seemed an unreasonable idea; it's where M is from and back at the time of their wedding people would think she had friends and family there she wanted to keep in contact with.

But yes, I think it was always her plan to dump the RF and move back there permanently.

Oh smilesy -my brain read boring hotel as ‘brothel’.

Interesting what your mind sees.

😂

If I were Charles, I would tell Harry that he could stay at Windsor with his Netflix crew as long I could have my BBC crew filming them for a behind-the-scenes documentary. This could be hilarious! Behind -the-scenes footage of Harry being a jerk, the Netflix people complaining about Harry, etc. if we're really lucky, hapless staff forced to address Meghan, if she decides to grace Windsor with her presence, with her Nigerian title. SS caught on camera being jerks - the possibilities are endless.

God he's such a windbag so full of entitlement and anger towards the world. He 'left his job' ... no more perks of the job I'm afraid! I used to have a company car and dress allowance, but I don't keep the perks when I left!
He's as dim as a birthday candle with no wick that fool

@BemusedAmerican - what a brilliant idea!
Harry would be so flummoxed!

Yes, Smilesy, he’s still angling for Windsor Castle (he wanted to live there after his marriage). The optics of a castle are so much better than a flat with a back entrance

Had he got Windsor how do your reckon before he was demanding planes stop flying over because 'privacy'?

Thanks for the correction @smilesy . St James' Palace is the royal equivalent of Moss Side, then 🙄

I can't help thinking he deliberately didn't want to see his father, so he could moan about his family shunning him. On what possible basis would he need to take the Netflix crew with him for an overnight stay, when they are presumably there filming stuff about polo, not about Harry's family? I'm also pretty sure Meghan wouldn't have wanted such a meeting without her being party to it.

Please, somebody, make this happen! 😂

I'm also pretty sure Meghan wouldn't have wanted such a meeting without her being party to it.

I think this is very true. I think he was under strict instructions not to stay within spitting distance (excuse the metaphor) of his father in case he came under any family influence. Windsor would have been both acceptably grand and acceptably far enough from
his family

The classic cult tactic. As if the RF are suppressive people or similar.

Smilesy

I think this is very true. I think he was under strict instructions not to stay within spitting distance (excuse the metaphor) of his father in case he came under any family influence.

Yes - that rings true. I'm sure H & M are both a swirling mass of insecurities, and while we assume that H is still besotted with Meghan, it's likely I think that after 4 years in California he's missing aspects of his old life and would welcome some kind of easing of the tensions (naive as that is considering the history). I bet Meghan is aware of this and feels uneasy whenever he returns to the UK in case H falls under the influence of his family and friends. That would be a very small demographic now, though! Only Charles in sentimental mood really.

Only Charles in sentimental mood really.

Not even Charles, if H, as has been reported/alleged, refuses to have Camilla in the room. And Charles seems to be very fond of Catherine, and has no doubt been briefed about the SS vileness, including everything the security services know, so that won't have done H any favours.

Horrible thing to do to an elderly man who is not in good health, making him choose between his beloved wife and not so darling boy.

If this nonsense is really all about IPP status, then, turning this on its head, Charles is the one with Internationally Protected Person (IPP) status as Head of State. This extends to his immediate household, and to those who directly represent him in his HoS role.

It also brings Charles, and his immediate household, and those who represent him, certain protections from hostile actions.

The UN Convention Articles (notably Article 2.3) should be spelled out to Harry in single syllable soundbites if necessary. Harry is now NOT an IPP as he is neither a member of a Head of State's household nor does he represent a Head of State.

Harry perhaps needs to look closely at that passage in the Convention Article 2.3 on 'attacks on the person, freedom or dignity' of actual IPPs; not least while he is simultaneously slagging off Constitutional freedom of expression (his one defence) in the US.

https://treaties.un.org/doc/db/Terrorism/english-18-7.pdf

I am usually one who does not suspect people of being sly or as having some ‘agenda’ as a rule. However, I am left wondering why Harry included his ‘kill total’ in his book. It was unusual and I am given to think, maybe, a strategy for if he pissed off enough of the extremists then he, like Rushdie, would have been able to force the government’s hand. Obviously, I don’t know what I don’t know but it is a curious nugget of information to include and I think he included it for a reason.

Or he could just be a braggart gobshite trying to make himself look big, hard and important.

I know what I’m leaning towards.

@LadyPenelopeForever Thanks to Harry's incessant press releases, everyone know where he will be on many occasions, yet he has been curiously untroubled by Al- Queda operatives. In fact, if they have indeed read Spare, they may have concluded that the best revenge is to ignore him.