Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

NYC is filled with celebrities. David Bowie lived over the Soho branch of NYPL. He got a library card and used to browse and check out books. Everyone treated him like a regular person because in NYC we ignore celebrities. That is why people live in NYC.

Totally agree, that's the thing which makes a mockery of all their demands for "privacy" as well. They don't want privacy at all, they want to be front page news, but only with exactly the story and narrative that they've put out there.

Harry in particular seems to think it's unthinkable that his behaviour should be questioned or criticised in any way, and that it's outrageous that any news which is unfavourable to him should be printed. Although can't see any irony in him smearing the reputations of his family and anyone else around him. Apparently it's only an invasion of privacy when it's directed at him.

Even funnier is the fact that he's on some panel fighting disinformation in the media, when he and his wife are the biggest proven liars. I guess he gets around that by his justification that it's "his truth" which matters, not "so called objective facts" (which I still find mind blowing as a statement)

I've heard a few stories like this about John Barrowman, the man is a pompous arse.

My DH applied for the Wimbledon ballot for YEARS before we finally got tickets. It was a men’s semi-final on centre court, my birthday, rare adult time without baby, not to mention £££. A major treat. We would have been LIVID at being booted out of our seats for there to be an empty section. We saw Camilla in the packed Royal stand, along with other familiar faces (can’t remember exactly).

It’s delusional to clear a stand and I can’t believe that anyone at Wimbledon went along with it. I have read that Catherine and Duke of Kent personally compensated the affected seat holders but honestly, it should never have been allowed.

I imagine it's very similar in London, and for the Royals around the areas they live.

That's why I'm unsurprised there are no photos of Catherine. It's been reported she has been out and about, and the SS are doing their usual screaming about "photos or its a lie".

But around Windsor, Anmer, her parents home I imagine the locals are so used to seeing her occasionally, and will currently be very protective that no one except a tourist would take a photo. And I would assume she'll know where to go that won't really have tourists.

Hard agree with that, I'm astounded that LTA /Wimbledon allowed it to happen. Absolute peak arrogance from Meghan there, and at the time (although I was still very supportive of them as a couple) I felt it was a real foot in mouth moment from her.

It wasn't Royal behaviour, it was entitled American celeb behaviour.

When Catherine and William took their kids to St Thomas's School, no one batted an eyelid. Apparently there was a Victoria's Secret model whose child attended at the same time who got more attention. It's real easy to blend in in London. Harry and Meghan rejecting an apartment in Kensington Palace was absolute madness in my humble opinion.

I wonder what Harry has told Meghan about party politics in the UK. He's probably got that all wrong as well; and, as we know, sadly neither of them seem to be able to look things up in books or read online articles or ask other people who know a lot more about everything these matters.

Good points, @elessar - the irony of two proven liars thinking they can have any kind of media checking role! Bizarre.

Harry will have very little knowledge about the UK electoral system or party politics.
He doesn't seem to even understand the basics of the hereditary monarchy into which he was born.

Just to rephrase what I said about Harry
I think he criticised the U.K. government as “rock bottom “
I think Boris snub was at the commonwealth service

• hence I don’t think it’s that far fetched to wonder if he thinks he might get some special treatment from a Labour government after showing his animosity to the Tories

Maybe he blames the present government for his loss of security and he probably thinks Labour will help him as he has shown his hand

I’m not actually saying he will get his special treatment but he has become quite political and it would seem American politics might work this way

You could be right, @Lockupyourbiscuits .
He probably thinks that a Labour government will see them as oppressed victims, as per their continuing narrative.

Perhaps he remembers Tony Blair c.1997 when he said nice things about Diana vs the Royal Family, and hence has a rose tinted view of Labour.

The Barrowman thing reminded me of this scene from the movie Soapdish. Jump ahead to just before the 1 minute mark.

Just flipping back to politics and 'issues', I do think Harry's a political liability and always backing lame horses. Messing with the US Constitution anyone, as a titled UK royal? Nuts.

And does anyone else recall H&M (and tbf, it was as part of 'The Royal Foundation') were quite keen on Mermaids at one point at H's behest. As were a lot of MPs from across the political parties, of course. Doesn't mean they were right. Or ethical. As it transpired, quite the opposite.

Harry will absolutely need to get to grips with this scandal, not least the Cass Inquiry Report, the CEO Susie Green's departure from the post, the Charity Commission investigation, the banning of 'puberty blockers' in the UK by the govt, and the employment tribunal wins / whistle-blowing cases / GMC hearings.

The ground has shifted tectonically on this in the UK. It is not SoCal.

Meanwhile, same sex contact is banned in Nigeria.

https://www.tatler.com/article/prince-harry-shows-support-for-transgender-children

I have just listened to it via Audible. Hearing it in Harry's voice was... interesting

I have scoffed and muttered quite a bit

Btw - he hates journalists... a lot

Unless they simper to him of course!

Perhaps Harry will do something of significance soon to mark Pride Month.

(Not holding my breath though.)

If he does, that shows they're reading this thread!

Harry would sell his Granny For fame / oh wait he already did.

@LaMarschallin 😂👏😂👏😂👏

I strongly suspect that this is what Meghan believes and she has convinced Harry that’s the reality. Like so much else. Where on earth has
she got this highly inflated view of herself from?

Alistair Campbell said once on his podcast that both William and Harry hate the press because of what happened to Diana and the phone hacking but that William knows that he needs to have a good relationship with the media to publicise his causes whereas Harry is always hostile.

Is it true that the journalist who wrote the article and conducted the interview with Meghan for the Cut, lost her job because Meghan complained about her? I seem to remember a tweet from her, it said that she was going on an enforced break of undetermined length following its release. Apparently Meghan was at first very happy with it and then changed her mind because she was being mocked for how she had come across? The journalist was handpicked by Meghan to write the article.

Alison P Davis - looks like she has the Mar 2024 cover interview for The Cut so if she took a break it was temporary. Kasey Musgraves. Looks like a great interview.