Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

I think Meghan is a performer. Kate isn't and so I will agree with you on this instance.

Wow you’re defending well documented tabloid culture and its vileness.

Am I? Tabloids publish news. I’m not sure stating that is defending them

UK media is renowned the world over as the worst.

Sorry but post Levenson this is just horseshit and peddled by ‘squaddies’ when it simply isn’t true.
Given UK papers have agreed for decades now not to publish paparazzi pictures of Royals I think they’re the BEST media for the RF. H&M aren’t protected from paps in the US.

That’s the first time I have read that - it’s just awful (but not surprising).

Who, and why, would you buy into this type of egocentric spiel along with their general word salad, lies ‘creative truths’, manufactured drama, and rampant hypocrisy.

It’s a text book pattern of behaviour.

The saying ‘none so blind…..’ pops into my head quite often on this board.

That said, they are interesting and entertaining to observe (and discuss)🍿. I’d probably describe it as Real Housewives meets Eastenders.

Meghan has also dismissed the terrible press treatment Kate received in the early days by saying it wasn't racist.
Being stopped in the street and sworn at was nothing compared to what she went through, apparently.
She seems to have a curious obsession with Kate.

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You might be on to something, might explain why she repeatedly gets caught treating him with such contempt in public, elbowing him in the ribs to move out her way, quickstepping in front of him to be the first to greet, handshake, hug someone who is actually there to meet H, being his performance guide.

You might be right, it's another perspective, she just doesn't think he is up to the job.

Brilliant!!!👌

Yeah, there was nothing special about the way the media went after Meghan. They did the same to Kate and many other high profile celebrities. People often mention the appalling monkey image but that was a tweet by Danny Baker and he lost his job over it (quite rightly). A lot of the belief that she was singled out comes from not understanding the way the papers drag a celebrity into an otherwise boring story to liven it up, like Meghan and the avocados. I remember when the statement came out about defending her from racism when they were dating and thinking ‘… what?’ She wasn’t really on anyone’s radar, let alone being attacked. I do think Harry is obsessed with the media being evil and even if she’d been on every front page with an ‘isn’t she lovely’ headline he’d have construed it as harassment. Again, it’s the way they see themselves as unique that does so much harm to their happiness, in my view. No one more brilliant or hard done by exists.

Imagine being so arrogant to think that you are the first person to make a topic like this, rather than doing a search and finding the other 9 billion threads exactly like this one in the past year alone.

I remember the press calling Kate a slag to provoke a reaction

Meghan said to Oprah she got that being called “Waity Katey” must have stung, but was nothing to what she herself experienced.

In reality, that nickname was about the mildest thing Kate lived through.

As the nature of media attention had changed in the decade and more between their being in the scenes, Meghan thankfully did not have to live through the physical paparazzi harrassment at all hours of the day and night, having abuse shouted at her in public places to get a photo of her reacting, having her phone hacked more than 100 times and William’s voicemails to her listened to and published, being upskirted and having photos taken of her by photographers literally lying in the gutters, having topless photos of her published etc.

I looked back recently at the coverage of Kate back in the pre-Leveson days, which was eyebrow raising as just a small illustration of the level of press intrusion Kate had to live with then. This passage in particular stood out, covering the evening before the Memorial Concert for Diana in 2007:

”On the eve of the show, Kate left her flat in Chelsea at 9pm and arrived at Clarence House - William's London home - around midnight. Her Audi car, which she had left at a Mayfair hotel car park, was collected by an aide and driven into Clarence House, waved through by police on guard at 1.45am. Kate did not return to her London home until 4am”

Imagine being stalked for a whole decade, and all your movements recorded by the press.

I don’t think I’m the first person to make a thread on this? What gave you that impression?

Agreed. And lot of people reference the Straight Out of Compton headline like it was somehow racist or classist. But Straight Out of Compton, released in August 1988, is one of the top 3 most important hip hop albums of all time. It changed the face of rap, had an enormous influence on rock, RnB and pop, and was a trailblazer in using music to protest against the systemic and brutal racism of the police in the US. The reverberations of that album are still being felt in the music industry today.

Plus, it became a blockbuster biopic which was in cinemas at the same time that the Mail chose that headline, and was being reviewed and talked about all over the papers and TV internationally during the same time period.

So, the headline described Meghan as being Straight Out of Compton was, to anyone who knows their modern music history, a massive compliment. Like the members of NWA, Meghan came from moderate means to blaze a trail. She was being compared so some of the US's most important modern day Black musicians. That is truly a high compliment indeed.

In fact, you could only think that headline was an insult if you also think that the members of NWA, and their music, and the city they wrote the album about, is somehow embarrassing and disgusting. But I'm sure Meghan wouldn't be that snobby or classist. Would she?

The Sussex Squad won’t leave the Sussex children alone to live in peace even if that’s what they want. They will demand that the Sussex children will compete against the Wales children at every opportunity. They’ve already started it. I don’t know how Harry and Meghan can watch this and stay silent in good conscience.
A lot of the problems are possibly due to cultural differences. The Sussex Squad laughing at Nottingham Cottage and being angry at PH leaving Eton with a black bin bag (like every other student) for example. I remember them losing their minds when the press reported the Sussex’s had been driven by a black cab driver. I understand they didn’t immediately realise the cab was black not the driver but they don’t seem to want to listen when people point this out to them.

Plus all the ‘Kate is dead’ stuff on social media was absolutely vile. Imagine losing your humanity because you like Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.

That’s still going on now, along with the same vile allegations about what has gone on behind the scenes.

There is only one or two of you complaining, a minority ! The majority of posters on this thread are comfortable to continue the discussion.

Majority rules and all that !!

I can well imagine. I muted a lot of words to filter it out. I felt less of a human just reading it.

From what I’ve read, there was a prepared speech that was supposed to be delivered about the Royal Foundation but Meghan went “off script” and cut across the intended message. This explains the awkwardness all round watching the video.

I absolutely cringed when I watched that . The warning signs weren’t just signs, they were huge flashing neon billboards.

I recall the daily mail’s comment section used to be absolutely scathing of Kate. Calling her lazy, boring etc. That is until Meghan rocked up.

Yes I do read the showbiz section of the Daily Mail.

Oh my, that just screams narcissist. Cringe.

Not far-fetched at all. Check the urban dictionary.

It’s interesting that people conflate someone who is able to perform and is not afraid of speaking on a public arena with someone who is confident and intelligent. Of course, some people genuinely have these attributes, but there are many accomplished actors who are actually quite shy and reserved irl, they just have an ability to perform. Likewise there are many people who have a lot to say but little of substance, which makes them sound intelligent on first hearing. Meghan is both able to perform and likes to say a lot. Hence her cutting across the script in the Fab Four outing. When you analyse much of what she says, however, there is just a lot of words strung together with no real meaning behind them. It’s just meant to dazzle

I saw somewhere else the suggestion that Archie was shown a copy of his dad book, and that his first word(s) were in fact, "Crock o' shite".