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@JJathome exactly what I was trying to say but you worded it much better than me!

Oh I think you’re underplaying it 😄

Yes to show the ones in the country of origin how they too can be like her. Wtaf? It doesn't even make sense! Look at me. I live in the USA. I had bit parts in showbiz and I then married a white Prince. Be like me ? 😂

as opposed to all the cash for access that Charles et al have been caught doing multiple times?

Well, they're entertaining the tiny minds on here who are hanging onto their every move so they're value for money that way, at least.

This is total bollocks btw. Whoever is claiming to know Emma, evidently doesn't.

The whole ‘I’m Nigerian’ thing is a classic manoeuvre by a narc. She is whatever gets her the most attention: Californian/Maltese/Anglophile/Chef/Hot Girl/ Ingénu/ Princess/ Earth Mother/ Girl Boss.

If you watch a narc long enough you can see the trail of personality labels and relationships they scatter behind them as they search for that ever elusive adoration. Because the truth is that no amount of adoration is ever enough. Someone else always has more. And narcissists cannot deal with anyone else getting attention.

I wonder who she is behind closed doors.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar in response to my concerns that H&M may possibly being manipulated and playing into the hands of Russia and China as part of destabilising the west you mentioned mark toth. I've just read the article which confirms this. Have I got the correct link?
Https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/461318-harry-and-meghans-heart-of-darkeness

I appreciate the reasons against removing titles though previously the consensus has more had a "punishment" aspect they are now a serious liability not just to the UK but also to western nations and vulnerable Nigerians.

The visit, marked by a series of sporting engagements and heartfelt interactions, was to promote the importance of mental health awareness and support for veterans and active-duty service members. [Invictus Foundation website page on H&M in Nigeria - my added emphasis]

This worries me, this focus from Invictus on the active-duty military, at a time when Israel, Colombia and Nigeria have all joined the Invictus Foundation and two have already started competing. All three of these countries have militaries accused of, and being investigated for, long-term and large-scale abuses including extra-judicial killings of civilians.

If Invictus stops being wholly focused on veterans, and starts offering 'mental health support' (whatever that is) to active-duty soldiers involved in conflicts that are killing thousands of civilians - mosty women and children - then that radically changes the whole purpose of Invictus for me. And if that 'mental health support' is to be delivered through Better Up, for which Harry is the salaried 'Chief Impact Officer', then that is concerning on a number of levels.

I've had mental health treatment recently and I'd feel really fucking offended if Invictus was promoting e.g. 'Acceptance and Commitment' therapy to soldiers implicated in war crimes.

What the hell Johnny Mercer (the Veterans Minister), who has some moral fibre, is thinking by going along with mess I really cannot fathom.

Yes, that's the latest one. Also this one from the Jamaica visit.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4426960-harry-and-meghan-knives-out-in-jamaica/

Well exactly. 'It's ok not to be ok' doesn't quite cover 'I get nightmares and flashbacks about killing unarmed women and children' does it?

Maybe something more nuanced is needed.

I simply can’t grasp how they were there for invictus and it all became about Megan being made a princess, her Nigerian heritage, her being a self proclaimed role model, hee being a leader etc, and going to a polo match. I get the latter was so they could use it in Harry’s polo,program,,but to charge invictus for the privalge, use them as a platform and then hijack it to make it all about Megan is shameful

Well observed.

As to who she is behind closed doors... probably someone who throws herself to the floor sobbing if she is thwarted at all.

I can't decided what Harry is though. Sometimes I think sulky man-child. Other times I wonder if he walks on eggshells.

He's not the man-child , he's a very naughty boy!

I skimmed that DM article mentioned upthread, and I can only conclude that either the author is a paid up SS member or DMail is massively taking the piss. Given it is the DM I incline to the latter and a later wide-eyed defence in court of 'but look at the favourable coverage of the Nigerian trip we gave!'

I’m assuming Invictus must be pretty worried that Canada is coming round pretty quickly, and if Eurovision was anything to go by it may get heated. Invictus does have a problem in that it needs conflict to be needed and as more western countries do everything then can to avoid another Afghanistan the countries needing the support may not necessarily be in a place to host and more political interest take the place of the wounded. The number of veterans has stayed consistent despite an increase in countries.

Invictus does have a problem in that it needs conflict to be needed

For info Invictus offers support for those who are injured whilst serving….not just those injured on active service.

Sadly despite all the precautions young men and women end up injured and sometime invalided out of the Forces as a result of things such as Road Traffic Accidents, falls during training and other such accidents.

Edited to add:

https://invictusaustralia.org/daniel-coopers-journey-with-invictus/

I think she’s both insecure and an attention seeker due to it . She desperately needs validation, when at school she said she wanted to be rich and famous, that’s never left her. She plays whatever part is required at the time.

i would suspect it stems from her child hood. A mother missing in action. Likely not in with the in crowd at school. She wants to be Rich, famous, popular and loved. The centre of attention. You can see on her face in Nigeria the excitement she felt at being given that position. The fact it was contrived was irrelevant, or that it was supposed to be about invictus,again irrelevant, the need for validation and attention was critical.

i would say the last 5 years and the disaster it has been would have been mentally very hard for her.

Surely it would have been more sensible to keep membership to NATO states to avoid any potential controversy. I understand many people were uncomfortable with the protests against the Israeli competitor in Eurovision as she was a private citizen. However hosting soldiers who have fought in a war where many atrocities have been committed against civilians including children is a whole other ball game.

I wonder how far the Canadian people - First Nations and modern Canadians - can be 'curated' for the PR and photo ops of Harry and Invictus before there are protests?

This all has the making of a perfect storm combining the presence of the Israeli IDF (presumably veterans, possibly of Gaza, and active-service military delegates); representatives of big oil, energy and fossil fuel companies as sponsors of Invictus and the friends of many of the visiting dignitaries there; troubled sponsor Boeing (with fingers in pies in Nigeria of course); and some bubbling First Nations issues.

Canadian universities are already volatile and along with US universities are well able to co-ordinate protests. All of this will require detailed tactical & strategic appraisals and risk planning by Invictus and the Israelis will expect to have their own boots on the ground in Canada on that First Nations land.

And that's not even including the shitshow optics of the PR opportunities being grabbed by a number of grifters and arseholes. Oh, and there's the small matter of the intersecting accounts and expenses claims of course, and record keeping ...

And Harry's pal Johnny Mercer, to whom he has recently leaked court-sealed confidential information, won't be the Veterans Minister by the end of this year. He might not even be an MP. No help from there.

Harry admitted in "Spare" that he was uninterested in his family history. Meghan seems to make deliberate Wallis allusions, especially in her clothes, which Harry probably misses.

The DM wrote one article where they focused on the three clothing changes Meghan had made throughout the day, but mentioned a few times that Harry had worn the same clothes all day 😁

It blows my mind that Harry and Meghan have no interest in their royal ancestors going back over a thousand years, imagine having links to all the Kings and Queens over that period of time and your children now being part of that fascinating history, I just don’t get it, it really baffles me that they hold such history in disregard. What will be interesting, given time, if Archie and Lili want to discover their ‘heritage’ I would not be very happy if I was them to learn when they are adults, that they were denied any contact with their British roots let alone being part of the probably the most famous family in the world.

It blows my mind that Harry and Meghan have no interest in their royal ancestors going back over a thousand years, imagine having links to all the Kings and Queens over that period of time and your children now being part of that fascinating history, I just don’t get it, it really baffles me that they hold such history in disregard.

They'd have had to drag me out of the Royal Archives boldily if that were me. It would be a second home.

Just imagine being able to poke about in the unseen places and things most people don't get to see!!!
Wow I'd be so excited!

That of course would rule out Invictus potentially supporting and assisting any of the many Ukrainian casualties of the current conflict….

Fundamentally Invictus does good work, but if we’re into debating which causes they choose to support are righteous and which are not then maybe that’s a topic for another thread.