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To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

I reckon most Nigerians are aware that both Harry and Meghan were raised Christians in Christian-majority countries

Maybe not when you put it like that. But there are also massive privileges to being royal, privileges which Meghan could never have come close to earning on her own merits and which, as this 'tour' shows, she is still quite desperate to cling on to. It's not like she's achieved great things in the 4 years since Finding Freedom, despite all the money, wealth and prestige she gained from being royal.

All jobs and lifestyles have their good and bad points. As for 'voicing opinions' has Meghan ever voiced an articulate or original opinion on anything other than herself?

Are most Nigerians aware? I'm not sure most Nigerians even know who H&M are tbh. In any case, it's culturally completely insensitive to showcase a massive crucifix when visiting a country with a substantial Muslim population in a quasi official style. Meghan aligned herself with the 48% here. I think it's an interesting choice. Unless it's not a choice and was just thoughtless.

If you look at the cross, it appears to be upside down. I initially thought it was me viewing it incorrectly, but others have commented. She would have been better off wearing a normal cross or a locket with photos of her two children.

Indeed African History is very interesting , The Whole west African slave trade in particular is written from a single western perspective .

Africans who were brought to the US were depicted as Wild , illiterate and uncultured, but in reality a not so small percentage of them were in fact educated and could read and write , they were people with history and culture, they received traditional studies in various educational establishment in Mali , Senegal, Ghana But none of that made any difference to either the agents who captured them or to the people who bought them <sorry for the word> .

Thanks @queenofarles that's fascinating ( sorry wrong word?)
I love history but mostly ancient history but not really learnt much about this area and being from the U.K. it's not something that's spoken about often.

That would make it the cross of St Peter (he was crucified upside down). Though the internet will love that it’s these days apparently a satanic symbol!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Saint_Peter

@peanutbuttertoasty in the US, it definitely has Satanic connotations. A really bad visual.

This tour has actually really pissed me off.

They have brought Hollywood standards and rhetoric to a very different country.

In her speech in the red dress Meghan has apparently realised being a Nigerian woman means being “powerful”. I wonder if she knows that half of Nigerian girls are married off before they are adults and 16% before they’re 15. Or that gender based violence is still shockingly high, or that 6 million girls don’t go to school, or that literacy rates for adult women are only at 60%, Or that only 6% of politicians are female. Powerful my arse. These Hollywood Insta-quotes are all well and good for first world problems when all a girl needs is a bit of confidence but not in a country where women are so discriminated against on every level.

Russia and China are seeking to exert their influence in many areas of Africa, including Nigeria. They are seeking to control the natural resources of these countries, many of which are used in the tech industry. Russian have inserted their mercenary forces and perpetuated civil wars. Neither Russia or China are know for their exemplary civil rights issues and have no thought for the civilian populations. As pp have said, they seek destabilisation of western countries and to undermine democracy. The Nigerian military have direct links to Russia. Russia supplies arms to and trains the Nigerian military. As Harry is a member of the British RF, his apparent endorsement of the Nigerian military risks being used as propaganda and twisted to imply that the British RF is endorsing it also. This is why international visits are usually instigated by governments who understand the
political landscape

Whilst I agree with so much of your post one can hardly call Meghan ugly!

Thank you for these insights @smilesy its very interesting and I didn’t know this before!

Despite the anthem being played (and The Mail trolling for clicks) I don't think this has come across as a royal tour at all. It is definitely celebrity do-gooding (and I don't mean that is a negative sense) in what they are doing and how they are doing it. It's particularly clear in the speeches which are all about them rather than the peeler they are meeting. You could drop any Hollywood celebrity in these photos and they would look and sound the same. I hope the charities involved get a boost in donations.

I mean if they raise awareness and get donations in for Nigerian charities and causes then it hasn’t been a fail.
Im not convinced their ‘squaddies’ will be the ones to fork out however because there’s no opportunity to hate on Kate, which is what the squaddies are really about

I was wondering if this trip would encourage him to make the decision faster.

I hope the charities involved get a boost in donations.

It might help local charities but I can’t see it doing much for donations to the IG until there’s a bit more visibility around costs and expenses.

I mentioned way back that that the airfares alone for this jaunt must have cost somebody well into 5 figures Sterling/Dollars.

She is certainly not ugly.

But my goodness, she isn’t nearly as beautiful as the Nigerian women she is in amongst.

I daresay that would have been hotly disputed when she first became known. Even only 5years ago say.

But I’ve seen cheddar age better. She maybe wants to chum up someone for food preservative rather than whatever else she is putting on (or into?) her face.

The change is what could only be described as remarkable.

And not a complimentary remarkable either.

The term "Ugly American"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_American_(pejorative)

I wondered if she’s using Botox. Her face looks completely different, and not for the better.

Thank you bemused - every day is a school day!

I’m still one who believes you can have a pretty shell but an ugly rotten core.

And sometimes it just shines through.

Her face looks harder. Especially with the big brows. I think it’s the weight loss.

Where are you seeing the outfits please?

Thank you.

The Nigerian military have direct links to Russia. Russia supplies arms to and trains the Nigerian military. As Harry is a member of the British RF, his apparent endorsement of the Nigerian military risks being used as propaganda and twisted to imply that the British RF is endorsing it also.

This is quite shocking. I find Meghan body language incredibly affected and show-offy but maybe it's the Californian way. She just does not come across as sincere, she wants to be admired. Saying that, Victoria Beckham has a similar way of moving, acting like a super star 😂and both women have had tons of cosmetic work done. Not a look I like.

She's wearing a frock at a polo match now similar to the one she wore at the match the other week. Back to beige and backless.

I didn't know there was a term for it. It sounds quite crass but this is exactly what I mean.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_American_(pejorative)