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Is it true that there was a framed photo of Diana on the bedside table when Meghan gave birth ?

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unkake · 08/05/2024 19:50

To Archie? I have just read this for the first time as I didn't read Sparse and I found it hard to believe. Isn't that a bit weird? Can you imagine having a photo of your MIL to look at when giving birth ?

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NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 21:50

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 21:47

The thread is a developing conversation which has gone beyond the OP. And you take no account of context. What you friend’s wife did as a one off act of kindness towards her husband isn’t remotely the same as a woman who has systematically conned her husband from the beginning of their relationship that she is channelling and communicating with his long dead mother, with whom she had absolutely no relationship.

I quoted the OP in my first answer on the thread so it was very, very clear I was responding to the OP and her claim that a photo was weird.

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:01

And there have been 8 pages of posts following on from the OP giving further context to the OP’s assertion of weirdness. So, since Meghan claims to communicate with Harry’s mother, and since it was not him but her that wanted Diana’s photo at the birth, do you maintain that the situation was not weird?

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:11

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:01

And there have been 8 pages of posts following on from the OP giving further context to the OP’s assertion of weirdness. So, since Meghan claims to communicate with Harry’s mother, and since it was not him but her that wanted Diana’s photo at the birth, do you maintain that the situation was not weird?

I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what’s been said or what Meghan is meant to have done wrong. My comment was purely to the original post, which is the reason I quoted it, as it bothered me due to a friends situation. The OP said it’s weird to have a photo at the birth and my experience is that it isn’t.

No wonder this board has such a terrible reputation and so many people say they hide it. I’ll be doing the same.

StartupRepair · 09/05/2024 22:11

Even in the engagement interview, there was a mention of Diana and Megan said very firmly, 'oh she's here with us'. I found that very jarring at the time.

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:15

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:11

I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what’s been said or what Meghan is meant to have done wrong. My comment was purely to the original post, which is the reason I quoted it, as it bothered me due to a friends situation. The OP said it’s weird to have a photo at the birth and my experience is that it isn’t.

No wonder this board has such a terrible reputation and so many people say they hide it. I’ll be doing the same.

Very wise. If you only respond to the very first post on every thread, you might end up looking foolish.

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:15

And OP hasn’t been back so I think her OP was meant to be goady. How sad. It appears to have given you all something to do though if you’ve filled 8 pages with ‘further context’, which I presume is snarky comments and digs. 🙄

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:20

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:15

And OP hasn’t been back so I think her OP was meant to be goady. How sad. It appears to have given you all something to do though if you’ve filled 8 pages with ‘further context’, which I presume is snarky comments and digs. 🙄

Comments from Harry and Meghan’s own source material, yes. I’m glad you have had something to do by adding in comments about your friend. He must be happy to be an anecdote on a board you don’t like and yet still post on.

NotAgainWilson · 09/05/2024 22:20

I don't know... but if I was a man, I would hate my dead mother conspiring with my wife to have me do as they please. In the words of Diana, it is is a bit crowded.

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:20

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:15

Very wise. If you only respond to the very first post on every thread, you might end up looking foolish.

Less foolish than the posters, who even mumsnet’s owner calls deranged, commenting negatively about Meghan/Harry constantly and obsessively. The truth is no one is welcome on this board unless they join in with the Meghan bashing. I only commented as I found the OP offensive due to a friends experience. You are not the gatekeeper of this board or the thread police as much as you may like to be.

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 22:21

Overtheatlantic · 09/05/2024 20:05

Harry has just returned to honour the Invictus Games anniversary so this smear is on point. Too bad for the haters and those who read the DM that he’s happy, successful and much beloved.

How many cliches can you get into one post?!

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 22:22

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:11

I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what’s been said or what Meghan is meant to have done wrong. My comment was purely to the original post, which is the reason I quoted it, as it bothered me due to a friends situation. The OP said it’s weird to have a photo at the birth and my experience is that it isn’t.

No wonder this board has such a terrible reputation and so many people say they hide it. I’ll be doing the same.

Miss ya!

NotAgainWilson · 09/05/2024 22:24

Overtheatlantic · 09/05/2024 20:05

Harry has just returned to honour the Invictus Games anniversary so this smear is on point. Too bad for the haters and those who read the DM that he’s happy, successful and much beloved.

Happy? Have you ever seen videos of him before he married Meghan? He was a happy go lucky fool having a lot of fun. Now he is just a miserable paranoid fool.

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 22:26

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:11

I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what’s been said or what Meghan is meant to have done wrong. My comment was purely to the original post, which is the reason I quoted it, as it bothered me due to a friends situation. The OP said it’s weird to have a photo at the birth and my experience is that it isn’t.

No wonder this board has such a terrible reputation and so many people say they hide it. I’ll be doing the same.

But just out of curiosity, putting Meghan/Harry totally aside, in response to the first post just re: any regular couple... It IS a bit weird isn't it, if you hadn't met the MIL? I would definitely do it out of love for my husband, but I'd still secretly feel a bit weird essentially exposing my vagina in front of a portrait of a dead woman I had never met.

Kimmeridge · 09/05/2024 22:28

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 20:08

No need to read the DM.
You can get a full picture of his personality and behaviour in everything he has written and spoken of in the last 4 years. If that's a happy and successful life, I'd hate to see one which isn't.

A happy & successful life? Its true you can get a full picture of him in his books & interviews. He's bitter, nasty & everything they've touched in the US since leaving the RF has turned to shit. He looks bloody miserable all the time.

If that's happy & successful you can keep it

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 09/05/2024 22:31

NoSmallThing · 09/05/2024 22:20

Less foolish than the posters, who even mumsnet’s owner calls deranged, commenting negatively about Meghan/Harry constantly and obsessively. The truth is no one is welcome on this board unless they join in with the Meghan bashing. I only commented as I found the OP offensive due to a friends experience. You are not the gatekeeper of this board or the thread police as much as you may like to be.

And yet you are here and you seem to know who is posting “obsessively”. So you must be reading obsessively. How could you have missed the gazillion still standing hate threads against Catherine and William a few weeks ago if you think this board does not welcome H&M supporters? Maybe you read what you want to read into these threads.

I’m neither gate keeping nor policing. Merely pointing out that not bothering to RTFT is foolish - and that applies to any thread on any board. You can post what you want to. You can’t expect what you post to go unchallenged though if other posters disagree. Just like you have challenged the OP.

smilesy · 09/05/2024 22:40

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 22:26

But just out of curiosity, putting Meghan/Harry totally aside, in response to the first post just re: any regular couple... It IS a bit weird isn't it, if you hadn't met the MIL? I would definitely do it out of love for my husband, but I'd still secretly feel a bit weird essentially exposing my vagina in front of a portrait of a dead woman I had never met.

I am also wondering why a man needs “comfort” from a picture of his dead mother whilst his wife gives birth. I can understand maybe the wife wanting a picture of her own departed mother, but why exactly would Harry need comforting? Particularly as he was guzzling the entonox 🤪

Enko · 10/05/2024 07:29

@smilesy there is research out there suggesting some men finds the birth experience traumatic. Idk if Harry did I'd say Spare (that I have read) suggests he didn't.

I've given birth 4 times in the last 3 birth prep boxes we included stuff for my dh to be comfortable too. My first birth was many hours long and we felt that he should also feel comfortable (second birth was then 7 hours from start to finish so he never needed any 😀) but he did use some of it for no 3 and 4.

It's one of those just because you don't want to go there doesn't mean others do not.

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 07:35

I think he got comfort from all the entonox.

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 10/05/2024 07:38

God, if I was married to someone who wanted me to think about his comfort levels while I am the one giving birth, I’d be rethinking the relationship. So glad I am am not married to someone so pathetic.

AliceOlive · 10/05/2024 12:54

The thing I find most notable is their willingness to share such private details. It makes appear that they did many of these things only in order to share them with the world. Both give the impression that they think they are absolutely fascinating.

smilesy · 10/05/2024 13:01

Enko · 10/05/2024 07:29

@smilesy there is research out there suggesting some men finds the birth experience traumatic. Idk if Harry did I'd say Spare (that I have read) suggests he didn't.

I've given birth 4 times in the last 3 birth prep boxes we included stuff for my dh to be comfortable too. My first birth was many hours long and we felt that he should also feel comfortable (second birth was then 7 hours from start to finish so he never needed any 😀) but he did use some of it for no 3 and 4.

It's one of those just because you don't want to go there doesn't mean others do not.

I’m still not buying the fact that having a picture of Diana there was for Harry’s comfort. I don’t think he said that was the case. It’s more that it goes with having Diana’s photo next to the pee stick etc. it’s performative. I agree that husbands should be comfortable too, but as @IsoldeWagner and I said previously, Harry found comfort in the entonox

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 16:48

It's that weird Diana cosplay that Meghan's got going on. Everything is so performative and insincere.

Runnerinthenight · 10/05/2024 17:13

smilesy · 10/05/2024 13:01

I’m still not buying the fact that having a picture of Diana there was for Harry’s comfort. I don’t think he said that was the case. It’s more that it goes with having Diana’s photo next to the pee stick etc. it’s performative. I agree that husbands should be comfortable too, but as @IsoldeWagner and I said previously, Harry found comfort in the entonox

I don't think it would have entered his tiny little mind tbh. I would not want to have baby-making sex next to my late mother/mil's hair! WTAF?!

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 17:14

God. That is really strange.

AnnieSF · 11/05/2024 04:37

AliceOlive · 10/05/2024 12:54

The thing I find most notable is their willingness to share such private details. It makes appear that they did many of these things only in order to share them with the world. Both give the impression that they think they are absolutely fascinating.

Have to agree - we all do silly little things but most people keep them to themselves. I have no idea what possesses someone who WANTS THEIR PRIVACY to reveal such personal matters! I think delusion has a large role to play in it all.

Is it true that there was a framed photo of Diana on the bedside table when Meghan gave birth ?