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Is it true that there was a framed photo of Diana on the bedside table when Meghan gave birth ?

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unkake · 08/05/2024 19:50

To Archie? I have just read this for the first time as I didn't read Sparse and I found it hard to believe. Isn't that a bit weird? Can you imagine having a photo of your MIL to look at when giving birth ?

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upinaballoon · 09/05/2024 12:24

Ohpleeeease · 09/05/2024 10:23

There would be no Montecito and no Meghan. People sentimentalise Diana but she was shrewd. She would have intervened before Harry got too carried away.

......and Harry would be a bachelor because no woman wanted to stay when they worked out what the life would be, unless he acted fairly quickly, which he did in Meghan's case.

Tabitha005 · 09/05/2024 13:05

Saschka · 08/05/2024 23:57

You kind of hope all of that is made up, or they are both quite bonkers. But then why make up a story that makes your wife sound completely deranged? That book was so ill-judged.

These are the kind of family stories my family tell at Christmas, to laugh about. “Do you remember that time we caught Aunty Meghan clutching granny’s gravestone and begging for guidance? Was she drunk? She must have been, she’d never even met her”. Fuck knows what possessed Harry to put it all in a book.

Money. Money was what possessed Harry to put it all in a book. Well, maybe that and the fact that 99.99999% of Hollywood actors are fucken mental and self-obsessed and a bit of that must, eventually, rub off on whoever they end up with.

Tlolljs · 09/05/2024 13:23

Harry obviously has trauma from his mother’s death. I’d be surprised if he hadn’t. But the idea that Meghan can channel her and talk to her in some way is repulsive. She’s a fucking grifter all right.

smilesy · 09/05/2024 13:28

I think all this channelling Diana on Meghan’s behalf is simply an attempt to coat-tail on Diana’s quasi saint like status and her popularity. Nothing to do with mothering Harry or wanting to comfort him. Just trying to prove that she is like Diana and has a “special connection” to her

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 13:41

smilesy · 09/05/2024 13:28

I think all this channelling Diana on Meghan’s behalf is simply an attempt to coat-tail on Diana’s quasi saint like status and her popularity. Nothing to do with mothering Harry or wanting to comfort him. Just trying to prove that she is like Diana and has a “special connection” to her

And that she has the Diana Stamp of Approval ( even if she might not have a Royal Warrant!)

Truthfully, I don’t know what motivates Meghan exactly because I don’t read any of their publications; but I do have some sympathy in that I think she has waded in to water that was deeper than she realised and isn’t quite sure how to stay afloat.

willWillSmithsmith · 09/05/2024 14:46

Calliopespa · 09/05/2024 13:41

And that she has the Diana Stamp of Approval ( even if she might not have a Royal Warrant!)

Truthfully, I don’t know what motivates Meghan exactly because I don’t read any of their publications; but I do have some sympathy in that I think she has waded in to water that was deeper than she realised and isn’t quite sure how to stay afloat.

It could have all been so different. I don’t really understand why they didn’t just leave and carve out a good life for themselves without all the sniping and drama. I’m sure people would have been interested in what they were doing and they would have had an open door to any royal event they wanted to attend. They could have had their cake and eaten it (freedom and good royal links). It’s so odd to me the route they did choose.

AnnieSF · 09/05/2024 15:15

Tlolljs · 09/05/2024 13:23

Harry obviously has trauma from his mother’s death. I’d be surprised if he hadn’t. But the idea that Meghan can channel her and talk to her in some way is repulsive. She’s a fucking grifter all right.

It's actually ludicrous and he has been sucked right into it.

Ohpleeeease · 09/05/2024 15:25

upinaballoon · 09/05/2024 12:24

......and Harry would be a bachelor because no woman wanted to stay when they worked out what the life would be, unless he acted fairly quickly, which he did in Meghan's case.

I’m not quite as pessimistic about his chances of settling down with someone else. I think there would have been someone willing and able to adapt to the life on offer. The trouble is, they didn’t seem to come into Harry’s orbit.

Ooof · 09/05/2024 15:51

I think it goes to show that certain aspects of life should remain private. When you do a tell all book, people will naturally judge what’s in it.
Love or hate them, if they keep spilling beans on intimate details, the public will have an opinion.

Saschka · 09/05/2024 16:05

Tabitha005 · 09/05/2024 13:05

Money. Money was what possessed Harry to put it all in a book. Well, maybe that and the fact that 99.99999% of Hollywood actors are fucken mental and self-obsessed and a bit of that must, eventually, rub off on whoever they end up with.

The book would have sold well without the humiliating anecdotes. He was badly advised.

willWillSmithsmith · 09/05/2024 16:35

Whether you’re a fan or not, no sane person on the planet would believe that Diana has been in contact with Meghan, no one. The whole thing is bizarre and an almighty con. Meghan must laugh herself stupid most days at how easy Harry makes it for her.

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 17:08

Ohpleeeease · 09/05/2024 10:23

There would be no Montecito and no Meghan. People sentimentalise Diana but she was shrewd. She would have intervened before Harry got too carried away.

I know this sounds harsh but I don't think Harry and Diana would have had a good relationship if she had lived.

She's painted as having the personality of a saint in death, and was indeed hard done by (eg by Charles and Royals) in life... But objectively both Diana and Harry – in fact Diana moreso than Harry in terms of extreme behaviour eg raging and physical tantrums at Charles and palace staff – had/have pretty volatile personalities and a fair share of relationship issues. Obviously a lot outside their control, but lots also self inflicted and extreme. She also wasn't a huge fan of her kids esp the youngest.

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 17:11

Tabitha005 · 09/05/2024 13:05

Money. Money was what possessed Harry to put it all in a book. Well, maybe that and the fact that 99.99999% of Hollywood actors are fucken mental and self-obsessed and a bit of that must, eventually, rub off on whoever they end up with.

I really don't think it was just money. I think Harry just really doesn't realise how abnormal and devoid of boundaries it all is. He probably thinks he's having a self aware jolly laugh at himself, or telling a relatable story about grief

Blahdeblah12345 · 09/05/2024 17:18

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 17:08

I know this sounds harsh but I don't think Harry and Diana would have had a good relationship if she had lived.

She's painted as having the personality of a saint in death, and was indeed hard done by (eg by Charles and Royals) in life... But objectively both Diana and Harry – in fact Diana moreso than Harry in terms of extreme behaviour eg raging and physical tantrums at Charles and palace staff – had/have pretty volatile personalities and a fair share of relationship issues. Obviously a lot outside their control, but lots also self inflicted and extreme. She also wasn't a huge fan of her kids esp the youngest.

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Everyone glosses over the fact that she hasn't even seen her kids in months before her death. She was too busy holidaying with her new boyfriend. A saint indeed

Runnerinthenight · 09/05/2024 17:19

Blahdeblah12345 · 09/05/2024 17:18

Everyone glosses over the fact that she hasn't even seen her kids in months before her death. She was too busy holidaying with her new boyfriend. A saint indeed

Yes, I said on I think it was another thread that I really have to wonder how much time she actually did spend with the boys, who would obviously have split their time between Diana and Charles, plus they were at boarding school.

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 17:29

Diana spent most of that summer holidaying with her boyfriend. She hardly saw her sons. She came in for a lot of criticism in the press.

User14March · 09/05/2024 18:09

@IsoldeWagner how long had she been away from boys?

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 18:12

A month before she died. They were due to meet up on Aug 31st.

NotAgainWilson · 09/05/2024 18:20

User14March · 08/05/2024 23:49

@NotAgainWilson I would understand if H wanted Diana to be present in some context re: the photo but he says it all came from M. Poss she thought a nice gesture etc but you could see it as being a bit theatrical as she never knew her or had her in her life.

I saw a programme where they covered a lot of the comments and actions of Meghan which makes her look like she is properly manipulating a man who has never been considered as intelligent. I guess she is milking his traumas about Diana big time, from requesting privacy from him to spend some time on her own at Diana's grave (Honestly, can anyone interrupt or overhear a conversation with a grave???) down to wearing exactly the same perfume Diana used on the first dates with Harry. He has said that Meghan and Diana are sooo similar, which leads me to think that if Diana had had more time, she would have probably ended disgracing herself in the same way Harry has.

SpringLobelia · 09/05/2024 18:20

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 17:29

Diana spent most of that summer holidaying with her boyfriend. She hardly saw her sons. She came in for a lot of criticism in the press.

It's perfectly normal for holidays to be carved up according to whose parental turn it is- often by the courts.

Of all the things to criticise Diana for, that is not one of them.

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 18:22

SpringLobelia · 09/05/2024 18:20

It's perfectly normal for holidays to be carved up according to whose parental turn it is- often by the courts.

Of all the things to criticise Diana for, that is not one of them.

No it's not "perfectly normal" for a parent to holiday over the summer and not see their sons for a month.
Especially when they're at boarding school.
Not good parenting.
Yes, I do criticise Diana for it.
She was a multimillionaire and could have made more time for them.

SpringLobelia · 09/05/2024 18:24

There was designated time with mum and time with dad.

That;s how it goes when custody arrangements are drawn up. Alternate Christmases for example. Christ I've drawn up enough in my time.

KnickerlessParsons · 09/05/2024 18:41

Whats weird 🤔 about wanting photos of lost close family members and aswell ones photos being by the side of you whilst you give birth or just have done...

Seriously?

Blahdeblah12345 · 09/05/2024 18:42

NotAgainWilson · 09/05/2024 18:20

I saw a programme where they covered a lot of the comments and actions of Meghan which makes her look like she is properly manipulating a man who has never been considered as intelligent. I guess she is milking his traumas about Diana big time, from requesting privacy from him to spend some time on her own at Diana's grave (Honestly, can anyone interrupt or overhear a conversation with a grave???) down to wearing exactly the same perfume Diana used on the first dates with Harry. He has said that Meghan and Diana are sooo similar, which leads me to think that if Diana had had more time, she would have probably ended disgracing herself in the same way Harry has.

Imagine how it feels for William for Harry and Meghan to be appropriating Diana's memory like that. She was his mother too after all but you'd swear Harry was an only child the way he goes on. Its weird

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 18:48

I know. It's another level of cruelty to William, isn't it?
Meghan is "channeling" his late mother but will have nothing to do with him?
Absolutely awful behaviour.