Nigeria?

[MaturingCheeseball]

Can this be true? That Harry and Meghan are off on a “royal” trip to Nigeria? What’s the game now? My head is spinning!

@NoisySnail You could also argue that the healthy son could have arrived a few days before his Invictus obligations and spent some time with his 75-year-old father who’s recovering from cancer. I suspect that Harry’s schedule is far less packed than Charles’s-why hasn’t he made time to see him?

My suspicion is that he isn’t really that bothered about seeing Charles at all.

@BruFord Then why did Charles not offer a time the day before? He just said he was too busy.
And lets face it, Charles could have had a quick catch up with Harry.

@BruFord Just to add, you say he could have spent some time with Charles. When Harry flew over before to see Charles, Charles gave him less than half an hour. Charles does not want to spend much time if any time with Harry his son.
Harry did have other family at the Invictus service supporting him though.

@NoisySnail I imagine that Charles’s schedule is put together by his staff, typically weeks/months in advance,. Things were upended by his cancer treatment, now they’re trying to do as many appointments as possible.

Harry doesn’t have that type of schedule, he could contact his father’s secretary and visit when Charles is less busy. He’s not constrained by annual leave or money like the rest of us. But he clearly doesn’t want to, and that’s fine.

Possibly because he now realises what a PITA Harry is and that nothing will satisfy him?

Ok, so even after all Harry's invasions of privacy, the wild claims and the monetised deception, supposing Charles had agreed to meet him. Then what? Whatever C said and did would be open to misrepresentation on the part of Harry. He would, at some point, share the "conversation" - for his own benefit. Maybe he wants money and/or a property in the UK- how mean his Pa is to say no! Or maybe - more damagingly, he'll tell everyone something Charles said about Nigeria, which he can use for his own purpose.
It's sad, but if Harry has chosen this path in life, he can't expect to reset it when it suits him.

Harry did have other family at the Invictus service supporting him though.

Supporting Harry or Invictus?

I’d wager the latter.

I think it was really vindictive (as usual) of the Sussex lot to release a statement saying the King was 'too busy' to see Harry. It's all part of his 'poor little me' routine. He could presumably arrange to see his father at any time convenient to the king, given his lack of a proper job and financial ability to buy a plane ticket. He's a horror.

@NoisySnail
The king is the head of state. He has cancer and has recently undergone treatment. He is trying to catch up with his duties and return to his prebooked schedule. Harry doesn’t have a job. It is for him to fit in with his father’s plans. Not the other way round. Had he wanted to see his father, he should have asked well in advance. Not expect to be accommodated just because.

I think things would calm down a lot more quickly and there would be a better chance for the family to heal, if the Sussexes would learn that just because the press say something it doesn't mean you have to respond to it.

The Royal family ignored all the speculation but Harry had to comment, then the press speculate about his comment and the cycle continues.

He's like someone who can't resist throwing the ball back, even though he doesn't want to play catch. Just put the ball down and the game ends.

Yes, but they need and crave the press, @MrsLeonFarrell . They want the clicks, the pictures and the headlines. Otherwise, what are they?

If you publish a tell all about your family, don't play the victim if your family keeps their distance in future.

Do H&M go everywhere now with a Netflix crew? such a weird life.

I just read it as a factual comment, the king is busy. He is busy, he had his garden party and there would of been lots of briefings etc before and afterwards something else. 🤔 if the king had no engagements on then sure I could see why it would come across vindictive but he wasn't.

I'm not sure if it's that. I see it more as the difference between celebrity culture and the Royal family. Celebrities need the attention to build status but the Royal family tend to want publicity for their causes rather than themselves.

There was a phrase about the King's priorities which could be seen as goady, if that is what you were looking for. Let's face it The Mail are always looking for it!

There was no need to say the King was too busy to see H.

It was clear he had engagements.

There was no need to announce anything at all. Unless of course it is to add to a victim narrative.

If Harry was known for making factual statements, then possibly, or if he was known for making statements to answer media interest, then possibly,

But in Harry's case, neither of those are true, so it seems it was actually another passive aggressive twist of the knife against his own father.

I can’t help thinking if Harry was so keen to see Charles for any meaningful conversation he would have extended his stay beyond three days to create more opportunities for them to meet. I applaud Charles for holding the line actually, but I don’t think he’s the only one responsible for the continued estrangement.

When Harry arrived to see Charles, he did so pretty much unannounced Charles had just received some treatment and he was scheduled to travel to Sandringham by helicopter. Charles is not an autocrat who can demand that all plans are changed for him. Harry on the other hand was able to come over at the drop of a hat, which rather suggests he does not have a packed schedule. Why didn’t he wait until the king was at Sandringham and join him there? Why hasn’t he brought his family over to see his father on a proper visit?

I read it as factual. The King's got something on and so has Harry. Maybe to avoid the - will they won't they meet up headlines they usually get. It's basically stating everyone's busy.

Quite. Harry was clearly playing to his gallery in releasing his statement. Which, if he had a genuine motive for wanting to meet with his father, doesn’t do him any favours.

The King had meetings in the morning ( Ambassadors I think) then the Garden Party followed by his regular meeting with the PM then a Privy Council meeting . Quite a busy day for a 75 year old undergoing cancer treatment .
I am not sure we have had the correct version about this proposed meeting as according to a couple of Royal Correspondents , Harry had stipulated that he wanted to see his father on his own and this was refused. Wonder why ?
I don’t blame the RF avoiding Harry . He ( and his wife) have been incredibly spiteful during the last few years especially towards William , Catherine and Camilla . Plus - he has a Netflix crew in tow . The cynic in me thinks he just wanted titbits for his next moanfest.

They are very selective about what they respond to ( or rather their spokesperson 🤦‍♀️). I am sure he has been asked lots of times about the racism claims, Endgame , African Parks etc but i don’t recall their spokesperson making any statements.

I expect the King didn’t want to meet Harry because everything he said will be reported back in some chat show or other.
Funny how Harry isn’t safe here but has no qualms about going to Nigeria. Such a twat.